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jgo

(871 posts)
Fri May 26, 2023, 12:57 AM May 2023

Mexican president tells Florida Hispanics: Don't give 'one single vote' to DeSantis

Source: The Hill

Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador on Thursday called on Hispanic people in Florida to vote against Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), who launched his 2024 White House bid the day before, because of his immigration policies.

“Hopefully Hispanics in Florida will wake up and not give him one single vote, to not vote for those who persecute migrants, those who don’t respect migrants,” López Obrador said.

López Obrador’s plea for Florida Hispanics to “wake up” comes as the state’s voters, including Latinos, have increasingly swung toward Republicans.

Last year, 58 percent of the state’s Hispanic voters swung toward DeSantis in his reelection campaign, according to CNN exit poll data analyzed by the Americas Society/Council of the Americas.


Read more: https://thehill.com/latino/4020967-mexican-president-tells-florida-hispanics-dont-give-one-single-vote-to-desantis/

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Mexican president tells Florida Hispanics: Don't give 'one single vote' to DeSantis (Original Post) jgo May 2023 OP
58%? For that asshat? C Moon May 2023 #1
I'm not sure he has much sway over a large portion of Hispanics there... Shipwack May 2023 #2
I have a brother in riversedge May 2023 #3
Exactly. And of those 17%... FBaggins May 2023 #8
Not a large portion, but some will. Most Cuban-Ams are white, Hortensis May 2023 #14
Why stop with DeSantis? Trump has been just as awful. Karadeniz May 2023 #4
As they are tied together with a knot of fascism, that's implied! Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #12
It's the same reason a lot of MAGAts support Republicans and Trump Jarqui May 2023 #5
Pun Intended: Mexican Hispanics can "trump" Cuban Hispanics? no_hypocrisy May 2023 #6
How many Hispanics who are US citizens *care* about what the president of Mexico wants? FBaggins May 2023 #7
We'll wait and see. Baitball Blogger May 2023 #10
Yes. About time leaders of the world spoke about American fascism. Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #11
Muchisimas gracias, Presidente Obrador. Baitball Blogger May 2023 #9
You know you're an asshole, Bayard May 2023 #13
you forget nutty yahoo and orban really loved trump dembotoz May 2023 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2023 #16
I wonder if a poorly funded education system might be one.of the reasons we see so many cstanleytech May 2023 #17
GOP has done tons of Spanish language radio in Florida IronLionZion May 2023 #18
I suspect that 'machismo' has something to do with it. OldBaldy1701E May 2023 #19
Kick AKwannabe May 2023 #20

Shipwack

(2,138 posts)
2. I'm not sure he has much sway over a large portion of Hispanics there...
Fri May 26, 2023, 01:12 AM
May 2023

A quick search finds this statistic. Though it's from 2004, I don't think things have changed all that much... Though I could be wrong.

The plurality (41%) of Latinos in Florida is Cuban, however there are sizeable proportions of Puerto Ricans (18%), Mexicans (17%), and South Americans (13%) in the state as well.

https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2004/03/19/latinos-in-california-texas-new-york-florida-and-new-jersey/

riversedge

(69,731 posts)
3. I have a brother in
Fri May 26, 2023, 01:59 AM
May 2023

South Beach FL who has been there about 25 years.

He said when he first moved my people he knew from Cuba were Repugs but he thinks that has changed some over the years. He says now he knows lots of Cuban -Americans who vote Democratic.
Just an observation from one person.

FBaggins

(26,697 posts)
8. Exactly. And of those 17%...
Fri May 26, 2023, 07:39 AM
May 2023

... since the ones he's talking to have to be voters and therefore US citizens...

Why would he assume that people who left Mexico to come to the US (or whose parents did) would care what his opinion is?

I'd be worried that it would have the contrary effect.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Not a large portion, but some will. Most Cuban-Ams are white,
Fri May 26, 2023, 10:06 AM
May 2023

also a large portion of Americans of South American background. And of course, those whites who are also conservative -- especially men! -- tend to vote Republican. Florida's Cubans also average significantly older, something like 40, than other Hispanic Americans, who average pre- middle age 30s range.

But while that explains why FL's "Hispanics" overall, and with them FL's EC votes, went for tRump/Repubs, it leaves all the rest who aren't at all happy about that and worried about what's happening.

Nationally, Mexican background still predominates big of course, and a large, solid majority of them and all the other Hispanic groups except Cuban and S.Am. still vote Democratic. Turnout increased by 30% in 2020, and Hispanics were big in electing Biden.

Cuban and South American backgrounds, though much fewer nationally, still predominate in FL, still vote Republican more, and made that critical difference in throwing FL to Republicans in 2020. GOTV among them was problematic for us.

Jarqui

(10,110 posts)
5. It's the same reason a lot of MAGAts support Republicans and Trump
Fri May 26, 2023, 05:01 AM
May 2023

They're lied to and there is no reliable media in their sphere to expose the lies.

FBaggins

(26,697 posts)
7. How many Hispanics who are US citizens *care* about what the president of Mexico wants?
Fri May 26, 2023, 07:37 AM
May 2023

Plenty of reasons to vote against this guy... but this isn't one of them.

I prefer the Newsome/DeSantis feud - where both are trying to keep their citizens from moving to the other state and convince their own to stay put. What kind of executive makes a stink about someone trying to keep his own citizens from leaving?

Last year, 58 percent of the state’s Hispanic voters swung toward DeSantis in his reelection campaign

I guess the answer is "not that many"

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
11. Yes. About time leaders of the world spoke about American fascism.
Fri May 26, 2023, 09:41 AM
May 2023

Fuck the sovereign nation diplomatic protocol, this is Fascism 2.0, and Nazi Germany 2.0 may have nukes if goes much further.

The world is under existential threat from America, federal and in many of its 50 nation states.

Response to jgo (Original post)

cstanleytech

(26,087 posts)
17. I wonder if a poorly funded education system might be one.of the reasons we see so many
Fri May 26, 2023, 12:26 PM
May 2023

Republican led states.
It would certainly explain why the Republicans in power in those states as well as those in office at the Federal level are against a good education.

IronLionZion

(45,269 posts)
18. GOP has done tons of Spanish language radio in Florida
Fri May 26, 2023, 10:59 PM
May 2023

it brainwashes people similarly to conservative hate radio in other states

OldBaldy1701E

(4,973 posts)
19. I suspect that 'machismo' has something to do with it.
Sat May 27, 2023, 07:26 AM
May 2023

After all, the rethug line is one of MANLY men who do MANLY things and are MANLY in appearance. They do NOT truck with any males who have long hair (except the ones who are MANLY) or who wear anything but jeans and cowboy hats. It is no wonder that plenty of Hispanics in this country are falling for that crap. They buy into it.

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