Mon Sep 26, 2022, 06:55 PM
Jenny von Westphalen (89 posts)
Sen. Sinema defends bipartisanship at McConnell Center
Source: Associated Press
Sinema plays an outsized role in defining what’s possible in Congress. One of two moderate Democrats in the 50-50 Senate, her willingness to buck the rest of her party has limited the ambitions of President Joe Biden and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. She is a staunch defender of the filibuster, a Senate rule effectively requiring 60 votes to pass most legislation in the 100-member body. Many Democrats, including Biden, say the filibuster leads to gridlock by giving a minority of lawmakers the ability to veto. She said the filibuster should be restored for areas where it’s been eliminated, such as judicial confirmations. “Those of you who are parents in the room know, the best thing you can do for your child is not give them everything they want,” Sinema said. “And that’s important to the United States Senate as well. We shouldn’t get everything we want in the moment. Because later, upon cooler reflection, you recognize that has probably gone too far.” Read more: https://apnews.com/article/arizona-kentucky-mitch-mcconnell-kyrsten-sinema-5ad2752a337b3586b1638277750e79f8
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Jenny von Westphalen | Sep 2022 | OP |
Walleye | Sep 2022 | #1 | |
Botany | Sep 2022 | #2 | |
LiberalFighter | Sep 2022 | #3 | |
True Blue American | Sep 2022 | #6 | |
LiberalFighter | Sep 2022 | #20 | |
True Blue American | Sep 2022 | #4 | |
rpannier | Sep 2022 | #25 | |
LittleGirl | Sep 2022 | #26 | |
Raster | Sep 2022 | #36 | |
LittleGirl | Sep 2022 | #37 | |
madamesilverspurs | Sep 2022 | #5 | |
True Blue American | Sep 2022 | #7 | |
keopeli | Sep 2022 | #19 | |
True Blue American | Sep 2022 | #28 | |
True Blue American | Sep 2022 | #30 | |
rpannier | Sep 2022 | #24 | |
nakocal | Sep 2022 | #8 | |
nakocal | Sep 2022 | #9 | |
TheBlackAdder | Sep 2022 | #10 | |
Justice matters. | Sep 2022 | #11 | |
True Blue American | Sep 2022 | #12 | |
Justice matters. | Sep 2022 | #13 | |
True Blue American | Sep 2022 | #29 | |
qazplm135 | Sep 2022 | #14 | |
Turbineguy | Sep 2022 | #15 | |
moose65 | Sep 2022 | #16 | |
czarjak | Sep 2022 | #17 | |
keopeli | Sep 2022 | #18 | |
SharonAnn | Sep 2022 | #21 | |
ancianita | Sep 2022 | #22 | |
ramen | Sep 2022 | #23 | |
burrowowl | Sep 2022 | #31 | |
pecosbob | Sep 2022 | #27 | |
SKKY | Sep 2022 | #32 | |
dlk | Sep 2022 | #33 | |
Roisin Ni Fiachra | Sep 2022 | #34 | |
Raster | Sep 2022 | #35 | |
lees1975 | Sep 2022 | #39 | |
Ladythatvotesblue | Sep 2022 | #38 | |
Omaha Steve | Sep 2022 | #40 |
Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 06:58 PM
Walleye (24,534 posts)
1. So she is calling her Senate colleagues children, who need parental supervision. JFC
Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 07:07 PM
Botany (68,086 posts)
2. Please we need a massive blue wave this Roevember in order to make that bi-polar egotist no longer
... relevant. Sinema is a one term wonder and knows it too. So she is making it so that when
she is out of office she will be very rich and on the boards of pharmaceutical, big health care companies, and right wing colleges and never have to do any real work again. Except to fly to Hawaii or Europe or Aspen for the companies yearly meetings. Or visit Pepperdine or Hillsdale college for a few days a year. |
Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 07:16 PM
LiberalFighter (46,121 posts)
3. She is clueless.
Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #3)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 07:23 PM
True Blue American (17,024 posts)
6. I do not think so after watching her on the floor.
The day the gun bill came out, she was all over the floor, talking to Republicans, then announced she was for the bill. She is smarter than I gave her credit for.
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Response to True Blue American (Reply #6)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 10:20 PM
LiberalFighter (46,121 posts)
20. And if the Senate gains two additional Democrats?
What committee or sub-committee will Schumer assign her?
Sub-Committee on Deodorants. Sub-Committee on Civil War Cannons. Sub-Committee on Joe McCarthy. |
Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 07:20 PM
True Blue American (17,024 posts)
4. I have been watching Senema
Last edited Tue Sep 27, 2022, 05:34 AM - Edit history (1) On the Senate floor. She is down there talking to all the Republican men, including Mitch, friendly.
I do believe she is responsible for getting some Republicans to sign ion. It is clear she is smoozing them, so do not knock it. She is a stand out on the floor with her loud sun dresses and white tennies. Kind of a good cop, bad cop.. Manchin is the bad cop! ![]() |
Response to True Blue American (Reply #4)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 01:05 AM
rpannier (24,013 posts)
25. I've been watching her on and off the senate floor
This is the woman who went back to Arizona and wouldn't meet with any constituency other than those at a fund rasing (she said she had no time to meet anyone -- she made time for them)
She won't meet with people who worked hard to get elected (many she has known for longer than 4 years) to explain herself She is pleased with herself for helping undermine President Biden's financial agenda She is a cancer and, if she was helpful in that one bill, it doesn't make up for the rest of her time in the senate feathering her nest |
Response to rpannier (Reply #25)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 01:33 AM
LittleGirl (7,854 posts)
26. I'm just pissed at her
I will never vote for her again.
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Response to LittleGirl (Reply #26)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 11:22 AM
Raster (20,989 posts)
36. I campaigned for Sinema. I donated to Sinema. I voted for Sinema.
I regret each and every one of those actions. I will work to defeat Sinema in 2024.
#PrimarySinema #ArizonaDeservesBetterThanSinema |
Response to Raster (Reply #36)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 11:24 AM
LittleGirl (7,854 posts)
37. Ugh, sorry about that. nt
Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 07:22 PM
madamesilverspurs (15,446 posts)
5. She's clearly of the opinion
that we don't know the difference between bipartisanship and feathering one's own nest.
If she can't be gone, she can be made irrelevant. Let's do that. . |
Response to madamesilverspurs (Reply #5)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 07:24 PM
True Blue American (17,024 posts)
7. Nope, Senema
Is helping get the bills passed.
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Response to True Blue American (Reply #7)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 09:50 PM
keopeli (3,151 posts)
19. What 'bipartisan' bills was she instrumental in getting passed? Only "bipartisan" bills count.
Response to keopeli (Reply #19)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 05:45 AM
True Blue American (17,024 posts)
28. The gun bill for one. The I frastucture bill.
Not sure about the CHIPS bill. I was too busy to watch but after a few times of watching her go straight to Republicans it was clear what she was doing. After being on the floor coaxing Republicans she went right to speak that she was backing the gun bill.
Now, I Have no idea how she treats her constuents, I know she sucks up to her wealthy donor’s and her poor taste in clothes on the Senate floor is atrocious, Senema is stuck on herself, that is clear.but I do know she helped get those bills passed, although she also killed some good parts. It takes those kind of negotiations with do nothing Republicans. I am moderate, you win some, you lose some, come back to fight another day. |
Response to keopeli (Reply #19)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 06:09 AM
True Blue American (17,024 posts)
30. The gun bill for one. The I frastucture bill.
Not sure about the CHIPS bill. I was too busy to watch but after a few times of watching her go straight to Republicans it was clear what she was doing. After being on the floor coaxing Republicans she went right to speak that she was backing the gun bill.
Now, I Have no idea how she treats her constuents, I know she sucks up to her wealthy donor’s and her poor taste in clothes on the Senate floor is atrocious, Senema is stuck on herself, that is clear.but I do know she helped get those bills passed, although she also killed some good parts. It takes those kind of negotiations with do nothing Republicans. I am moderate, you win some, you lose some, come back to fight another day. |
Response to True Blue American (Reply #7)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 12:59 AM
rpannier (24,013 posts)
24. I'll be happy to see her primaried
And sent off to the congressional dustbin of history
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Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 07:28 PM
nakocal (442 posts)
8. Sen Sinema is NOT a moderate
She is a whoever gives her the biggest bribe (aka campaign contribution) Senator. Almost every Democratic Senator is a moderate. The problem is that the media and the republican party are to the right of fascists.
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Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 07:33 PM
nakocal (442 posts)
9. Does not know the difference between being tough and being miserly
“Those of you who are parents in the room know, the best thing you can do for your child is not give them everything they want,” Sinema said.
The republicans would starve children if it would make them an additional fifty cents. Sinema is a lying idiot who is just in it for the money. The Democratic senators represent more than 60% of the country. |
Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 07:33 PM
TheBlackAdder (26,570 posts)
10. She won't get re-elected again, so she only has one thing to do -- sell out for the most cash.
Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 07:33 PM
Justice matters. (6,232 posts)
11. "she has limited the ambitions of President Joe Biden" AS IF
his "ambitions" were for himself and not the American people...
Fighting climate change is one of the "ambitions of President Joe Biden" ![]() What in a world is a strange wording... |
Response to Justice matters. (Reply #11)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 07:43 PM
True Blue American (17,024 posts)
12. Senema voted for every bill
The Senate passed standing on the platform when he signed the bills. You guys need to watch the Senate floor when they are passing bills instead of pundits.
I changed my mind when it became clear she was talking up the bills with Republicans. |
Response to True Blue American (Reply #12)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 07:50 PM
Justice matters. (6,232 posts)
13. Democrat Sinema in spotlight as obstacle to Biden economic agenda
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/democrat-sinema-spotlight-obstacle-biden-economic-agenda-2021-09-30/
The Arizona Democrat's private huddling this week with Biden and his aides comes as her opposition to the size of a $3.5 trillion social spending proposal has become a key obstacle to Democratic efforts to lock down support for one of the pillars of the president's domestic agenda.
Big deal. She voted for less than half of that. ![]() |
Response to Justice matters. (Reply #13)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 05:48 AM
True Blue American (17,024 posts)
29. A biased
Article does not prove anything to me. That is why I quit watcjing pundits and started watching the Senate and House votes.
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Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 07:51 PM
qazplm135 (7,426 posts)
14. she also said she and McConnell had "shared values"
which is a bit purge inducing.
All she is doing is prepping the scene for an attempt at an independent run because she knows she can't win as a Democrat next time around. |
Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 08:42 PM
Turbineguy (36,080 posts)
15. To Republicans, bipartisanship means
"submit to my will"
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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #15)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 09:41 PM
moose65 (2,992 posts)
16. You speak the truth!
And Sinema is full of shit.
The filibuster doesn’t encourage bipartisanship. Republicans aren’t interested in bipartisanship. The filibuster has been used by Republicans to block every possible bill that Democrats have tried to pass. |
Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 09:44 PM
czarjak (8,988 posts)
17. Weasel Wisdom
Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 09:46 PM
keopeli (3,151 posts)
18. What was the compromise Sinema? Bipartisan means compromise. What did we get? NOTHING!
Response to keopeli (Reply #18)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 11:02 PM
SharonAnn (13,593 posts)
21. Right, bipartisanship doesn't mean surrender.
Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 11:30 PM
ancianita (31,923 posts)
22. Rachel shredded her tonight as a persistently pernicious ignoramus.
Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 12:50 AM
ramen (688 posts)
23. This is the most concise summation of her that I have seen:
Response to ramen (Reply #23)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 06:41 AM
burrowowl (16,881 posts)
31. Love the Onion!
Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 02:29 AM
pecosbob (6,975 posts)
27. She's toast
Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 07:19 AM
SKKY (11,203 posts)
32. Bipartisanship would be fantastic if we weren't the only ones playing that game...
...Because I agree with her to a point, but when the other side's only measure of success is how much of our stuff they can block, that's hardly bipartisanship.
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Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 10:01 AM
dlk (10,505 posts)
33. Sinema is a conniver who craves the spotlight and isn't above trolling her Democratic colleagues
I doubt she'll be re-elected and she's grabbing all the cash she can while she can.
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Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 10:12 AM
Roisin Ni Fiachra (2,556 posts)
34. Can't wait until she loses the primary in 2024 to a loyal Democrat, who
will go on to win her Senate seat.
Democrats in Arizona, and across the nation, will "get everything we want", with whipped cream and a cherry on top |
Response to Roisin Ni Fiachra (Reply #34)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 11:20 AM
Raster (20,989 posts)
35. Already in process!
#PrimarySinema #ArizonaDeservesBetterThanSinema
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Response to Roisin Ni Fiachra (Reply #34)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 12:42 PM
lees1975 (2,705 posts)
39. She will be beaten by any Democrat who runs,
most likely Congressman Rueben Gallegos. And he'll take the seat and she will be done.
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Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 11:53 AM
Ladythatvotesblue (72 posts)
38. Sinema
Is a Horrible Senator. She is in it for her own payday. Not representing the folks that sent her there. Hope the damage she does to the country will be as little as possible before her constituents kick her to the curb!
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Response to Jenny von Westphalen (Original post)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 01:01 PM
Omaha Steve (93,503 posts)