'Especially reprehensible' Retired Air Force officer sentenced to 2 years in prison in Capitol rio
Source: WUSA 9
'Especially reprehensible' | Retired Air Force officer sentenced to 2 years in prison in Capitol riot case
Author: Jordan Fischer
Published: 3:14 PM EDT March 17, 2023
Updated: 3:14 PM EDT March 17, 2023
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WASHINGTON A federal judge sentenced a retired Air Force lieutenant colonel to two years in prison Friday for joining a mob that occupied the U.S. Senate on Jan. 6, 2021.
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Prosecutors asked Bates to sentence Brock to five years in prison at the lower end of the recommended guideline range theyd calculated in no small part because of what they described as a manifesto he sent to another military veteran on Christmas Eve 2020. Titled Plan of Action if Congress fails to act on 6 January, the document laid out eight points that Brock described as main tasks, including:
- Seizing all democratic politicians and Biden key staff and select republicans, including Senators John Thune and Mitch McConnell, and interrogating them using measures we used on Al Queda (sic).
- Seizing national media figures. Brock wrote they should eliminate them. Media silence except for White House communications.
- Former President Donald Trump issuing a general pardon for all crimes up to and including murder for those who put down the Democratic Insurrection.
Brocks task list also included the note, Do not kill LEO unless necessary. Gas would assist in this if we can get it.
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(3,103 posts)cstanleytech
(26,233 posts)sarge43
(28,940 posts)Once he serves the sentence DoD can bring him up on charges.
cstanleytech
(26,233 posts)Duppers
(28,117 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 17, 2023, 09:16 PM - Edit history (1)
He should have his pension revoked and get a dishonorable discharge. Biden being commander in chief could do that.
sarge43
(28,940 posts)DoD might pull his pension during his slammer vacation - can't play, won't pay.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)I corrected my other mistake too. I'm Irish & am having a nip. 💚 🍀
Btw, Why wouldn't a conviction in a civil court count against him?
If he were tried in Military Court for the same crime he was convicted for in Civil Court, that would be double jeopardy, no?
sarge43
(28,940 posts)a retired commissioned officer can be reactivated based on charges for certain crimes. Sedition is one. I wouldn't bet the farm that will happen, but it could give him something more to sweat while he's enjoying the ambiance of our prison system.
COL Mustard
(5,870 posts)Civilian prisons are much harsher than military prisons. Let him rot there for awhile. He wont like it.
sarge43
(28,940 posts)Shipwack
(2,157 posts)Back in boot camp they explained to us that if we were convicted of drunk driving (for instance) in a civilian court, we could then be convicted of drunk driving in a military court. Double jeopardy would not apply, because they are two separate laws. You can't be convicted of breaking the same law twice, but you can be convicted for your actions twice...
Or maybe they were just lying to us... Who knows. : :
Two effing years?!?!??!!!
Probatim
(2,501 posts)This guy had a plan. FFS.
intheflow
(28,442 posts)Two years is just enough time for him to miss the next election while also giving him two years with nothing to do but fine tune his violent plans to overthrow the government. The justice system is severely broken.
onetexan
(13,020 posts)NullTuples
(6,017 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)something that begs jail time.
Bev54
(10,039 posts)COL Mustard
(5,870 posts)In hopes of a lighter sentence. You know, a rat!
RockRaven
(14,899 posts)CanonRay
(14,084 posts)they could reinstate him to active duty and try him for treason. Slap on the wrist.
sarge43
(28,940 posts)General Court no doubt. Not an affair where you want to be the guest of honor.
Auggie
(31,133 posts)Actual fine was $2000.00.
chowder66
(9,055 posts)leaven worth . Recalled to active service,forfeit pension. Max sentence to MilitetPrison. Tota uckin scum.
Backseat Driver
(4,380 posts)This one surely didn't serve with honor to his open-ended oath; he certainly should not be entitled to double-dip SS and a military pension!
Novara
(5,821 posts)HE GOT LESS THAN THE MINIMUM RECOMMENDED SENTENCE. LESS THAN MINIMUM.
"Justice" is a joke.
QED
(2,747 posts)Paladin
(28,243 posts)We are so very fucked.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,548 posts)Not the guy who was there with his mom, Brock was the other one.
Kaleva
(36,248 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,311 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,548 posts)Most well known being Stewart Rhodes, leader of the Oath Keepers, who was convicted of seditious conspiracy and other felonies, and is facing up to 80 years in prison.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,311 posts)Arrested a week later
CAPITOL RIOT ARRESTS
Veteran with Zip Ties ...
EX-WIFE REPORTED HIM TO FEDS
RussBLib
(9,003 posts)...that some of our military "leaders" fell prey to this bullshit. Unless they were democracy-hating white supremacist fascists in hiding all along.
cstanleytech
(26,233 posts)the problem is a lot of them are good at concealing it which tarnishes the ones who are not like that.
Javaman
(62,500 posts)cstanleytech
(26,233 posts)pirsquared
(77 posts)Let us remember how awful prison is. Total humiliation being checked in, body cavity search. No privacy at all for 2 years; no snacks; no sex (masturbation is forbidden--really); the first year is probably the worst, getting settled in to the new regimen.
And forever listing this conviction and hiatus on your resume and life story.
intheflow
(28,442 posts)He wanted to use his military training against fellow citizens. He broke his oath to uphold the Constitution and protect it against aggressors, foreign and domestic. Two years is just long enough to give him all the time he needs to refine his plans while giving him hope hell be out with time enough left in his miserable life to carry them out.
Edited to add: if hes allowed to keep his military pension he wont need to find a job. If he loses it, he could still have set up some kickass retirement account. And even if hes got zip for retirement, there will always be some jingoistic MAGAt to give him work under the table. Or he can become an expert on Fox!
republianmushroom
(13,475 posts)Botany
(70,447 posts)paleotn
(17,881 posts)Let him die in poverty. He deserves vastly worse.
If democracy is worth dying for, attempting to destroy democracy should be met with the same.
Aristus
(66,286 posts)That will hurt him. Put him down in the roll of retirees as a private. He is no gentleman, therefore, no officer.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)TY.
gopiscrap
(23,726 posts)bankruptcies due to huge non insured medical bills I had cancer back before you couldn't kick some off of insurance, ran up a $192,000 medical bill. For the poor you either do time or send in money I had no money, spent 13 months in a federal prison and had my debt reduced by agreement to $10,001.00
Cha
(296,848 posts)So what happens when that Murderous Traitor gets out of jail?
Kid Berwyn
(14,795 posts)Perhaps other, more serious charges await him. Conspiracy to overthrow the government, could be one.
IbogaProject
(2,787 posts)I'm not happy about this. Kids have gotten 5 or more years for weed albeit over a certain number of plants or pounds, but this guy went in with one or more weapons. I'm counting zip-tie handcuffs as those are clearly for a single purpose.
dalton99a
(81,392 posts)purr-rat beauty
(543 posts)10 years
why isn't this being brought up in the media?
how kiddy gloved this crap is
Wuddles440
(1,119 posts)appalling sentences for several of the most prominent insurrectionists, this is easily the greatest miscarriage of justice to date. An absolute travesty!
James48
(4,427 posts)ARTICLE 88. Contempt toward Officials
Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
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He can be activated to stand Courts Martial under Article 2, Section 4, as a regular service member in retired pay status.
Its not double jeopardy because he wasnt charged with contemptuous words by the DoJ. Thats a different crime. I think the very existence of the list of people to wanted to injure - naming dem politicians- is enough to convict him on UCMJ article 88.
twodogsbarking
(9,674 posts)The Wizard
(12,536 posts)convicted and have his government pension revoked.
LiberalFighter
(50,783 posts)Martin68
(22,765 posts)of the recommended range for this crimes?