Tue Jan 24, 2023, 01:37 AM

Germany Charges 5 With Plot to Kidnap Minister, Overthrow Government

Source: Reuters

Prosecutors brought high treason charges against five people who allegedly planned to kidnap the health minister and were prepared to kill in order to topple the German government.

Read more: https://www.ntd.com/germany-charges-5-with-plot-to-kidnap-minister-overthrow-government_896599.html

Charges of "High Treason!" Germany, which went through two world wars and was re-shaped at least twice, including absorbing East Germany, has this vital law on the books.

In the US, convicting someone of "Treason" is one of the most difficult cases to try because our definition of "Treason" is just too narrow.

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9 replies	Author	Time	Post
Germany Charges 5 With Plot to Kidnap Minister, Overthrow Government (Original post)	C0RI0LANUS	Jan 24	OP
I Guess They Don't Have An AG Who Is Afraid To Indict nt	SoCalDavidS	Jan 24	#1
Or, being only one fourth the population of the US, and 3 percent our land base size, their scale	ancianita	Jan 24	#6
So many reasons but STILL not indicted.	flying_wahini	Jan 24	#7
lol	LiberalLovinLug	Jan 24	#8
The group was formed a year ago. Why are the Germans unfairly rushing to judgement so quickly?	NBachers	Jan 24	#2
True. Where is their due diligence?	C0RI0LANUS	Jan 24	#3
Germany is not Michigan	DFW	Jan 24	#4
ikr	prodigitalson	Jan 24	#9
Steve Bannon and/or Roger Stone	no_hypocrisy	Jan 24	#5

Response to C0RI0LANUS (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 02:26 AM

SoCalDavidS (9,514 posts)

1. I Guess They Don't Have An AG Who Is Afraid To Indict nt

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Response to SoCalDavidS (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 08:47 AM

ancianita (30,122 posts)

6. Or, being only one fourth the population of the US, and 3 percent our land base size, their scale

of detection and enforcement can be much smaller and faster. "Afraid to Indict"?? Puh-lease.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 10:53 AM

flying_wahini (4,785 posts)

7. So many reasons but STILL not indicted.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 05:40 PM

LiberalLovinLug (13,581 posts)

8. lol

One fourth of the population and 3 percent land size means they are even more densely populated. And have a significantly smaller group of agents than the US to investigate and enforce.

Its pathetic, embarrassing and also extremely dangerous for the future for the US AG to stall and give excuses at this point. Evidence is overwhelming.
Its either Garland is another Comey or Mueller. A Republican who puts party first. Or its Democratic leadership who is afraid to upset the apple cart. That this paralysis is some political delusion that it would look to be too mean to MAGATs and Fox News would not be nice about it. And believe they will do better in 2024 if any charges against Trump disappear......like magic.

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Response to C0RI0LANUS (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 02:34 AM

NBachers (15,547 posts)

2. The group was formed a year ago. Why are the Germans unfairly rushing to judgement so quickly?

Don't they know they have i's to dot and t's to cross?

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Response to NBachers (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 03:13 AM

C0RI0LANUS (472 posts)

3. True. Where is their due diligence?

Is Germany some Third World Shithole Country to rush so rapidly to judgment?

Why doesn't Germany take its time to prosecute, like the country that put a man on the moon, but can't put an orangutan into a zoo?

I too am appalled at the Germans.
Tsk, Tsk:

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Tue Jan 24, 2023, 04:15 AM

DFW (49,978 posts)

4. Germany is not Michigan

Someone must have forgotten to explain the difference.

Another difference: the way Germany hands out jail sentences, these guys, if found guilty as charged, they could get two and a half years on probation.

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Response to DFW (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 06:43 PM

prodigitalson (1,086 posts)

9. ikr

The Germans gave a cannibal 8 1/2 - until an appeals court told them to try again and he got life imprisonment. So apparently there is no protection against double jeopardy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Meiwes

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Response to C0RI0LANUS (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 04:58 AM

no_hypocrisy (41,821 posts)

5. Steve Bannon and/or Roger Stone

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