Prince Accused of Plot in Germany Is Said to Have Visited Russian Diplomats

[Temeret]

Source: New York Times

The German prince accused of organizing a plot to overthrow the German government met at least once with Russian diplomats at a consulate in Germany, according to two people familiar with the investigation into the conspiracy, a meeting that investigators are examining to determine how aggressively the prince tried to involve Moscow in the plot.

The two people also described striking new details about the plot, offering a dramatic portrait of how much planning the network had invested in its effort.

Investigators told lawmakers that in the course of raids against the group, which targeted 150 locations across the country, they confiscated around 40 firearms. But they also found thousands of bullets for other weapons they have yet to locate, leaving police on the hunt for hidden caches of weapons.

Three people familiar with the investigation — a lawmaker, a top aide to another lawmaker, and another German official — discussed details of the investigation on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about the case publicly. Lawmakers on certain parliamentary committees were briefed on the investigation Monday night.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/13/world/europe/prince-heinrich-germany-russian-consulate.html?searchResultPosition=1

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Why it was a German coup leader meeting Russian diplomats?
Let me grab my popcorn.

[Irish_Dem]

1. The multiple international plots to bring down western democracies are not coincidence.

Who benefits?

[Uncle Joe]

4. The oligarchs of the world. n/t

[Irish_Dem]

5. And the new axis of evil: Russia/China/Iran/Saudi/NK

[Rebl2]

6. YEP!

[Alexander Of Assyria]

13. America should ban all imports from China immediately, in this axis no forgiveness.

Stop the cargo ships destined for the big box stores, who needs it all?

[paleotn]

8. Bingo. Others have seen how Russian oligarchs operate....

and want a piece of that action where they live. The root of much that's going on right now.

[Wicked Blue]

2. Why am I not surprised?

Putin has long plotted to destabilize Europe, NATO and the EU

[peppertree]

3. The SELF-STYLED German prince, they mean

German - like France and Italy - rescinded all titles of nobility after World War II.

Something about the kind of politics the nobility liked to support.

[paleotn]

7. It was the German nobility, along with the industrialists, often one and the same,....

and specifically their men in the Reichstag like Franz von Papen and others who cracked the door open for the Nazis. They could bend them to their will, or so they thought. They had that backwards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_von_Papen

The key takeaway from that whole slog is....Don't crack the the damn door for nazis. Period. Ever. Why that's so goddamn hard to understand....

[peppertree]

9. Genau!

Like Cheeto, Hitler didn't just rise to power by ranting and raving - as high school history books like to suggest.

He did it with massive support from business and social elites - from both Germany and (as Prescott Bush could attest) abroad.

[paleotn]

10. Bingo!

[peppertree]

11. Danke.

[Evolve Dammit]

12. yes indeed. And playing out the exact same way today. Biden and DOJ have a short time to counter.

[pecosbob]

16. People like von Schleicher

[maxrandb]

17. Another takeaway is that the filthy rich ALWAYS think they can control the monsters they build

but, they can't.

Another example of why we needed a 90% top marginal tax rate.

There is simply no reason the one person, whether it be Muskrat, the Kochs, Murdoch, or US Steel, can amass such immense power over society.

[Martin68]

14. All these stupid and weak plots that Putin employed have resulted in: nothing.

He thought he could imprison Europe in an energy trap, he thought Trump would give him the US on a platter, he thought he'd install a pro-Russian government in Ukraine within days. The KGB genius is a sham, just like Trump and Elon are shams. They are all narcissistically egomaniacs who believe their own shit. It was really scary for a while, but Russia, Trump, Elon, the Irani theocrats - are all empty shells. It's not over yet, but they are off balance and scared. They'll soon be on the run.

[Warpy]

15. I want to know how aggressively Moscow courted Prince Numbskull

That's the real question here.

C'mon, we know what Putin has been up to, from Brexit to TFG and now this moron.

[FakeNoose]

18. Germany needs to nullify all vestiges of "aristocracy" including fake-inherited titles

This goes for all of them including the Bavarians. Enough already! The monarchy is over, so is the aristocracy. No more princes, lords, barons, dukes or duchesses. No more "pretenders" either. Their fake-titles have meant nothing since 1918.