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BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 04:00 PM Sep 2022

Trump team claimed boxes at Mar-a-Lago were only news clippings

Source: Washington Post

Months before National Archives officials found hundreds of classified documents they retrieved from former president Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club, they were told that none of the material was sensitive or classified and that Trump only had 12 boxes of “news clippings,” according to people familiar with the conversations between Trump’s team and the Archives. During a September 2021 phone call with top Archives lawyer Gary Stern, Trump lawyer Pat Philbin offered reassuring news: Philbin said he had talked with former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, who made the assertion about the dozen boxes of clippings, the people familiar with the call said.

Trump’s team was aware of no other materials, Philbin said, relaying information he said he got from Meadows. The characterization made in the call vastly misrepresented the scale and variety of documents, including classified records, eventually recovered by the Archives or the FBI. Philbin said that Meadows also told him no documents had been destroyed, according to two people with knowledge of the call and a third person with knowledge of Stern’s contemporaneous account of the call. These and other people spoke on the condition of anonymity to disclose internal details.

Stern had sought the call because he believed there were still more than two dozen boxes of materials that Trump had, and he also had concerns about whether digital records had been properly retained, according to a person with knowledge of the situation. Archives top officials continued to believe there was more material than they were being told about, according to people familiar with their thinking. A spokeswoman for Philbin declined to comment. A lawyer for Meadows declined to comment, and a spokesman for Meadows did not respond to calls seeking comment. A person close to Philbin said he was unaware of the contents of the boxes and did not know there was classified material in them.

In the year since the call, Archives and Justice Department officials have recovered 42 boxes of records from Trump’s Palm Beach, Fla., property, including 15 boxes handed over by Trump’s representatives to the Archives last January and another 27 boxes retrieved by the FBI during a court-authorized search of Mar-a-Lago in August.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/16/trump-records-archives-clippings/



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Trump team claimed boxes at Mar-a-Lago were only news clippings (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 2022 OP
Oh oh oh, you mean THIS cookie jar that my hand is in underpants Sep 2022 #1
They literally must think the rest of the world is as stupid as his maggot cult!!! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2022 #2
Well, to be fair, they aren't entirely wrong... Shipwack Sep 2022 #27
All excellent points!!!! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2022 #28
Of course, his staff would know he was lying viva la Sep 2022 #3
The number of different stories is getting long LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #4
And yet a federal judge doesn't trust the veritability of the DOJ as compared to Trump Mr. Ected Sep 2022 #5
Why does it feel like we're drowning in horse shit? calimary Sep 2022 #6
That's exactly what it is. Evolve Dammit Sep 2022 #17
And Judge Aileen says, "You can grab me anytime!" dalton99a Sep 2022 #7
The FBI planted secretly declassified news clippings KentuckyWoman Sep 2022 #8
In my life as an intelligence analyst I handled a LOT of news clippings jmowreader Sep 2022 #9
Okay then if you say trump lied to you then you get to testify against him or go to jail too. ZonkerHarris Sep 2022 #10
It was Barron's homework. That's next. twodogsbarking Sep 2022 #11
Okay its time to just go into the rat infested place and frog march this guy out...... turbinetree Sep 2022 #12
Oh, he's changing his story yet again? EnergizedLib Sep 2022 #13
"The dog ate my clippings." truthisfreedom Sep 2022 #14
Keep digging, motherfuckers. Novara Sep 2022 #15
There is just no excuse. EndlessWire Sep 2022 #16
MAGAT LARDO should have been stripped to the wall studs to find everything this MF stole and hid. Evolve Dammit Sep 2022 #18
The reality is that many of the highly classified docs were likely scanned, copied,thumb-drived and Evolve Dammit Sep 2022 #21
If you don't think there were/are foreign agents on the cleaning/housekeeping/landscaping crews at COL Mustard Sep 2022 #35
How can you "de-classify" news clippings? no_hypocrisy Sep 2022 #19
I have been saying, Mark Meadows is the key, gab13by13 Sep 2022 #20
Gitmo works for me. He and Orange Chosen One are Enemies of the State, pure and simple. nt Evolve Dammit Sep 2022 #22
And if you believe that, I have this (Trump) Tower to sell you ... ificandream Sep 2022 #23
Up next: Trump claims boxes full of grass clippings grantcart Sep 2022 #24
Will. Someone. Please. Have. The. Courage. To. Lock Him Up! NewHendoLib Sep 2022 #25
No shit -- c'mon already! What kind of precedent are they trying to set??? Blue Owl Sep 2022 #29
No shit!! Tired of everyday on the news being told how ILLEGAL ALL of Trumps Bengus81 Sep 2022 #36
Gee, and I completely forgot Turbineguy Sep 2022 #26
boxes were only nail clippings... sprinkleeninow Sep 2022 #30
And coupons, don't forget the coupons Blue Owl Sep 2022 #31
A narcissist will say whatever protects their ego, and believe it 100% NullTuples Sep 2022 #32
There. Is. Always. An. Excuse. With. These. Clowns. Always. Initech Sep 2022 #33
Have the authorities checked Bedminster? COL Mustard Sep 2022 #34
They would probably need an informant BumRushDaShow Sep 2022 #38
I'm with you COL Mustard Sep 2022 #40
What's next is Trump blaming his legal team for making that statement Bengus81 Sep 2022 #37
He wants us to believe he reads? Beartracks Sep 2022 #39
Not Reading the Article Roy Rolling Sep 2022 #41
Well the spectacle of reading about people throwing other people under the bus BumRushDaShow Sep 2022 #42
What About The Boxes DallasNE Sep 2022 #43

Shipwack

(2,158 posts)
27. Well, to be fair, they aren't entirely wrong...
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 07:18 PM
Sep 2022

Maybe they thought everyone was stupid, maybe they were counting on everyone being too spineless to aggressively persecute, maybe they were just playing for time. The fact of the matter is they did get away with it, and may still be getting away with it... IMHO there are still documents if not at Mar a Lago, then at other properties. I worry that some may have already been digitized and/or already given to other countries.

It took way too long to search Mar a Lago... It is taking way to long to search his other properties, as well as his phone and his associates phones. My hope is that they haven't waited... that they searched other places, and the reason the public doesn't talk about it is because it's been kept quiet, even by Trump (as unlikely as it is for him to keep his big mouth shut). Maybe his communications have been compromised for months, negating the need to move quickly because they know exactly what he's up to.

viva la

(3,273 posts)
3. Of course, his staff would know he was lying
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 04:09 PM
Sep 2022

But as always, they preferred to pretend.
We have utter contempt for them.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
5. And yet a federal judge doesn't trust the veritability of the DOJ as compared to Trump
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 04:13 PM
Sep 2022

Any lucid judge that makes such a determination is obviously part of the cover up.

jmowreader

(50,531 posts)
9. In my life as an intelligence analyst I handled a LOT of news clippings
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 04:43 PM
Sep 2022

I never saw one that was anything higher than Unclassified. Even if we were clipping articles out of Izvestia, the official newspaper of the Soviet government, or Neues Deutschland, the official newspaper of the East German government, they were unclassified. ("But where would you get such a thing?" You know they had newspaper dealers in Berlin. You could get papers from all over in Berlin.

The fact that Trump had so much SCI in his broom closet they had to rent a forklift to move it all puts the lie to his team's claims that the information he had was just news clippings.

turbinetree

(24,685 posts)
12. Okay its time to just go into the rat infested place and frog march this guy out......
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 04:59 PM
Sep 2022

anyone else that had documents that were stolen from the government, with I don't know TOP SECRET stamped on them would be right now be given our rights to an attorney and such and would be in jail charged and waiting for trial.....no bond.....passport taken away.......take the keys from the jets.....enough is enough....

EndlessWire

(6,460 posts)
16. There is just no excuse.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 05:52 PM
Sep 2022

None at all. The only wiggle room he has is a plea bargain. And, at this point, most people want his ass in prison. It is extremely important to see that no one person is above the law. He still thinks that he can maneuver around the truth and get away with espionage. It is surprising how many high profile people are supporting him, for money, power and position, but never to support our Democracy.

Evolve Dammit

(16,702 posts)
18. MAGAT LARDO should have been stripped to the wall studs to find everything this MF stole and hid.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 06:00 PM
Sep 2022

Then on to Bedminster. He is a threat to the US security and a traitor. LOCK HIM UP.

Evolve Dammit

(16,702 posts)
21. The reality is that many of the highly classified docs were likely scanned, copied,thumb-drived and
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 06:06 PM
Sep 2022

distributed to anyone willing to PAY. That's who he is. And you can bet he retained the most sensitive as "insurance" against prosecution.

COL Mustard

(5,871 posts)
35. If you don't think there were/are foreign agents on the cleaning/housekeeping/landscaping crews at
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 03:03 PM
Sep 2022

At MAL, come talk to me about this bridge I own. I'll sell it to you for cheap! Oh, and I have some oceanfront property right outside of Phoenix that can be YOURS for just a song!

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
20. I have been saying, Mark Meadows is the key,
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 06:01 PM
Sep 2022

put the squeeze on him. Yet I hear that DOJ will not bring Meadows before a grand jury until after the election. National security be damned.

NewHendoLib

(60,008 posts)
25. Will. Someone. Please. Have. The. Courage. To. Lock Him Up!
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 06:49 PM
Sep 2022

He's sucked enough attention out of the world for several lifetimes.

He's a piece of dogshit. Not worthy of a microsecond of attention

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
36. No shit!! Tired of everyday on the news being told how ILLEGAL ALL of Trumps
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 03:16 PM
Sep 2022

actions are yet he's been charged with NOTHING.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
32. A narcissist will say whatever protects their ego, and believe it 100%
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 02:34 PM
Sep 2022

And I'm guessing that since the judge ruled he gets the original documents back without the DoJ getting copies, he thinks he can simply declare what the documents are/were and nobody can challenge him.

COL Mustard

(5,871 posts)
34. Have the authorities checked Bedminster?
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 03:01 PM
Sep 2022

How about the country club outside DC? Or any other of Orange Man's properties?

Let's get cracking, fellas!

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
38. They would probably need an informant
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 03:20 PM
Sep 2022

who could give them enough details to list what to look for and where at those propertie, for a search warrant (which is how they were able to get as explicit as they did for MAL). I expect in the meantime, they might (if they haven't already and it hasn't been revealed "publicly" ) issue a subpoena for "anything" located at those other properties and see what happens (we know what would probably happen but they would have to go through the steps anyway).

COL Mustard

(5,871 posts)
40. I'm with you
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 04:59 PM
Sep 2022

I want him in prison in the worst way, but I want it to be 100% legal.

What’s the saying again? Something about Lock him up!

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
37. What's next is Trump blaming his legal team for making that statement
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 03:17 PM
Sep 2022

when it's of course proven to be bullshit.

Roy Rolling

(6,908 posts)
41. Not Reading the Article
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 07:24 PM
Sep 2022

I’m happy to read BumRushDaShow.

But the WP lost me at “Trump team claimed…”

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
43. What About The Boxes
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 08:00 AM
Sep 2022

Shown in photographs shown being loaded in Florida for a trip to Bedminister NJ for a Trump fundraiser costing $250,000 per couple in May 2021? To my knowledge those boxes have never been accounted for.

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