4-year-old shot and killed by 3-year-old in Houston, sheriff says
Source: ABC News
A 3-year-old in Houston, Texas, gained access to a firearm and "unintentionally" shot and killed a 4-year-old, Harris County Sheriff Ed Gonzalez said.
Gonzalez said the preliminary investigation showed that the two children had been inside an apartment on Bammel North Houston Road. with one other person.
"The toddler was pronounced deceased at the scene," he said on Twitter.
This is a developing story. Please check back for updates.
Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/4-year-shot-killed-3-year-houston-sheriff/story?id=97819873
But at least that three year old's 2A rights weren't infringed upon. And oh, I almost forgot the thoughts and prayers.
This is absolutely sickening.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Dont talk only about the innocent victims of The Gun, talk about the blood drenched Guns in America, 400 million strong!
groundloop
(11,513 posts)Fuck them and fuck their guns. Firearms are the number 1 cause of death of children in the US, THAT alone should be a wake up call that it's well past time to fucking do something.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Nothing says National Failure and Disgrace than Gun Deaths in America.
The Rest of The World does not look to America for anything anymore other than their own free military protection, and a place to launder money.
electric_blue68
(14,814 posts)troubled as we are esp these past 8 yrs.
And who leaves a loaded gun around toddlers & young kids!
dalton99a
(81,391 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)This is the Republican plan for the future:
TygrBright
(20,753 posts)Prairie_Seagull
(3,304 posts)The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)Ban child beauty pageants.
Arrest CEOs who hire Children.
Outlaw 11 year old children from getting married.
Yes rape is a reason to get an abortion.
Journeyman
(15,023 posts)Lonestarblue
(9,958 posts)billh58
(6,635 posts)from another Group:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/126214360#post7
Texin
(2,590 posts)actually pull the trigger. It's yet another reason to tighten up on guns altogether, and especially the semi-automatic and automatic ones in circulation. Anyone who's got toddlers or children in the house need to rethink ownership of them, or at a bare minimum, keep them locked up with the key in their close possession.
Walleye
(30,946 posts)live love laugh
(13,074 posts)Roc2020
(1,613 posts)full stop.
LoisB
(7,173 posts)barbtries
(28,758 posts)for the adults in charge...oh never mind. even if there are, guns matter more than people in this country. it is perverted.
Kaleva
(36,243 posts)barbtries
(28,758 posts)but there's a so-called adult who is responsible for this child's death. it just sickens me.
Walleye
(30,946 posts)Ilsa
(61,690 posts)from their child's death. Which they caused/contributed to.
and they'll have to live with that...
live it in prison. seems to me that guns have become so ubiquitous that people forget they're deadly weapons. until something like this happens, then they're so sorry. they're just so sorry. but there was no intent! aargh
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)in prison for the negligent death of their child.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Gee, what could possibly go wrong?
Kaleva
(36,243 posts)Sancho
(9,067 posts)This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that werent secured are out of control in our society. As such, heres what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. Im not debating the legal language, I just think its the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because its clear that they should never have had a gun.
1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learners license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.
Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a drivers license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.
live love laugh
(13,074 posts)Ilsa
(61,690 posts)could have been prevented with common sense regulation.
republianmushroom
(13,454 posts)Seems that they are starting them younger every day.
Warpy
(111,124 posts)tornado34jh
(904 posts)It should not be that easy for young kids to get access to firearms. The 2nd amendment is not an excuse to evade accountability.
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ZonkerHarris
(24,204 posts)tornado34jh
(904 posts)People have had drivers licenses taken away for a lot less, and a vehicle can be potentially deadly as well. Perhaps we should do the same with guns. Both can be deadly if the person is not responsible, why should guns be any different?
maxsolomon
(33,232 posts)It is the cost of freedom. Apparently.
Punishing the negligent parties will do little to nothing to deter others from negligence. They're uninformed, and that's a large part of why they're negligent.
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)ZERO thoughts and prayers for those houses where this happens. ZERO!!
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)"One failed attempt at a shoe bomb and we all take off our shoes at the airport. Thirty-one school shootings since Columbine and no change in our regulation of guns." -Daily Show correspondent John Oliver
How about this logic. I have a right to travel. I have a right to drink. So I have a right to drink and drive. I have a right to drink and drive and carry an AR. Snark
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)Plainsman1
(25 posts)Son, we live in a house that has rooms, and those rooms have to be guarded by toddlers with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, pre-teen sister? Gun owners have a greater responsibility than anyone can possibly fathom. You weep for a dead toddler, and you curse the gun. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that this toddlers death, while tragic, probably saved lives; and the existence of guns, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.
You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want an open carry firearm -- you need a large capacity magazine.
Gun nuts use words like "Second Amendment," "protecting my family," "from my cold dead hands." Gun nuts use these words to hide a shriveled penis. Toddlers use them as something their moms drunken boyfriend says before smacking her.
Gun nuts have neither the time nor the inclination to explain themselves to the parent of a dead toddler who used to rise and sleep under the blanket of the very freedom that their familys gun provided and then questioned the manner in which one of their toddlers used it.
Gun nuts would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, they would just suggest you pick up your own AK47 and stand a post at the 7-11. Either way, they don't give a DAMN what some dead toddler was thinking about as that bullet went through his brain!
electric_blue68
(14,814 posts)Is a 3 yr old still considered a toddler?
Gun safety, anyone?
Xandric
(60 posts)How many children will have to die before something is done?
Chrisdutch
(70 posts)Well, it takes a good three-year-old with a gun to stop a bad four-year-old without one.... right Wayne?
liberalmediaaddict
(766 posts)At this point it should be classified as a mental disorder in the DSM.
With the increased rate of murder and suicide in our country since the pandemic the Republicans view on guns is barbaric.
Skittles
(153,111 posts)isn't that what paranoid gun humpers always say?
Cha
(296,780 posts)kid's life is gone because guns.
Bayard
(22,004 posts)Its not going to change as long as the demented fan clubs for people like MTG and Boebert keep the adulation going.