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Thu May 25, 2023, 01:05 PM

Oath Keepers founder sentenced to 18 years in Jan. 6 seditious conspiracy case

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Source: NBC News

WASHINGTON — The founder of the far-right Oath Keepers has been sentenced to 18 years in federal prison in connection with the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol following his conviction on seditious conspiracy. The sentence for Stewart Rhodes is the longest imposed on a Jan. 6 defendant to date.

In a politically-charged speech in the courtroom just before his sentencing, he called himself a "political prisoner" and said that when he talked about "regime change" in a phone call with supporters earlier this week, he meant he hopes that former President Donald Trump will win in 2024. The judge disagreed that Rhodes had been locked up for politics, saying it was his actions that led to his criminal convictions. “You, sir, present an ongoing threat and a peril to this country and to the republic and to the very fabric of this democracy," Judge Amit Mehta said before handing down the sentence.

Rhodes was convicted of seditious conspiracy in November along with Kelly Meggs, a fellow Oath Keepers member. "They won't fear us until we come with rifles in hand," Rhodes wrote in a message ahead of the Jan. 6 attack. After the attack, in a recording that was played in court during his trial, he said his only regret was that they “should have brought rifles.”

Wearing an orange prison jumpsuit Thursday, Rhodes said he believes the only crime he committed was opposing those who are “destroying our country.” Mehta told Rhodes that he was found guilty of seditious conspiracy “not because of your beliefs, not because you supported the other guy, not because Joe Biden is president right now,” but because of the facts of the case, and his actions before, during and after Jan. 6. “You are not a political prisoner, Mr. Rhodes,” he said.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/oath-keepers-founder-sentenced-18-years-jan-6-seditious-conspiracy-cas-rcna85852



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WASHINGTON -- The founder of the far-right Oath Keepers has been sentenced to 18 years in federal prison in connection with the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol following his conviction on seditious conspiracy.

The sentence for Stewart Rhodes is the longest imposed on a Jan. 6 defendant to date. In a politically-charged speech in the courtroom just before his sentencing, Rhodes called himself a "political prisoner" and said that when he talked about "regime change" in a phone call with supporters earlier this week, he meant he hopes that former President Donald Trump will win in 2024.

The judge disagreed that Rhodes had been locked up for politics, saying it was his actions that led to his criminal convictions. "You, sir, present an ongoing threat and a peril to this country and to the republic and to the very fabric of this democracy," Judge Amit Mehta said before handing down the sentence.

Rhodes was convicted of seditious conspiracy in November along with Kelly Meggs, a fellow Oath Keepers member who will be sentenced later Thursday afternoon. "They won't fear us until we come with rifles in hand," Rhodes wrote in a message ahead of the Jan. 6 attack. After the attack, in a recording that was played in court during his trial, he said his only regret was that they "should have brought rifles."



WASHINGTON -- The founder of the far-right Oath Keepers has been sentenced to 18 years in federal prison in connection with the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol following his conviction on seditious conspiracy. The sentence for Stewart Rhodes is the longest imposed on a Jan. 6 defendant to date. "You, sir, present an ongoing threat and a peril to this country and to the republic and to the very fabric of this democracy," Judge Amit Mehta said before handing down the sentence.

Rhodes was convicted of seditious conspiracy in November along with Kelly Meggs, a fellow Oath Keepers member who will be sentenced later Thursday afternoon. "They won't fear us until we come with rifles in hand," Rhodes wrote in a message ahead of the Jan. 6 attack. After the attack, in a recording that was played in court during his trial, he said his only regret was that they "should have brought rifles."

When given the chance to speak before sentencing, Rhodes, wearing an orange prison jumpsuit, called himself a "political prisoner" and said he believes the only crime he committed was opposing those who are "destroying our country." He added that he hopes former President Donald Trump wins in 2024.

Mehta told Rhodes that he was found guilty of seditious conspiracy "not because of your beliefs, not because you supported the other guy, not because Joe Biden is president right now," but because of the facts of the case, and his actions before, during and after Jan. 6. "You are not a political prisoner, Mr. Rhodes," Mehta said.



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WASHINGTON -- The founder of the far-right Oath Keepers has been sentenced to 18 years in federal prison in connection with the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol following his conviction on seditious conspiracy.

The sentence for Stewart Rhodes is the longest imposed on a Jan. 6 defendant to date. "You, sir, present an ongoing threat and a peril to this country and to the republic and to the very fabric of this democracy," Judge Amit Mehta said before handing down the sentence. Rhodes was convicted of seditious conspiracy in November along with Kelly Meggs, a fellow Oath Keepers member who will be sentenced later Thursday afternoon.

"They won't fear us until we come with rifles in hand," Rhodes wrote in a message ahead of the Jan. 6 attack. After the attack, in a recording that was played in court during his trial, he said his only regret was that they "should have brought rifles."

Rhodes and Meggs were put on trial alongside Jessica Watkins, Kenneth Harrelson and Thomas Caldwell, fellow Oath Keepers who were convicted of obstruction of an official proceeding and aiding and abetting, but not seditious conspiracy. Watkins and Harrelson will be sentenced on Friday.

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #1)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:07 PM

2. Sounds like Elmer will be glued to his jail cell

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Response to peppertree (Reply #2)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:08 PM

3. I hope so, without any internet privileges

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #3)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:08 PM

4. Barring an Orange pardon, of course

Perish the thought.

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #1)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:10 PM

5. He's currently 58.

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Response to lamp_shade (Reply #5)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:12 PM

8. I thought he was 66. Thanks. I will self-delete

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:10 PM

6. Well Elmer is 57 years old and if this is federal sentence he will have to do at least 80% of ....

.... that time. 57 + 14.4 years = 71.4 years old.

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Response to Botany (Reply #6)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:28 PM

14. And we all know old Elmer isn't going to be a model prisoner

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #14)

Thu May 25, 2023, 02:14 PM

30. How can he be prevented from indoctrinating young prisoners

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Response to OhNo-Really (Reply #30)

Thu May 25, 2023, 11:43 PM

56. By sending him to a super max.

ADX Florence. That will do nicely.

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Response to Uncle_Remus (Reply #56)

Thu May 25, 2023, 11:57 PM

57. Is this what will happen?

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Response to Botany (Reply #6)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:33 PM

18. Young enough to continue being a threat.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:10 PM

7. Good

And trump should be right there with him for prodding these people into it.

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Response to Bayard (Reply #7)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:28 PM

15. Amen, Bayard!

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Response to Bayard (Reply #7)

Thu May 25, 2023, 02:54 PM

37. Heck YES!

TY!


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Response to Duppers (Reply #37)

Thu May 25, 2023, 03:11 PM

40. Hoping Тяцмp gets more than 18 years for seditious conspiracy.

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #40)

Thu May 25, 2023, 08:08 PM

55. 50 for the Con, & hoping he'll die in prison

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:12 PM

9. Sedition is just not the best form of advertising one's patriotism.

There are far better methods, Mr. Rhodes. Take a look at Pres. Carter's career as well as his retirement for constructive ideas.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:18 PM

10. WaPo

They updated a preliminary story from 6:00 a.m.

LEGAL ISSUES

Oath Keepers leader Rhodes sentenced to 18 years for Jan. 6 seditious conspiracy

Stewart Rhodes and others are set to receive the first punishments for far-right extremist group members convicted of seditious conspiracy

By Spencer S. Hsu, Tom Jackman and Rachel Weiner
Updated May 25, 2023 at 1:00 p.m. EDT | Published May 25, 2023 at 6:00 a.m. EDT

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:20 PM

11. "womp womp" nt

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:25 PM

12. Still on the low end.

The government was asking for 25 which was the middle.

From what I’ve read, 21 was the low end.

Judges keep sending messages that these clowns will get the lightest touch when they should be doing the exact opposite.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #12)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:34 PM

19. Yes.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #12)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:47 PM

23. 18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

Not more than 20 years
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384

Elmer got an extra year for his good looks, I guess

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Response to Beastly Boy (Reply #23)

Thu May 25, 2023, 03:37 PM

43. Terrorism enhancement

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #12)

Thu May 25, 2023, 02:03 PM

26. Agreed...that asshat tried to overthrow the Government for his Furher

This wasn't some candy ass crime. He should have got the absolute MAX.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:27 PM

13. This should get the attention of every treasonous magat

"You, sir, present an ongoing threat and a peril to this country, the republic and the very fabric of democracy."

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:29 PM

16. EXCELLENT.

Staying tuned in the popcorn room.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #16)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:32 PM

17. I was close

I figured it wouldn't be the recommended "25 years" but would be closer to "20 years".

However when it comes time for Tarrio (and the Proud Boys), I expect his will be less, but still substantial since he wasn't physically there.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #17)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:35 PM

20. You were!

I'm a believer.

I'll gladly wait for the full extent of the law to probably be appropriately applied at Trump's sentencing.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:45 PM

21. Adios, fuckface. (nt)

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:45 PM

22. how about the rest of em get 18 years.

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Response to AllaN01Bear (Reply #22)

Thu May 25, 2023, 04:59 PM

49. What's really stupid about these idiots is

they love fascism, yet in the days of fascism, they would have been beheaded for their crimes against their nation. Democracy is the only reason they still have their lives.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:50 PM

24. Rhodes :".... said his only regret was that they "should have brought rifles."

Well, big mouth, you will have years to think about what you said.



.........Rhodes was convicted of seditious conspiracy in November along with Kelly Meggs, a fellow Oath Keepers member who will be sentenced later Thursday afternoon. "They won't fear us until we come with rifles in hand," Rhodes wrote in a message ahead of the Jan. 6 attack. After the attack, in a recording that was played in court during his trial, he said his only regret was that they “should have brought rifles.”

When given the chance to speak before sentencing, Rhodes, wearing an orange prison jumpsuit, called himself a "political prisoner" and said he believes the only crime he committed was opposing those who are “destroying our country.” He added that he hopes former President Donald Trump wins in 2024.


Mehta told Rhodes that he was found guilty of seditious conspiracy “not because of your beliefs, not because you supported the other guy, not because Joe Biden is president right now,” but because of the facts of the case, and his actions before, during and after Jan. 6. “You are not a political prisoner, Mr. Rhodes,” Mehta said.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/oath-keepers-founder-sentenced-18-years-jan-6-seditious-conspiracy-cas-rcna85852

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 02:00 PM

25. Hope the traitors in the House and Senate

are scared to death.

I hope I live to see the day all of the traitors are arrested, tried, found guilty and get sentences like this.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 02:07 PM

27. I would recommend

He sleep with one eye open for the whole sentence. Is he a tenor or alto? This is gonna be the largest choir in history. When is the next number one single coming out?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 02:09 PM

28. Bet his ex wife is happy as hell that his AZZZ won't see the light of day for 18 years

I've seen a couple of statements she's made about her former "husband".

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Response to Bengus81 (Reply #28)

Thu May 25, 2023, 02:32 PM

33. He was brutal to his wife and kids. I hope they can all live in safety now. nt

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 02:14 PM

29. He probably won't be allowed on the intramural prison trap and skeet team

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 02:18 PM

31. That means the Orange Turd

Should get 25 years. Garland wake up and show us something. If someone tells another person to set fire and it kills people, the person who instructed the firesetter is charged with homicide.

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Response to nowforever (Reply #31)

Thu May 25, 2023, 02:33 PM

34. Special Counsel is on the case

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Response to nowforever (Reply #31)

Thu May 25, 2023, 03:34 PM

42. I don't know why it's so hard to label TFG a seditionist.

It's been repeatedly proven he's tried to assume government office through machinations other than being duly elected, and maintains he will continue these behaviors.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 02:25 PM

32. Now get the leader of the whole damn cult

He will look good in orange.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #32)

Thu May 25, 2023, 03:16 PM

41. Let's not say he'll look "good" in orange....

Let's just say he'll look his best. He will still look like shit, because he IS shit.

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Response to lastlib (Reply #41)

Thu May 25, 2023, 04:25 PM

46. My bad

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 02:37 PM

35. YAAAAAAYYYYY!!!

Bastard still got off too easy. He should be down-on-his/knees grateful that I wasn’t the presiding judge in his case. He’d never see the outside of a jail cell again.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 02:49 PM

36. No. Bury him at GITMO. F...... terrorist.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 03:00 PM

38. Bye, Stewie.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 03:05 PM

39. Buh bye, dickhead.

Now do Meadows.

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Response to DJ Porkchop (Reply #39)

Thu May 25, 2023, 04:08 PM

45. Mark Meadows Flipping on Donald Trump Is 'Game Over'--Legal Expert

Last edited Fri May 26, 2023, 08:38 AM - Edit history (1)

(This is all speculation @ this point but Jack Smith flat out "has the goods" on Meadows.
But Meadows has to be asking himself if he wants to die in prison for Trump. see story
@ the bottom of my post)


Donald Trump would be in serious legal trouble if speculation that his former chief of staff, Mark Meadows, is co-operating with Special Counsel Jack Smith's investigation turned out to be correct, a legal expert has said.

Former Defense Department special counsel Ryan Goodman was reacting to a CNN report on how Meadows is continuing to work his influence in Washington D.C., including by advising GOP lawmakers on the ongoing debt-ceiling negotiation.

The report adds that Meadows is no longer in communication with the former president, even though he is considered a key figure in Smith's criminal probe into Trump's attempt to overturn the 2020 election results.

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Meadows was with Trump on January 6 as the insurrection was unfolding and he was said to be a key figure in the post-2020 election events.

Meadows was also said to have been in direct communication with organizers of "stop the steal" protest, which took place in D.C. on January 6 in 2021, prior to the riot.

https://www.newsweek.com/mark-meadows-trump-special-counsel-jan6-1802571

*******

Meadows burned papers after meeting with Scott Perry, Jan. 6 panel told

The unusual move came after a meeting between then-President Donald Trump’s then-chief of staff and the Pennsylvania Republican, according to recent testimony.

Then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows burned papers in his office after meeting with a House Republican who was working to challenge the 2020 election, according to testimony the Jan. 6 select committee has heard from one of his former aides.

Cassidy Hutchinson, who worked under Meadows when he was former President Donald Trump’s chief of staff, told the panel investigating the Capitol attack that she saw Meadows incinerate documents after a meeting in his office with Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.). A person familiar with the testimony described it on condition of anonymity.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/26/meadows-burned-papers-meeting-scott-perry-00035411

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 04:02 PM

44. Dayum!

FAFO.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 04:52 PM

47. Bam! Good! "Enjoy" the clink!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 04:57 PM

48. Another trump voter

outta the system for a while.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 05:18 PM

50. The Garland DOJ's sentencing memo for convicted Oath Keepers, page 183

VII. CONCLUSION

For the reasons set forth above, the government recommends that the Court impose a lengthy sentence of imprisonment on each defendant. Specifically, Stewart Rhodes should serve 25 years in prison; Kelly Meggs, 21 years; Jessica Watkins, 18 years; Roberto Minuta, 17 years; Edward Vallejo, 17 years; Kenneth Harrelson, 15 years; Thomas Caldwell, 14 years; Joseph Hackett, 12 years; and David Moerschel, 10 years.

Respectfully submitted,

MATTHEW M. GRAVES United States Attorney D.C. Bar No. 481052

By: /s/ Jeffrey S. Nestler
Assistant United States Attorney D.C. Bar No. 978296
Troy A. Edwards, Jr.
Alexandra Hughes
Louis Manzo
Kathryn Rakoczy
Assistant United States Attorneys
U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia 601 D Street NW
Washington, D.C. 20530


https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23801119/rhodesetalsentmem050523.pdf

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Response to ancianita (Reply #50)

Thu May 25, 2023, 05:32 PM

51. "page 183"

LOL

Thanks for posting! And there is Matthew Graves. Busiest guy in D.C.

I think there is a statutory limit of 20 years for "seditious conspiracy". But the "extra time" over the 20 years guideline would be through an "enhancement" ( "administration of justice" ), to tack on the additional time.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #51)

Thu May 25, 2023, 08:01 PM

54. To save reading.



Yep, Matt Graves is The Man in the Criminal Division. I think I read in a recent report on the sentencing that he did add a terrorism enhancement in the memo. Checking page one, the 183 pages seem like a good read, but I'm not especially interested in digging to find out. I prefer reading my new Stacey Abrams novel.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #50)

Fri May 26, 2023, 01:54 AM

59. Thank you!

A spokesman on MSNBC earlier tonight said that 18 years wasn't nearly enough for Rhodes, that the penalty for sedition has previously been death...

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 05:36 PM

52. As unrepentant as that motherfucker is, I'd like to have seen the recommended 25 years

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 07:26 PM

53. sounds about right.

now for the elected representatives who supported this insurrection, how about 10 years minimum.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2023, 01:19 AM

58. Bye bye Oath Traitor.

Take your friends too.

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Fri May 26, 2023, 09:27 AM

60. Will he be in adseg, or free to recruit and wreak havoc in genpop?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2023, 09:48 AM

61. Another "stable genius"

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2023, 10:36 AM

62. How will this racist prick be received by the general population

In his prison? He may find that his ideas are not welcome by the many minority groups present there.

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Fri May 26, 2023, 01:36 PM

64. Did he own a Red Ryder BB gun?

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