Argentina win World Cup, beating France in penalty shootout

[peppertree]

Source: The Athletic

Argentina have won the 2022 World Cup.

Argentina beat France 4-2 on penalty kicks after a thrilling 3-3 draw which saw Lionel Messi score twice and Kylian Mbappe score a hat-trick.

Read more: https://theathletic.com/live-blogs/argentina-vs-france-world-cup-2022-final-live-score-result/5vwJ9BknaKUL/

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Argentina's National Team - known as La Scaloneta, in honor of General Manager Lionel Scaloni - celebrates today's World Cup victory in Qatar - their first since 1986, and third overall.

[BlueTsunami2018]

1. Is there a worse way to decide a championship?

I certainly can’t think of one.

[Polybius]

2. I agree

They should just go into overtime like any other normal sport.

[Beastly Boy]

3. They did.

And they scored one goal each in overtime.

[Hav]

4. It has to be a joke

No way someone would deliberately expose their ignorance like this.

[Beastly Boy]

7. ???

Are you by any chance referring to this?

Third, and maybe the most noteworthy: There’s no “Golden Goal” — a game-winner that immediately ends the match when it’s scored — when it comes to these games. The full extra time is played to the end even when one side scores.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2022/12/2022-world-cup-overtime-rules-extra-time-argentina-france-qatar

[Hav]

8. No

My point was that nobody would honestly suggest that there should have been overtime when exactly that did happen and when this is normal for football. And btw, I stand corrected on that point, it wasn't a joke.

[Polybius]

14. Not everyone knows the rules in every sport

Plus I had meant indefinite overtime, so yeah I did word it horribly. I knew about the overtime rules that are currently in place.

[Polybius]

6. I mean indefinitely keep going in overtime

Like baseball in extra innings. It's the 13th inning and it's still 3-3? No problem, here comes the 14th inning.

[muriel_volestrangler]

9. And then you're testing stamina, not footballing skill

Baseball is not a good comparison; people are standing, or sitting, around for a lot of it. American football, ice hockey or basketball are better as comparisons, but there's the question of substitution - available all the time, and reversible, in most American favourite sports.

One possible suggestion I've seen that's better than just "keep going" is "keep going with a golden goal rule, but allow continuous (re)substitution". While the stamina of the best players would still be vital, they'd be able to give people a spell off, and it means the skill of the entire squad is tested. But it is, like penalties, a change from normal football rules.

[Polybius]

15. That's actually an excellent idea

Not sure how often they revise their rules, but it might be worth looking into.

[Tarc]

11. Traditional extra-innings baseball is boring as fuck

Suggesting anything should replicate that is not a sound suggestion.

[Casady1]

18. The game should be won

playing the game. Anything else is BS. Endurance is part of every game.

[C Moon]

16. I recall a Dodgers' game that went late into the night.

They finally stopped it at around 2 AM, and finished the next day.

[Casady1]

19. keep going until you have a winner

endurance is part of every sport.

[Warpy]

5. Maybe France24 will start getting back to normal now

For the past few weeks, every other story was about football.

[Tarc]

10. I'm surprised there's no whining and screeching about "SPOILERS!"

from the crowd who taped it on their VCR to watch later.

[tazkcmo]

13. I gave up.

I quit "screeching". You're welcome.

[MedRxx]

12. Untrue, Fake News: Qatar Won the World Cup !!

As The Shovel CLEARLY reports:

Seemingly out of the contest until the very last moments, Qatar pulled off a spectacular upset for the ages, with FIFA announcing them winners at the conclusion of the World Cup final. It is the first time a nation has won the trophy without getting past the group stages. A $4 billion payment from the Qatari Government to FIFA was described as ‘totally unrelated’.


https://www.theshovel.com.au/2022/12/19/qatar-wins-world-cup/

[SKKY]

17. It was an unreal final. And respect to France because they were basically dead...

...with 10 minutes left. But, Messi is the GOAT, and he proved it today once and for all.

[Beacool]

20. Congratulations Argentina!!!

It was one of the best matches of any World Cup final. I'm so happy for the Argentine people and for Messi, since this was probably his last World Cup. He led his team to victory after a disappointing first match with Saudi Arabia.

[peppertree]

21. Hear, hear

This was a much needed moment of joy for them - plus, politically, it makes a comeback for Trump's pal Macri next year somewhat less likely.

Argentines are still struggling with the 2018 "Macrisis" - a Bush-style debt bubble collapse.

And (on top of that!) the pitiful performance by the soccer team that year, due largely to bossy and incompetent coaching by Macri pal Jorge Sampaoli.

Not surprisingly, some in the country's RW media (every bit as vicious as Farce News) were openly hoping the team would lose - for that very reason: the elections next year.

If you haven't seen it, here's footage of Messi, Coach Lionel Scaloni, and their team arriving in Argentina tonight. Enjoy!

[Beacool]

22. Thank you!!

I was in Argentina n September. The economy hit them hard. This is such a needed morale lift for the people. I'm thrilled for them and Messi too.

[peppertree]

23. You're very welcome