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hookaleft

(936 posts)
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 06:38 AM Mar 2023

Jury awards $8.25M to Black mother, daughters handcuffed outside Castro Valley Starbucks

Source: ktvu

CASTRO VALLEY, Calif. - A federal jury awarded a mother and her two daughters $8.25 million after they were unlawfully searched and handcuffed by Alameda County sheriff's deputies at a Castro Valley Starbucks on their way to taking one of the young women to a college math test in Berkeley.

The women were not physically harmed by law enforcement, but the dollar amount of the award signals that the jurors felt the family's constitutional rights had been stripped from them because of the color of their skin.

"I think that everybody recognizes we all have implicit bias," their attorney, Craig Peters of San Francisco, said in an interview on Monday. "I have it. You have it. We've all got it. These officers are no different. And so, subconsciously, there was something going on that made them unreasonably suspicious of this family. I think that if this same scenario happened and these were white women, it would have played out very differently."

The verdict was reached March 1 following a two-day civil trial before U.S. District Court Judge William Alsup in San Francisco. A jury deliberated for 16 hours before awarding the mother and daughters this unprecedented amount from the Alameda County Sheriff's Office.


Read more: https://www.ktvu.com/news/jury-awards-8-25m-to-black-mother-daughters-handcuffed-outside-castro-valley-starbucks



There is bodycam footage at the link. The cops were out of control.
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Jury awards $8.25M to Black mother, daughters handcuffed outside Castro Valley Starbucks (Original Post) hookaleft Mar 2023 OP
Great for them Traildogbob Mar 2023 #1
Taxpayers foot the bill RandiFan1290 Mar 2023 #2
they needed to get more... samnsara Mar 2023 #7
Agree but it definitely helps with college tuition. 👍🏾 live love laugh Mar 2023 #23
Police behavior reflects community expectations. yardwork Mar 2023 #8
Police behavior reflects WHITE communities' expectations. live love laugh Mar 2023 #25
And the 2 deputies were promoted. IcyPeas Mar 2023 #3
The so-called investigation obviously did not any accounts from the family. riversedge Mar 2023 #10
It ought to be paid from their pension fund... EarthFirst Mar 2023 #4
Can't, thanks to the Roberts / McConnell Supreme Court NullTuples Mar 2023 #14
And the lawsuit should have included a billboard reminding the citizens that their yaesu Mar 2023 #5
Yes! yardwork Mar 2023 #9
How awful for that innocent family. I'm glad the girl made it to her math test... Tanuki Mar 2023 #6
Yep black men are treated much worse sadly. live love laugh Mar 2023 #26
THIS is why we say ACAB and defund the police. intheflow Mar 2023 #11
This was in Sept 2019, so they were 14 and 16 -- i.e., GIRLS, not "young women," pnwmom Mar 2023 #12
I agree, but if we're going to be pedantic - and we should - wouldn't that be the PSAT? NullTuples Mar 2023 #15
No, it wouldn't. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2023 #17
Thank you for the correction; I made a bad assumption based on her age at the time of the incident NullTuples Mar 2023 #22
I took the SAT at 12. eggplant Mar 2023 #18
Thank you for the correction and for teaching me something! NullTuples Mar 2023 #21
That's multiple times more than some families get for wrongful death suits Fiendish Thingy Mar 2023 #13
Pretty obvious profiling/prejudice IronLionZion Mar 2023 #16
I like it republianmushroom Mar 2023 #19
I like the decision, but I really have a problem with this story since it comes from a Fox affiliate ificandream Mar 2023 #20
It was said by the attorney for the plaintiffs that won their case. MichMan Mar 2023 #24
If I was the reporter I'd have left it out of the story. ificandream Mar 2023 #29
I hope the daughter was allowed to make up her missed test at Berkeley. SunSeeker Mar 2023 #27
Love the increase in societal standards. The jury returned Hortensis Mar 2023 #28

Traildogbob

(8,680 posts)
1. Great for them
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 07:05 AM
Mar 2023

But cops should pay, not taxpayers. “Citizens” should not foot the awarded penalties for consistent police abuse, against “citizens”.

yardwork

(61,539 posts)
8. Police behavior reflects community expectations.
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 09:29 AM
Mar 2023

Police brutality will stop when the wealthy, powerful members of every community change their own attitudes toward Black and brown people.

live love laugh

(13,080 posts)
25. Police behavior reflects WHITE communities' expectations.
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 12:21 AM
Mar 2023

Black communities, notsomuch.

Many decent, hard working, tax paying black citizens are treated poorly by police just because they happen to live in lower-income communities where crime flourishes.

IcyPeas

(21,841 posts)
3. And the 2 deputies were promoted.
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 07:36 AM
Mar 2023
An Internal Affairs investigation found that the deputies did nothing wrong, according to Peters.

Both Holland and Pope are now sergeants.

(From the link in the OP)

EarthFirst

(2,897 posts)
4. It ought to be paid from their pension fund...
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 07:42 AM
Mar 2023

No more municipal budget / insurance settlements.

Perhaps law enforcement conduct might swiftly change course.

Here’s a jumping off point:

https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/sb20-217

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
14. Can't, thanks to the Roberts / McConnell Supreme Court
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 11:39 AM
Mar 2023

That's exactly why they created the doctrine of Qualified Immunity; so cops can't be personally held responsible for their own actions.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
5. And the lawsuit should have included a billboard reminding the citizens that their
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 08:51 AM
Mar 2023

Police department wasted 8.25 million in tax money.

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
6. How awful for that innocent family. I'm glad the girl made it to her math test...
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 09:06 AM
Mar 2023

but it made her 40 minutes late and imagine how flustered that insulting and frightening experience must have made her, going in to the test. I'm also glad to read she's doing well academically and is about to graduate UCLA! As bad as this was, if it had been a Black dad and sons instead of mom and daughters they might very well have been injured or killed by those cops.

intheflow

(28,443 posts)
11. THIS is why we say ACAB and defund the police.
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 10:32 AM
Mar 2023

Cannot believe there’s another active thread where many DUers are defending cops in Georgia for charging protesters who don’t want to expand police power with domestic terrorism. (Not this thread, one about the Georgia cop camp.) These two officers should have been fired, not promoted. smdh

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
12. This was in Sept 2019, so they were 14 and 16 -- i.e., GIRLS, not "young women,"
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 11:03 AM
Mar 2023

as the article called them.

And imagine this happening on your way to taking an SAT!

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,308 posts)
17. No, it wouldn't.
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 12:13 PM
Mar 2023
They were parked in a disabled spot, and were at the coffee shop early to take Aasylei Hardge-Loggervale to a statistics test in Berkeley on time. She was attending community college and was planning on transferring her credits to UCLA.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
16. Pretty obvious profiling/prejudice
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 11:47 AM
Mar 2023

those cops had absolutely no probable cause or any crime to charge them with.

ificandream

(9,340 posts)
20. I like the decision, but I really have a problem with this story since it comes from a Fox affiliate
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 02:12 PM
Mar 2023

This part really bothers me.

"I think that everybody recognizes we all have implicit bias," their attorney, Craig Peters of San Francisco, said in an interview on Monday. "I have it. You have it. We've all got it. These officers are no different. And so, subconsciously, there was something going on that made them unreasonably suspicious of this family. I think that if this same scenario happened and these were white women, it would have played out very differently."


Sorry, but this is both bullshit and an attempt to legitimize what the officers did. Typical Fox "news" bullshit.

MichMan

(11,869 posts)
24. It was said by the attorney for the plaintiffs that won their case.
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 12:17 AM
Mar 2023

Do you think he didn't say what was broadcast on TV and Fox used an actor in his place ?

ificandream

(9,340 posts)
29. If I was the reporter I'd have left it out of the story.
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 04:37 PM
Mar 2023

Just because the attorney said something stupid like that doesn't mean it needed to be reported. And it wasn't really relevant to the story. It's called news judgment. (Something I was taught in journalism school.)

SunSeeker

(51,513 posts)
27. I hope the daughter was allowed to make up her missed test at Berkeley.
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 02:02 AM
Mar 2023

Glad to see a significant verdict. I hope it helps deter future racist stops.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. Love the increase in societal standards. The jury returned
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 09:56 PM
Mar 2023

an emphatic "totally unacceptable."

This kind of abuse has always been so common, and usually people have no recourse.

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