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riversedge

(70,192 posts)
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:02 PM May 2023

McCarthy suggests new commission could look at Social Security and Medicare cuts

Source: raw story




Sarah K. Burris May 31, 2023, 4:01 PM ET


House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) announced Wednesday he was launching a commission tasked with looking at budget cuts – and he suggested Social Security and Medicare could come under his scalpel.

His pledge came just months after vowing such cuts to mandatory spending programs were off the table.

In February, President Joe Biden spoke before a joint session of Congress, telling Americans the GOP wanted to cut the programs they had paid into their whole lives. "Instead of making the wealthy pay their fair share, some Republicans want Medicare and Social Security to sunset every five years," he said.

"That means those programs will go away if Congress doesn’t vote to keep them. Other Republicans say if we don’t cut Social Security and Medicare, they’ll let America default on its debt for the first time in our history."


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McCarthy told Fox host Harris Faulkner that only 11 percent of the budget could be negotiated during the debt ceiling talks because Biden had "walled off" parts of it – including the part that included discretionary spending programs.

Now, he said, "We have to look at the entire budget."




Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/kevin-mccarthy-social-security-commission/









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McCarthy suggests new commission could look at Social Security and Medicare cuts (Original Post) riversedge May 2023 OP
Put your name on it Kevin. JohnnyRingo May 2023 #1
Yes, that's always such a winning political PatSeg May 2023 #22
He already lost his mind a while back. ShazzieB May 2023 #36
It is hard to believe that the speakership PatSeg May 2023 #39
I don't know how, but its almost like newdayneeded Jun 2023 #63
Yes, you'd think so PatSeg Jun 2023 #65
Wrong move.......... Lovie777 May 2023 #2
Kevvo is in so far over his head it's laughable. NoMoreRepugs May 2023 #3
But then he has $90 million+ in swamp loot, so I doubt it keeps him up at night peppertree May 2023 #28
Republicans talking about cuts to SS & Medicare just before the 2024 election rurallib May 2023 #4
"I couldn't have come up with a better idea for them" speak easy May 2023 #6
Here's the secret plan, revealed: AZ8theist Jun 2023 #57
They also think banning abortion is a winning issue. sarcasmo Jun 2023 #71
And the GOP stumbles into the most unpopular proposals of all. speak easy May 2023 #5
Biden crafted this compromise none of us really want, Mr.Bill May 2023 #20
Biden looks like a genius to me. Justice Jun 2023 #56
Nah, that's just his years of Senate experience. Not to say that Biden isn't smart Trailrider1951 Jun 2023 #64
YES! Trenzalore May 2023 #7
YES! - Shout it loud and Proud! speak easy May 2023 #9
And by all means, Mr.Bill May 2023 #23
Please proceed... assface. kysrsoze May 2023 #8
I have some childhood friends in the South. AnnaLee May 2023 #10
Stupid is as stupid does SouthernDem4ever May 2023 #14
Oh the RWNJ dad of a friend since elementary school Trenzalore May 2023 #17
Wow, that is really pathetic PatSeg May 2023 #24
Poor dumb Kevin.. agingdem May 2023 #11
I say f**K him, preferably with something sharp! nt CaliforniaPeggy May 2023 #12
Yes! And repeatedly I_UndergroundPanther May 2023 #48
Their most reliable voters are those over 60 tinrobot May 2023 #13
They are counting on Fux nooze and Co to keep them stupid and pliable. SouthernDem4ever May 2023 #15
And, it will probably work. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jun 2023 #61
I have been wondering something. AnnaLee May 2023 #26
You're right about the younger voters being informed and smart. ShazzieB May 2023 #38
You can look at cuts all you want, Kev. sarcasmo May 2023 #16
So stupid. So weak. He's just trying to appease MTG and Gaetz... brush May 2023 #18
Why aren't his voters screaming bloody murder over this? FakeNoose May 2023 #19
Don't cha know,no Republicans are retired and on SS,Medicare or use the ACA Bengus81 May 2023 #35
You have to hand it to President Biden Trenzalore May 2023 #21
i had a long talk w my social security advisor about this very issue AllaN01Bear May 2023 #25
Well, Reagan (and a majority-Democratic Congress) did in the 1980's by raising progree May 2023 #37
Spread that far and wide. What a dumb ass. onecaliberal May 2023 #27
Good issue for us to defeat them in the next election IronLionZion May 2023 #29
nothin burger. nt ImNotGod May 2023 #30
Do it NOW Kevvy! democratsruletheday May 2023 #31
Republicans committing political suicide Mysterian May 2023 #32
They do shout it from the mountaintops, so to speak ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #52
Ad time BumRushDaShow May 2023 #33
Great platform Kevin!! Take away social security,no one will care!! Bengus81 May 2023 #34
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #40
murphyb ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #53
More amputations, that'll be popular bucolic_frolic May 2023 #41
Truth is the debt ceiling agreement is actually a 2 year budget Deminpenn May 2023 #42
MAGA Kevin grab that 3rd Rail with both hands. kairos12 May 2023 #43
How about Traildogbob May 2023 #44
Try it and some scalpel work will be done on McCarthy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2023 #45
Fuck Kevin McCarthy! stage left May 2023 #46
Hay, give McCarthy Credit, he's helping our cause politically & would go nowhere anyway! NowsTheTime May 2023 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Jun 2023 #49
Repeal the Trump tax cuts dalton99a Jun 2023 #50
Democrats need to spread this information far and wide. Maraya1969 Jun 2023 #51
The Democrats do spread the information ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #54
I mean spread around with TV ads and other media Maraya1969 Jun 2023 #59
A dog &pony show, to keep the freedumb housepets from pissing on the carpet. Mopar151 Jun 2023 #55
Republicans have no ideas to help people AllyCat Jun 2023 #58
The extremists in his party are making him do this as a condition for not removing him. lark Jun 2023 #60
Kevin's a charmer. 🐍 usonian Jun 2023 #62
Thanks idiot for the free TV ads! GreenWave Jun 2023 #66
Hope Dems come out with proposing commisions on SS and Medicare expansions harun Jun 2023 #67
Get the rich to PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE ! Firestorm49 Jun 2023 #68
Roll back the freaking revenue cuts to 2000 levels and add a higher cut off on JCMach1 Jun 2023 #69
How to lose the Senior Citizen vote by Kevin McCarthy. sarcasmo Jun 2023 #70
A sop to his hard-right wingers. Like Kevin's future, its going nowhere! machoneman Jun 2023 #72

ShazzieB

(16,370 posts)
36. He already lost his mind a while back.
Wed May 31, 2023, 07:08 PM
May 2023

When he sold his soul, his spine, and...other things for the speakership. Oops!

PatSeg

(47,405 posts)
39. It is hard to believe that the speakership
Wed May 31, 2023, 07:15 PM
May 2023

was THAT important to him. Obviously nothing good will ever come of it and I expect that down the road he will rue the day he sold his soul for the position. However, he just might show up in the history books - his grandchildren will be so proud.

newdayneeded

(1,955 posts)
63. I don't know how, but its almost like
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 10:09 AM
Jun 2023

it should be illegal or disqualifying the way he so compromised himself.

PatSeg

(47,405 posts)
65. Yes, you'd think so
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 11:16 AM
Jun 2023

There is nothing subtle about it at all. If nothing else it should be political suicide, but then again, I never understood how he got so far.

peppertree

(21,624 posts)
28. But then he has $90 million+ in swamp loot, so I doubt it keeps him up at night
Wed May 31, 2023, 06:10 PM
May 2023

Having relatives in the MIC is always a good investment strategy.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
4. Republicans talking about cuts to SS & Medicare just before the 2024 election
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:09 PM
May 2023

BRILLIANT! I couldn't have come up with a better idea for them just before an election if I tried.

speak easy

(9,239 posts)
6. "I couldn't have come up with a better idea for them"
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:13 PM
May 2023

Neither could I! Please proceed, dummkopfs [stupid heads].

speak easy

(9,239 posts)
5. And the GOP stumbles into the most unpopular proposals of all.
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:11 PM
May 2023

Maybe Joe Biden is not a genius. Maybe. But from the beginning of the debt ceiling negotiations, Social Security and Medicare were off the table. Now that the deal is done, a punch drunk GOP is staggering towards utter stupidity. Well played, Mr. President, Sir. Well played.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
20. Biden crafted this compromise none of us really want,
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:23 PM
May 2023

but he did it in such a way that it leaves the republicans fractured if not at each other's throats.

Brilliant.

I think by November 2024 McCarthy may have trouble holding on to his seat. Not the Speaker's seat, his Congressional seat. If a Democrat can't win in that district, I could see him being primaried.

Trailrider1951

(3,414 posts)
64. Nah, that's just his years of Senate experience. Not to say that Biden isn't smart
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 10:26 AM
Jun 2023

it's just that little Kevin is woefully outmatched. Do not EVER underestimate Dark Brandon!

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
7. YES!
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:14 PM
May 2023

Republicans, please say you want to cut social security and medicare. Even your Dotard Presidential frontrunner knows that is a losing proposition.

AnnaLee

(1,035 posts)
10. I have some childhood friends in the South.
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:16 PM
May 2023

Whenever the Republicans start threatening SS and Medicare, they start sharing memes about the Democratic party (or various members of the party) threatening SS and/or Medicare and how the Republicans are setting up a commission to stop the Democratic raid of the programs. It doesn't matter if you directly quote who and what and where the threat actually is coming from. Facts make them mad.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
17. Oh the RWNJ dad of a friend since elementary school
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:21 PM
May 2023

Post the meme about the President not guaranteeing social security and Medicare during every debt ceiling/budget fight since Facebook started. Was quiet during the Trump years with it but it comes up again like clockwork over and over with different pictures each time we have one of these.

I'd block him, but his daughter and I virtually grew up at each other's houses.

agingdem

(7,848 posts)
11. Poor dumb Kevin..
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:16 PM
May 2023

Last edited Wed May 31, 2023, 09:10 PM - Edit history (1)

so desperate to appease the asshole freedom caucus..how does Kev not get even white christian nationalist vermin over 65 are on Social Security and Medicare...they want to own the libs but don't touch their benefits...

AnnaLee

(1,035 posts)
26. I have been wondering something.
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:38 PM
May 2023

Do you think they believe some political mileage with the younger voters could be made through manipulations of SS and Medicare that they sell as sharing the burden of funding the programs better by cutting the old and preserving the young from higher contributions. The problem, I think, is that my impression of the young today is that they are quite informed and very smart. I am not sure they can be fooled when the share of burden is still forgiven the rich.

Also George Bush did not succeed with his bull either.

ShazzieB

(16,370 posts)
38. You're right about the younger voters being informed and smart.
Wed May 31, 2023, 07:13 PM
May 2023

They are those things. Also, if most of them are anything like my daughter, they don't want their parents and grandparents used as sacrificial lambs to protect tax cuts for billionaires. Which, let's be real, is exactly what this would be!

brush

(53,767 posts)
18. So stupid. So weak. He's just trying to appease MTG and Gaetz...
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:22 PM
May 2023

because Joe Biden rolled him in the debt ceiling negotiations by not just getting it eliminated for now, but until 2025, meaning the rest of this presidential term.

Shut up, Kevin and go to your corner.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
19. Why aren't his voters screaming bloody murder over this?
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:22 PM
May 2023

Especially anyone who's already retired. But this really threatens all of us, not just those who are retired.



Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
35. Don't cha know,no Republicans are retired and on SS,Medicare or use the ACA
Wed May 31, 2023, 07:00 PM
May 2023

Nah...just freeloading Dems!!

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
21. You have to hand it to President Biden
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:23 PM
May 2023

He expertly painted the into a corner during the State of the Union address so this wasn't even something on the table for the debt ceiling

AllaN01Bear

(18,161 posts)
25. i had a long talk w my social security advisor about this very issue
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:30 PM
May 2023

THEY CANNOT TAKE AWAY YOUR BENIFITS . PERIOD.

progree

(10,901 posts)
37. Well, Reagan (and a majority-Democratic Congress) did in the 1980's by raising
Wed May 31, 2023, 07:09 PM
May 2023

the retirement age, and taxing Social Security benefits for the first time. Those are inarguably benefit cuts.

==================================

The SS and Medicare Trustees signed a report saying that it will not be able to pay full benefits after trust fund depletion....
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142927989

The Trustees are 4 top Biden administration officials including Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen.

The then current SS and Medicare Trustees have been signing reports saying the same thing every year for decades. Congress must act to prevent those cuts from occurring on trust fund depletion. That is the harsh reality of the situation.

IronLionZion

(45,430 posts)
29. Good issue for us to defeat them in the next election
Wed May 31, 2023, 06:10 PM
May 2023

There was a time when these programs were considered untouchable.

Mysterian

(4,585 posts)
32. Republicans committing political suicide
Wed May 31, 2023, 06:44 PM
May 2023

Great to see it.

Democrats better be shouting about PukeCarthy's commission from the mountaintops.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
52. They do shout it from the mountaintops, so to speak
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 12:48 AM
Jun 2023

But ask yourself when the media will give them the platform to be heard?

It's like the tree in the forest. It falls down, but if no human is there to record it, nobody but the animals nearby knows that it made that sound of falling.

BumRushDaShow

(128,871 posts)
33. Ad time
Wed May 31, 2023, 06:50 PM
May 2023

and that means anyone up in the Senate too.

No matter what chamber, tie every single one of the GOP contenders to him.

People might recall this effective ad about a similar subject when Ryan was touted as the GOP's "budget wonk" -

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
53. murphyb
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 12:50 AM
Jun 2023

Can STFU about that "actual" christian BS. They're all christians, and saying they're not is the height of hateful bigotry.

bucolic_frolic

(43,133 posts)
41. More amputations, that'll be popular
Wed May 31, 2023, 07:34 PM
May 2023
Burn the books, ban free choice, purge the voters, strangulate Social Security, and castrate Medicare.

Rich people need your money!

Deminpenn

(15,278 posts)
42. Truth is the debt ceiling agreement is actually a 2 year budget
Wed May 31, 2023, 07:41 PM
May 2023

agreement. I'm sure McCarthy knows this, so any commission would be just for show. He probably knows he'll get no serious legislation passed without Dem votes, too.

Traildogbob

(8,716 posts)
44. How about
Wed May 31, 2023, 08:08 PM
May 2023

A commission looking at cutting Senate, Congress and Presidential entitlements. Our taxes will be paying Melanoma for decades to come. For WHAT? We worked for our SS and Medicare. What the Fuck did she or other gubment Political spouses contribute or work for?
Fuck you Kev!!!

NowsTheTime

(685 posts)
47. Hay, give McCarthy Credit, he's helping our cause politically & would go nowhere anyway!
Wed May 31, 2023, 10:39 PM
May 2023

.......He's a real nowhere man ...

Response to riversedge (Original post)

Maraya1969

(22,478 posts)
51. Democrats need to spread this information far and wide.
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 12:38 AM
Jun 2023

I bet most people that vote have no idea what their representatives do.

I bet the Lincoln group could created a wild one that can be used over and over.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
54. The Democrats do spread the information
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 12:53 AM
Jun 2023

It's not their fault that the traitor media give them so little air time/print to spread it as far and wide as possible.

It would be great if people would start there, rather than blaming the Democrats for everything.

Maraya1969

(22,478 posts)
59. I mean spread around with TV ads and other media
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 08:29 AM
Jun 2023

like billboards or even on Youtube which makes you watch too many ads before you can actually watch the video that you want. Youtube is a great place to advertise IMO


Remember what the Russians did. They set up tons of fake "news organizations" websites before 2016. I made the mistake and posted one item here it was almost immediately taken down. The thing is that I had already done a Google search and all of those websites were repeating the same thing - lies about Hillary and the Dems. I fell into the trap.

I am not saying that all websites spread lies but at that time they had taken over Google as far as I could see. Although it does seem like Google has done their work since then because I think all those sites are down.

Mopar151

(9,980 posts)
55. A dog &pony show, to keep the freedumb housepets from pissing on the carpet.
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 12:59 AM
Jun 2023

Can be especially useful if , when calculating the "savings", the commission is required to show the 5 year and 20year projections of effectiveness and COST.for the federal budget, and the US economy 🤔

AllyCat

(16,178 posts)
58. Republicans have no ideas to help people
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 08:05 AM
Jun 2023

And their ideas to help the rich come from the rich. They have no ideas of their own. Ever.

lark

(23,094 posts)
60. The extremists in his party are making him do this as a condition for not removing him.
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 08:37 AM
Jun 2023

That's what I think is happening. This is actually a gift to Dems and is a really stupid move on the part of the christofascists.

harun

(11,348 posts)
67. Hope Dems come out with proposing commisions on SS and Medicare expansions
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 12:07 PM
Jun 2023

SS to expand to include supplemental income for those in need and phased out of jobs by AI and automation.

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
69. Roll back the freaking revenue cuts to 2000 levels and add a higher cut off on
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 06:11 AM
Jun 2023

Soc. Sec. Taxes.

There, fixed it for you.

Then tax corps in a legit way and rebuild education and setup a single payer health insurance.

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