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swag

(26,480 posts)
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 05:38 PM Mar 2023

Mother cries out in court after youngest N.C. defendant in Jan. 6 riot gets 3 1/2 years

Source: Charlotte News & Oberver

BY MICHAEL GORDON
MARCH 17, 2023 5:33 PM

A North Carolina man, the second youngest defendant in more than 1,000 arrests linked to the deadly riot at U.S. Capitol, will spend the next three years of his early adulthood behind bars.

Aiden Bilyard of Cary was 18 when he sprayed chemical agents at police and broke out a window in the Capitol during the violent mob attack on Jan. 6, 2021, to keep Donald Trump in office.

On Friday, U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton sentenced the now-21-year-old to 40 months in prison for assaulting police with a deadly or dangerous weapon.

Bilyard, he said, had answered “the calls of a demagogue” and had taken up arms with “people prepared to destroy this country to get what they wanted.


Read more: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article273271355.html

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Mother cries out in court after youngest N.C. defendant in Jan. 6 riot gets 3 1/2 years (Original Post) swag Mar 2023 OP
Too bad. He was old enough to know better. Ocelot II Mar 2023 #1
Not an excuse here, but... fleabiscuit Mar 2023 #65
context swag Mar 2023 #2
TY.. so he won't get to Cha Mar 2023 #31
Hell DENVERPOPS Mar 2023 #49
let's get his picture on this thread orleans Mar 2023 #39
He will not do well The Wizard Mar 2023 #52
The treasonous scum are complaining because they are kept separate. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #54
probably to help protect the general population. cab67 Mar 2023 #56
Post removed Post removed Mar 2023 #3
Yeah, democracy doesn't work that way. Fiendish Thingy Mar 2023 #6
He made it into the Air Force... and got kicked out. keithbvadu2 Mar 2023 #4
Bring up your kids better Jilly_in_VA Mar 2023 #5
Exactly Rebl2 Mar 2023 #17
That's what she should be crying about Sucha NastyWoman Mar 2023 #45
Whwere Wierd Al when you need him? Hieronymus Phact Mar 2023 #55
I would risk a bet she's a FAUX pRopaganda watcher... Justice matters. Mar 2023 #58
Womp womp. paleotn Mar 2023 #7
Police line do not cross means just that. Bilyard said, had answered "the calls of a demagogue." Botany Mar 2023 #8
And yet the demagogue remains free. Ray Bruns Mar 2023 #34
At least this should also keep him out of the military. LiberalFighter Mar 2023 #9
These judges have been gold bucolic_frolic Mar 2023 #10
Learned lesson JETTBHEART Mar 2023 #11
Your kind nature... hmm..... Mar 2023 #12
To be clear JETTBHEART Mar 2023 #26
"Lesson learned"? H2O Man Mar 2023 #14
To be clear JETTBHEART Mar 2023 #28
I couldn't agree more, H2O Man SheltieLover Mar 2023 #42
He assisted feds in capturing and prosecuting his 2 friends grantcart Mar 2023 #61
Fair point. H2O Man Mar 2023 #64
We don't hate justice. marybourg Mar 2023 #16
hmmm ZonkerHarris Mar 2023 #18
Are you serious? BigmanPigman Mar 2023 #19
To be clear JETTBHEART Mar 2023 #29
We have a justice system for those who break laws Rorey Mar 2023 #20
He needs some Florence SuperMax Lucky Luciano Mar 2023 #22
I'm sorry, JETTBHEART, but I agree with H2OMan. Aristus Mar 2023 #25
Exactly! SheltieLover Mar 2023 #43
You called it... homegirl Mar 2023 #69
Do you feel the same way about other criminals? IronLionZion Mar 2023 #46
You clearly forgot the sarcasm icon. We do not forgive TRAITORS, or their niyad Mar 2023 #47
Enjoy the fine prison cuisine, traitor. Hassler Mar 2023 #13
"Riot" naw insurrection republianmushroom Mar 2023 #15
What exactly do you think repubs reaction would be... rubbersole Mar 2023 #21
If they were mostly black insurrectionists... spudspud Mar 2023 #24
Amen. LoisB Mar 2023 #32
yep irisblue Mar 2023 #37
I remember when Bush's DOJ called a youngster a terrorist for setting some humvees wiggs Mar 2023 #30
As is often the case, its better to check to see if one's memory is correct before posting onenote Mar 2023 #48
Same as Ashli Babbit; rioter, terrorist, insurrectionist. keithbvadu2 Mar 2023 #23
Told more than once to STOp & advanced in a threatening manner. Tough shit oldsoftie Mar 2023 #40
Mama had better be prepared to support her boy Demobrat Mar 2023 #27
Speaking as a mother, I'm sure it would suck to see your kid convicted of a serious crime. ShazzieB Mar 2023 #33
Think of all the mothers whose sons were sent to 10+ years for evidence placed by arresting cops. Samrob Mar 2023 #41
Boo Hoo, he's still alive, so there's that, Mother. Nt Baked Potato Mar 2023 #35
They wouldn't let my son in the Air Force Puppyjive Mar 2023 #36
Too bad. Shoulda taught junior not to attack LEO and vandalize the People's property. catbyte Mar 2023 #38
He will learn a trade IbogaProject Mar 2023 #44
It might be interesting to see a map of the states moniss Mar 2023 #50
Wouldn't ya know? Wally Pipps Mar 2023 #62
And here's a list MyMission Mar 2023 #63
Welcome to DU! KS Toronado Mar 2023 #66
Bad mother. twodogsbarking Mar 2023 #51
He's lucky he only got 40 months. Vinca Mar 2023 #53
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Mar 2023 #57
He is damn lucky that's all he got! I don't have any patience for traitors. Emile Mar 2023 #59
Mother shoulda taught baby to never attack LEO using weapons or anything. Justice matters. Mar 2023 #60
Waaaaaahhhh!!! Mysterian Mar 2023 #67
Well, he admitted to what he was doing XanaDUer2 Mar 2023 #68
Too damn bad. StarryNite Mar 2023 #70

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
65. Not an excuse here, but...
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 11:06 PM
Mar 2023

I often mention that male brains are not fully mature until they are around 23 years old. Much easier to draft soldiers for wars too.

DENVERPOPS

(8,677 posts)
49. Hell
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 11:55 PM
Mar 2023

when we were his age, at 18 YO we were fighting for the right to vote which was 21. All the time, many 18 YO were dieing in Vietnam for freedoms and those freedoms didn't include this young man's right to try to overthrow the U.S. Government and a legitimate election.

Buy a Ticket, take the ride...............Or more succinctly, You grew it, you chew it...........

In countless other countries, these insurrectionists wouldn't have made it past January 7th.........

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
54. The treasonous scum are complaining because they are kept separate.
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 08:42 AM
Mar 2023

Put them in general population. Why are they being separated?

cab67

(2,962 posts)
56. probably to help protect the general population.
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 10:27 AM
Mar 2023

The last thing we need is a cluster of insurrectionists persuading other inmates to join their cause.

Response to swag (Original post)

Botany

(70,282 posts)
8. Police line do not cross means just that. Bilyard said, had answered "the calls of a demagogue."
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 05:58 PM
Mar 2023

Fuck him. I hope he does every minute.


LiberalFighter

(50,477 posts)
9. At least this should also keep him out of the military.
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 06:00 PM
Mar 2023

This wasn't the first event he attended connected with the orange idiot.

JETTBHEART

(33 posts)
11. Learned lesson
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 06:03 PM
Mar 2023

He seems sorry for his actions and as Americans we should forgive. Yes, he did wrong but we should never become what we hate.

hmm.....

(11 posts)
12. Your kind nature...
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 06:13 PM
Mar 2023

... is great and your point is spot-on. But the young man has been treated with fair justice and the judge granted leniency. We can't let him walk free.

H2O Man

(73,308 posts)
14. "Lesson learned"?
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 06:16 PM
Mar 2023

Gracious. He is obviously sorry he that he was caught, charged, convicted, and now faces incarceration. But, unless you have been in communication with him, you can only speculate on if he is "sorry." After his eventual release, we will likely find out more. I do hope that during his incarceration, he is able to fully grasp what he did wrong.

I can't speak for anyone else about potential "hate." I've only seen people who believe that those who threatened democracy -- including assaulting police -- face serious legal consequences. It puzzles me that anyone confuses that for "hate." And I doubt any sincere DUers are at risk of becoming someone attacking our government.

Just my opinion.

H2O Man

(73,308 posts)
64. Fair point.
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 05:13 PM
Mar 2023

At the same time, one might speculate that he did so in order to reduce his own legal consequences. That also tends to be at least equally genuine. Just my opinion, of course.

I do recogize that I am a bit rigid in this area. I believe that Gandi and King were correct, that if you break the law, you willingly submit to the consequences for your actions. Of course, I understand and appreciate why law enforcement benefits from pressuring people to rat on others. It is most often one of the best tools they have.

Before retiring, while working on forensic cases, I think I was most effective in evaluating people by not allowing any emotion to play a role. Not hate or disgust, nor pity or forgiveness. The county judge appreciated that I was able to do so. Thus, there were times when someone refused to rat on others that it suggested they were flint-hard anti-socials, firmly embedded in the criminal code of conduct, and unlikely to change ..... kind of like the mobsters of yesteryear. There were other times when the refusal seemed more rooted in an understanding that their criminal behaviors were deserving of harsh consequences, and thus they seemed more likely to change their ways.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
20. We have a justice system for those who break laws
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 06:35 PM
Mar 2023

It doesn't have anything to do with a feeling of hatred toward the perpetrator. Those who feel the need to forgive are free to do so, but he got a just punishment for his crime.

Aristus

(66,075 posts)
25. I'm sorry, JETTBHEART, but I agree with H2OMan.
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 06:49 PM
Mar 2023

He’s only sorry he got caught. Any expressions of remorse in the courtroom are just a childish attempt to get leniency.

These are Trump’s people. They’re not capable of self-reflection, remorse, or a desire to atone.

IronLionZion

(45,254 posts)
46. Do you feel the same way about other criminals?
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:36 PM
Mar 2023

How about the black and brown ones serving prison sentences much longer than this guy?

rubbersole

(6,522 posts)
21. What exactly do you think repubs reaction would be...
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 06:37 PM
Mar 2023

..if these defendants were black and trying to keep Obama in office. Death penalty/traitors/constitution/police respect...

spudspud

(508 posts)
24. If they were mostly black insurrectionists...
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 06:43 PM
Mar 2023

there would be no defendants to go to trial. They would have mowed them down on Jan. 6th without hesitation.

wiggs

(7,788 posts)
30. I remember when Bush's DOJ called a youngster a terrorist for setting some humvees
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 07:10 PM
Mar 2023

on fire at a dealership. IIRC he got 25 years.

onenote

(42,374 posts)
48. As is often the case, its better to check to see if one's memory is correct before posting
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:59 PM
Mar 2023

The case you cite involved William Cottrell. He was a 23 year old college graduate ("youngster"?) who was arrested in March 2004 in connection with arson attacks that destroyed or seriously damaged over 100 vehicles as part of an environmental protest. He was charged with seven counts of arson, conspiracy to commit arson, and one count of using a destructive device during a crime of violence. The latter charge was subsequently dropped. In April 2005, he was found guilty and sentenced to serve 100 months on the arson charges and 100 months, to be served concurrently, on the conspiracy charge...in other words, his sentence was for 8 years, four months (not "25 years&quot . He appealed his convictions and in September 2009 the 9th Circuit vacated the arson conviction and sentence, but affirmed the conspiracy sentence and remanded the case to the District Court to decide Cottrell's sentence. Although DOJ labelled Cottrell and the Earth Liberation Front with which he was affiliated as "eco-terrorists", DOJ decided not to retry Cottrell for the arson charges, the District Court decided, in November 2009, that Cottrell should serve the rest of the original 100 month sentence for the conspiracy charge. If he had served the entire sentence, he would have been released in September 2012. However, pursuant to early release guidelines, he was let out of prison in August 2011, after serving (from time of arrest ), around 7.5 years.

In short, longer sentence the Jan 6. insurrectionist, but nowhere near "25 years".

keithbvadu2

(36,360 posts)
23. Same as Ashli Babbit; rioter, terrorist, insurrectionist.
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 06:43 PM
Mar 2023

Ashli Babbitt should have complied, isn't that what you dipsh*ts tell me every time cops shoot some black woman asleep in her own bed. - Jeff Tiedrich

Demobrat

(8,915 posts)
27. Mama had better be prepared to support her boy
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 06:58 PM
Mar 2023

for a long, long time once he gets out of jail. Not that many good jobs out there for ex-cons.

It is kind of sad that he ruined his life so young, and for nothing. But he had his fun, and those who play must pay.

ShazzieB

(15,952 posts)
33. Speaking as a mother, I'm sure it would suck to see your kid convicted of a serious crime.
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 07:29 PM
Mar 2023

But this punk did the crime, and no he needs to do the time!

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
41. Think of all the mothers whose sons were sent to 10+ years for evidence placed by arresting cops.
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 09:30 PM
Mar 2023

Cry me a river.

Puppyjive

(484 posts)
36. They wouldn't let my son in the Air Force
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 08:22 PM
Mar 2023

He has a slight hearing impairment. They wouldn't take him even with corrected hearing. I'm an Air Force veteran and it is very painful. They will take thugs, but they won't take a good kid. Very concerning to me.

moniss

(3,948 posts)
50. It might be interesting to see a map of the states
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 12:17 AM
Mar 2023

that would reflect the head count of where these clowns call home. Both adjudicated and charged but yet to be convicted/sentenced. I'm wondering if the insurrectionists have a large representation as coming from the states that are now trying to ban books, rewrite history etc. I know as a whole it seems every state had their clowns but was it more prevalent in states that seem to favor a trend towards their population being ignorant of the truth? A conscious effort perhaps on the part of the nefarious big movers/shakers/funders in the GQP to have a larger and growing percentage of their population "dumbed down", less nuanced in their thinking and more susceptible to being whipped into belief/action by propaganda?

MyMission

(1,845 posts)
63. And here's a list
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 05:06 PM
Mar 2023
https://seditiontracker.com/suspects/by_state

As I scrolled through the list Florida did stand out, although there are a number of states that had a greater number of insurrectionists. Generally the larger states seem to have more, like Texas and NY, but it's interesting to scroll through. There are so many.

I originally got the link from DU years ago now.
https://seditiontracker.com/

The home page gives information about the latest arrests and convictions, and then there are several pages that list the magats by date, name, residence (state) and status.

Justice matters.

(6,873 posts)
60. Mother shoulda taught baby to never attack LEO using weapons or anything.
Sat Mar 18, 2023, 12:49 PM
Mar 2023

Coulda, shoulda, dida??

Too late now Mother.

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