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Fri May 26, 2023, 12:57 AM

jgo (444 posts)

Mexican president tells Florida Hispanics: Don't give 'one single vote' to DeSantis

Source: The Hill

Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador on Thursday called on Hispanic people in Florida to vote against Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), who launched his 2024 White House bid the day before, because of his immigration policies.

“Hopefully Hispanics in Florida will wake up and not give him one single vote, to not vote for those who persecute migrants, those who don’t respect migrants,” López Obrador said.

López Obrador’s plea for Florida Hispanics to “wake up” comes as the state’s voters, including Latinos, have increasingly swung toward Republicans.

Last year, 58 percent of the state’s Hispanic voters swung toward DeSantis in his reelection campaign, according to CNN exit poll data analyzed by the Americas Society/Council of the Americas.

Read more: https://thehill.com/latino/4020967-mexican-president-tells-florida-hispanics-dont-give-one-single-vote-to-desantis/

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Mexican president tells Florida Hispanics: Don't give 'one single vote' to DeSantis (Original post)	jgo	Friday	OP
58%? For that asshat?	C Moon	Friday	#1
I'm not sure he has much sway over a large portion of Hispanics there...	Shipwack	Friday	#2
I have a brother in	riversedge	Friday	#3
Exactly. And of those 17%...	FBaggins	Friday	#8
Not a large portion, but some will. Most Cuban-Ams are white,	Hortensis	Friday	#14
Why stop with DeSantis? Trump has been just as awful.	Karadeniz	Friday	#4
As they are tied together with a knot of fascism, that's implied!	Alexander Of Assyria	Friday	#12
It's the same reason a lot of MAGAts support Republicans and Trump	Jarqui	Friday	#5
Pun Intended: Mexican Hispanics can "trump" Cuban Hispanics?	no_hypocrisy	Friday	#6
How many Hispanics who are US citizens care about what the president of Mexico wants?	FBaggins	Friday	#7
We'll wait and see.	Baitball Blogger	Friday	#10
Yes. About time leaders of the world spoke about American fascism.	Alexander Of Assyria	Friday	#11
Muchisimas gracias, Presidente Obrador.	Baitball Blogger	Friday	#9
You know you're an asshole,	Bayard	Friday	#13
you forget nutty yahoo and orban really loved trump	dembotoz	Friday	#15
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Friday	#16
I wonder if a poorly funded education system might be one.of the reasons we see so many	cstanleytech	Friday	#17
GOP has done tons of Spanish language radio in Florida	IronLionZion	Friday	#18
I suspect that 'machismo' has something to do with it.	OldBaldy1701E	Saturday	#19
Kick	AKwannabe	Saturday	#20

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Fri May 26, 2023, 01:07 AM

C Moon (11,568 posts)

1. 58%? For that asshat?

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Fri May 26, 2023, 01:12 AM

Shipwack (1,867 posts)

2. I'm not sure he has much sway over a large portion of Hispanics there...

A quick search finds this statistic. Though it's from 2004, I don't think things have changed all that much... Though I could be wrong.

The plurality (41%) of Latinos in Florida is Cuban, however there are sizeable proportions of Puerto Ricans (18%), Mexicans (17%), and South Americans (13%) in the state as well.

https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2004/03/19/latinos-in-california-texas-new-york-florida-and-new-jersey/

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Fri May 26, 2023, 01:59 AM

riversedge (66,008 posts)

3. I have a brother in

South Beach FL who has been there about 25 years.

He said when he first moved my people he knew from Cuba were Repugs but he thinks that has changed some over the years. He says now he knows lots of Cuban -Americans who vote Democratic.
Just an observation from one person.

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Fri May 26, 2023, 07:39 AM

FBaggins (25,902 posts)

8. Exactly. And of those 17%...

... since the ones he's talking to have to be voters and therefore US citizens...

Why would he assume that people who left Mexico to come to the US (or whose parents did) would care what his opinion is?

I'd be worried that it would have the contrary effect.

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Fri May 26, 2023, 10:06 AM

Hortensis (56,733 posts)

14. Not a large portion, but some will. Most Cuban-Ams are white,

also a large portion of Americans of South American background. And of course, those whites who are also conservative -- especially men! -- tend to vote Republican. Florida's Cubans also average significantly older, something like 40, than other Hispanic Americans, who average pre- middle age 30s range.

But while that explains why FL's "Hispanics" overall, and with them FL's EC votes, went for tRump/Repubs, it leaves all the rest who aren't at all happy about that and worried about what's happening.

Nationally, Mexican background still predominates big of course, and a large, solid majority of them and all the other Hispanic groups except Cuban and S.Am. still vote Democratic. Turnout increased by 30% in 2020, and Hispanics were big in electing Biden.

Cuban and South American backgrounds, though much fewer nationally, still predominate in FL, still vote Republican more, and made that critical difference in throwing FL to Republicans in 2020. GOTV among them was problematic for us.

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Fri May 26, 2023, 01:59 AM

Karadeniz (20,229 posts)

4. Why stop with DeSantis? Trump has been just as awful.

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Fri May 26, 2023, 09:43 AM

Alexander Of Assyria (5,678 posts)

12. As they are tied together with a knot of fascism, that's implied!

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Fri May 26, 2023, 05:01 AM

Jarqui (9,409 posts)

5. It's the same reason a lot of MAGAts support Republicans and Trump

They're lied to and there is no reliable media in their sphere to expose the lies.

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Fri May 26, 2023, 07:13 AM

no_hypocrisy (42,653 posts)

6. Pun Intended: Mexican Hispanics can "trump" Cuban Hispanics?

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Fri May 26, 2023, 07:37 AM

FBaggins (25,902 posts)

7. How many Hispanics who are US citizens care about what the president of Mexico wants?

Plenty of reasons to vote against this guy... but this isn't one of them.

I prefer the Newsome/DeSantis feud - where both are trying to keep their citizens from moving to the other state and convince their own to stay put. What kind of executive makes a stink about someone trying to keep his own citizens from leaving?

Last year, 58 percent of the state’s Hispanic voters swung toward DeSantis in his reelection campaign

I guess the answer is "not that many"

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Fri May 26, 2023, 07:51 AM

Baitball Blogger (45,717 posts)

10. We'll wait and see.

This has never happened before.

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Fri May 26, 2023, 09:41 AM

Alexander Of Assyria (5,678 posts)

11. Yes. About time leaders of the world spoke about American fascism.

Fuck the sovereign nation diplomatic protocol, this is Fascism 2.0, and Nazi Germany 2.0 may have nukes if goes much further.

The world is under existential threat from America, federal and in many of its 50 nation states.

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Fri May 26, 2023, 07:50 AM

Baitball Blogger (45,717 posts)

9. Muchisimas gracias, Presidente Obrador.

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Fri May 26, 2023, 09:57 AM

Bayard (18,784 posts)

13. You know you're an asshole,

When the president of another country campaigns against you.

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Fri May 26, 2023, 10:15 AM

dembotoz (16,043 posts)

15. you forget nutty yahoo and orban really loved trump

but generally i agree

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Fri May 26, 2023, 12:26 PM

cstanleytech (24,977 posts)

17. I wonder if a poorly funded education system might be one.of the reasons we see so many

Republican led states.
It would certainly explain why the Republicans in power in those states as well as those in office at the Federal level are against a good education.

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Fri May 26, 2023, 10:59 PM

IronLionZion (42,733 posts)

18. GOP has done tons of Spanish language radio in Florida

it brainwashes people similarly to conservative hate radio in other states

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Sat May 27, 2023, 07:26 AM

OldBaldy1701E (3,629 posts)

19. I suspect that 'machismo' has something to do with it.

After all, the rethug line is one of MANLY men who do MANLY things and are MANLY in appearance. They do NOT truck with any males who have long hair (except the ones who are MANLY) or who wear anything but jeans and cowboy hats. It is no wonder that plenty of Hispanics in this country are falling for that crap. They buy into it.

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Sat May 27, 2023, 03:00 PM

AKwannabe (4,809 posts)

20. Kick

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