Schumer pushes debt ceiling through Senate with sleight of hand to doom conservative delay tactics

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Source: New York Daily News

Majority Leader Chuck Schumer on Thursday pulled procedural tricks out of his hat in an effort to short circuit right-wing stall tactics and rush the debt ceiling increase through the Senate.

Facing a Monday deadline, the New York Democrat started the clock ticking to a final passage within minutes after the House passed the bill to avert a national default, a move that shaves 24 hours off the potential delay time.

“The Senate will stay in session until we send a bill avoiding default to President Biden’s desk,” Schumer said Thursday. “We will keep working until the job is done.”

Schumer pulled a fast one on GOP malcontents by keeping the Senate officially in session all evening Wednesday.

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/schumer-pushes-debt-ceiling-senate-193700016.html

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Tough luck Free Dumb Caucus.

[BumRushDaShow]

1. Right now they are debating

and voting on a flurry of amendments with a very short time for debate for each (like a minute for a statement). It looks like they have a Rule that requires 60 votes needed to approve an amendment, which would mean that probably none of them will succeed.

[BOSSHOG]

2. So sad this crap has to go on.

Evil people wanting to harm fellow citizens by bargaining when bargaining isn’t called for.

End the debt ceiling nonsense

End the electoral college nonsense

End the separation of church and state nonsense

[hay rick]

3. I think you mean enforce the separation of church and state. nt

[BOSSHOG]

8. I prefer

Doing away with the separation of church and state. Let’s turn loose the assessors and find out what the bishops really value. If churches want to codify religious beliefs as Kansas Catholics did last summer with more then 4 mil in tax exempt money, with not a hint of aforementioned enforcement of separation then the Catholic Church can pay to play or stay the hell out of the states business.

With religious organizations and the gop using each other to advance politically I see no path for enforcement. Sadly the same applies to my solution for the same reason. Woe is us.

Fighting evil is 24/7. And part of the evil enemy of freedom I see is wearing a mitre.

[Phoenix61]

23. That "electoral nonsense" is baked into the constitution.

It would take an amendment to change it.

[BOSSHOG]

29. The electoral college

Was devised by slave owners to benefit slave owners. It begs for an amendment. And republicans can’t figure out if they are for or against states rights. Whatever fits their chicanery de jour.

[Phoenix61]

30. Splitting the votes is an option that doesn't take amendment. nt

[Cha]

4. Under Senate rules, that move allowed him to start the clock

running toward a vote as soon as the House passed the measure in a bipartisan 314-117 vote before the clock struck midnight instead of Thursday morning.

Congress is racing to wrap up the package to ensure the government can keep paying its bills, and avert what could have been a global financial crisis.

The Treasury says it will run out of cash as soon as Monday, a tight deadline that forces Schumer to pull out all the legislative tricks to get a bill passed and sent to President Joe Biden’s desk by then.

Ty & Sen Schumer!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/schumer-pushes-debt-ceiling-senate-193700016.html

[ananda]

5. It's good when our guys know the rules.

Pelosi was good at that too.

[BumRushDaShow]

7. The Senate has a big book of them!

https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/GPO-RIDDICK-1992/GPO-RIDDICK-1992-1/context

[markodochartaigh]

13. I thought that it was

this one:

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/chronicles_of_riddick

[BumRushDaShow]

14. That is a

DUzy!

[llmart]

19. Yes, and this is why we should stop...

talking about how someone may be too old or in office too long to be useful. Our culture doesn't value experience and wisdom as much as they should. Biden and Schumer are two examples of people who know the ropes of how government works and they're using that knowledge to own the Gop'ers.

[BumRushDaShow]

20. Yup and

people keep forgetting that Biden was a Senator for 35 years before becoming VP and if he had still been in there, he would be the most "senior" (in terms of number of years served) there - well beyond Assley (elected 8 years after) or Turtle (elected 12 years after), and would have been the Pro Tempore (which is the position that Senator Patty Murray now has, who was elected 20 years after).

[LiberalFighter]

6. Good move.

[RussBLib]

9. I can hear the howling from the right

Like the wolves they are.

[LiberalFighter]

10. This is why term limits is a bad idea.

It takes time to learn the ins and outs of procedures to get the job done. Senator Schumer has been in Congress since 1980 and a Senator for the last 24 years. It is the reason former Speaker Pelosi did a great job.

[betsuni]

11. The term limit thing is based on the belief that government work is 100% corrupting so you

have to get new pure innocent butts in the seats until they start to learn the job, but this corrupts them so out they go. It's silly, in my opinion.

[spooky3]

27. Pure innocent butts like Santos, for example. :-)

[crickets]

12. +1000000

[oldsoftie]

17. Term limits are a GOOD idea; just dont make the term too low.

Limiting a Senator to 4 terms ( 24 years) would hardly prevent someone from learning the ropes & intricacies. Likewise for the House; 12-14 years is plenty. We were never supposed to have career politicians.
NO ONE tries to realistically attack the Nat Debt. We need people that WILL do it. Get RID of it? Of course not. Even if it were possible, it would actually be detrimental to the govt to be "debt free". But we have yet again, kicked the can down the road whether anyone wants to admit it or not. And we are at a dangerous level of debt & its going to get worse every year.
And every single Senator or Representative, will at some point,"go into business for themselves" as the saying goes. Its just a question of how much. Sweetheart loopholes, sweetheart allowances, sweetheart regulations, etc etc. It all means the same.

80% of the American people want term limits. Its almost the most agreed upon time in any questionnaire. Along with lowering the Debt.

[LiberalFighter]

18. And 80% of the American people don't know how the government function.

[Emile]

31. We already have term limits, it's called elections. We should stop

worrying about term limits and be more concerned with jerrymandering.

[oldsoftie]

32. There is no gerrymandering of the Senate

And you know as well as I do about the power of incumbency.
This is the ONE topic almost ALL Americans agree on. These people get into office, get richer and never leave.

[Emile]

33. But there is in Congress and look who is the majority.

[oldsoftie]

34. And that swings back & forth. Term limits would get rid of some

Will dominance ever come back? I have NO idea. But term limits would certainly get rid of the MTGs, the Bohberts, Geatz, Gohmert, etc of the House at some point. MTG is in a district where the only way she'll ever leave is if people tire of her or SHE decides. Dont know about those others. But the longer they stay, the more seniority & power they get. Let their time run out. Do we want to see Greene as Speaker? NO

[Emile]

35. We just have to agree to disagree.

[yardwork]

36. Gerrymandering does affect statewide and national races.

Gerrymandering creates a chilling effect on turnout. I'm in North Carolina, a horribly gerrymandered state. The blue cities are carved up into districts that have lots of rural, red areas. As a result, Democrats in many parts of the state have essentially no representation. Imagine what it's like to live in a very progressive community but be represented by extreme right wingers. Madison Cawthorn represented much of Asheville, for instance - and his replacement is just as right-wing.

Why turn out to vote if your local representative is guaranteed to be somebody you abhor? By depressing turnout among Democrats, the Republicans get the majority of voters for the statewide races as well.

This happened in 2022 in NC. Low turnout in Democratic precincts doomed the Democratic senate candidate and the state Supreme Court.

Gerrymandering hurts all races because of depressed turnout.

[Tommy Carcetti]

22. Term limits are forever a double edged sword.

It might keep the bad in extra long, but also keeps the good in as well.

I honestly think people only favor term limits for members of the party they don't belong to.

[LiberalFighter]

26. And mostly for members that are not in their state or district.

[Hekate]

25. Amen, and Amen again

I wish Californians had never fallen for that scam. The only people with institutional memory are lobbyists — whom nobody voted in to Sacramento, and nobody can vote out.

[honest.abe]

15. Way to go Chuck!

[Deminpenn]

16. Remember, Thursday is generally the last work day of the

Congressional week. Most, if not all, Senators were eager to leave for the weekend. I'm sure that motivated quick action, too.

[myohmy2]

21. good one, Chuck...

"Schumer pulled a fast one on GOP malcontents..."

...they must have gotten confused...

[liberalla]

24. Good job Chuck! and Thanks!

[onetexan]

28. Ditto