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LetMyPeopleVote

(144,908 posts)
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 10:58 AM Jun 2023

Trump's lawyers meet with Justice Department officials following complaints about special counsel pr

Source: CNN

Lawyers for former President Donald Trump are meeting with Justice Department officials on Monday following a public request for a meeting about what they characterize as prosecutorial misconduct, according to sources familiar with the matter.

The meeting comes as the special counsel’s investigation into Trump’s handling of classified documents and possible obstruction appears to nearing its final stages.

While Trump’s team had publicly asked to meet with Attorney General Merrick Garland, he is not believed to be in the meeting.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/05/politics/trump-attorneys-justice-department/index.html




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Trump's lawyers meet with Justice Department officials following complaints about special counsel pr (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 OP
Just saw the breaking banner on this... BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #1
I saw that the Grand Jury also meets on Thursdays and Friday also LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #3
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #2
I would have a hard time getting into a deal to keep the buffoon out of jail, but... Escurumbele Jun 2023 #14
Some of that needs to be set aside for the state of NY BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #27
Why pay back $250MM to the idiots who donated? Pay it to the US treasury and let those idiots erronis Jun 2023 #35
What would be the point of a "noncustodial sentence" in return for a guilty plea? hlthe2b Jun 2023 #19
Oh please let this be true. Botany Jun 2023 #4
Opening paragraph seems to imply that the meeting is in response to Trump's request... thesquanderer Jun 2023 #5
thank you. seemed like sloppy reporting to me as well, after reading comments. msfiddlestix Jun 2023 #38
Might be nothing.... getagrip_already Jun 2023 #6
Fuck the Slobfatherand his lawyers malaise Jun 2023 #7
Exactly. They and trump can fuck off. ancianita Jun 2023 #33
CBS News' cameras caught former President Trump's lawyers arriving at the Justice Department, LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #8
Tell the perp where he can turn himself in and avoid having his door kicked Kennah Jun 2023 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author kabi knit Jun 2023 #10
My bet is they are going to make a deal so no prison time. JohnSJ Jun 2023 #11
I would love to know what conditions they would impose as a condition brer cat Jun 2023 #16
I would hope if there is a plea deal that admission of guilt is part of any deal, along with a JohnSJ Jun 2023 #22
I can't see trump admitting guilt, but I'm sure he will find a way to spin brer cat Jun 2023 #26
Keith Olbermann's podcast last night he went into the history of plea deals ZonkerHarris Jun 2023 #12
Unfortunately it is usually the low level people that usually pay the steeper price for the wrong JohnSJ Jun 2023 #23
They are not discussing plea deals. LudwigPastorius Jun 2023 #31
Trump never had a security clearance, so nothing to lose there. erronis Jun 2023 #36
Last minute begging, crying and groveling by trump the his intermediaries Fullduplexxx Jun 2023 #13
Two Hour Meeting. AG Garland was not part of this meeting LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #15
wow that Lindsey Halligan is a mess. Grasswire2 Jun 2023 #21
She's not on the registry of Slovenian sex worker anchor babies... rubbersole Jun 2023 #24
Wow, they all need better tailors! tavernier Jun 2023 #25
no kidding Grasswire2 Jun 2023 #28
But she does look like "his type" tavernier Jun 2023 #30
I don't think DOJ will negotiate a plea deal this early. Jack isn't about to accept that when flying_wahini Jun 2023 #17
2 hours. consistent w/ a genuine discussion..also consistent w/ a no deal. LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #18
His attorney lied to the DoJ about not having anymore doc's. after supposed searched. republianmushroom Jun 2023 #20
TFG knows he can't win in court, so he will play his "victim card" to the public. Again. Midnight Writer Jun 2023 #29
The parade of nonsense is going to be intense. LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #44
28 months and counting republianmushroom Jun 2023 #32
Ha, they have nothing, I'm certain. TickTock M*F*ckers. Joinfortmill Jun 2023 #34
Life behind bars James48 Jun 2023 #37
Well he doesn't or will not have "two" many options left turbinetree Jun 2023 #39
Trump is screwed xabriel Jun 2023 #40
Please deal? No jail time..... getagrip_already Jun 2023 #41
Trump lawyers ask DOJ not to indict during meeting: report riversedge Jun 2023 #42
Neal Katyal-we are at the end of the Mar-a-Lago piece of the Jack Smith investigation. LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #43

BumRushDaShow

(128,413 posts)
1. Just saw the breaking banner on this...
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 11:03 AM
Jun 2023

Another witness is an interesting revelation. Wonder if it has to do with the "recordings".

I *think* that grand jury meets on Thursdays and Fridays.

Escurumbele

(3,374 posts)
14. I would have a hard time getting into a deal to keep the buffoon out of jail, but...
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:21 PM
Jun 2023

If I have to, this is my deal:

1. Home arrest, cannot go out unsupervised.
2. He signs a deal where he gives up his right to run for any public office.
3. He will not hold rallies for himself or anyone else.
4. TV interviews are out of the question. Books or articles are also out of the question. In other words, he is prohibited from spewing his lies and hate to the country.
5. Twitter and whatever the name of his failed thing is cannot be used for political purposes.
6. He will pay back $250,000,000.00 to the idiots who donated money to him.
7. A bailout fee of $1 billion will be required to keep him out of jail.
8. He will wear, 24/7, am ankle monitor for the rest of his lousy life.
9. He will report to the authorities once a month and if he fails to do so every two weeks and if he misses any, every week, and if he continues to miss any, every day.
10. He will do community service once a week at a homeless place giving food.
11. Sell all his planes and helicopters because his only way to fly must be on commercial airlines accompanied by security, and he will be paying for security personnel's travel expenses.

I can think of many others, but I think this would keep him busy and upset for the rest of his life, plus not hearing from him until the day he departs to hell is good enough.

erronis

(15,174 posts)
35. Why pay back $250MM to the idiots who donated? Pay it to the US treasury and let those idiots
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 01:39 PM
Jun 2023

maybe learn a lesson. No give-backs.

Add in no external communications (internet, mail, smoke signals, etc.) without going through a gatekeeper (that would be a horrible job.)

hlthe2b

(102,116 posts)
19. What would be the point of a "noncustodial sentence" in return for a guilty plea?
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:31 PM
Jun 2023

It will only feed his BS rhetoric, provide zero deterrence and send the worst message anyone could send in terms of our security. No country would rationally want to share any security data with us. Our CIA and other agents/assets would be sent the message that we can't/won't protect them. Why would any of our own elect to put themselves at risk of being identified by foreign agents tasked with removing our assets and why would they seek to try to convince others to help our side?

This would be the most insane act, DOJ could do.

Botany

(70,444 posts)
4. Oh please let this be true.
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 11:07 AM
Jun 2023

Glenn Kirschner, Good sign: if Jack Smith had decided against charging Trump, there would be no need for this meeting.

thesquanderer

(11,971 posts)
5. Opening paragraph seems to imply that the meeting is in response to Trump's request...
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 11:26 AM
Jun 2023

...but, related to other comments here, it seems like it might just be what would happen at this point in the investigation anyway. It's sloppily written. The "according to sources familiar with the matter" part may just refer to the meeting itself, and not to the implication of what prompted it, which may or may not be relevant to the meeting itself.

msfiddlestix

(7,270 posts)
38. thank you. seemed like sloppy reporting to me as well, after reading comments.
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 02:29 PM
Jun 2023

the procedure seems to be rather common practice. And itt matters because falsely implying the significance of an event or rather describing an event as being one thing, when it is a common practice is quite a significant distinction with a difference.

Of course the defendant wants to spin this in a manner he can make political hay, but reporters should not be obliged to frame it that when they know, or should know differently. Reporters on that beat ought to know better, one should think.



getagrip_already

(14,616 posts)
6. Might be nothing....
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 11:29 AM
Jun 2023

Trumps lawyers have been trying to meet with doj for weeks.

This ploy may be the one, limited, case where the doj hears them out.

It doesn't mean they will discuss anything substantative. They may just listen and take notes. But they can't just ignore a claim of misconduct.

They will hear it, investigate, and find nothing.

ancianita

(35,929 posts)
33. Exactly. They and trump can fuck off.
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 01:19 PM
Jun 2023

ALL prosecutors of Trump weaponize the "misconduct" label in 'rule of men' land.

"Special" Counsel is labeled 'special' for rule of law reasons.

Response to Kennah (Reply #9)

brer cat

(24,522 posts)
16. I would love to know what conditions they would impose as a condition
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:26 PM
Jun 2023

of a plea deal w/ no prison time. I can't imagine trump taking many.

JohnSJ

(92,060 posts)
22. I would hope if there is a plea deal that admission of guilt is part of any deal, along with a
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:53 PM
Jun 2023

requirement not to make any public statements how “unfair”, such a deal toward him would be.



brer cat

(24,522 posts)
26. I can't see trump admitting guilt, but I'm sure he will find a way to spin
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 01:00 PM
Jun 2023

so it doesn't appear to be true. I think the only way they will get him to plead guilty is if he is convinced that he faces prison. Don't know if he is that aware or not.

ZonkerHarris

(24,204 posts)
12. Keith Olbermann's podcast last night he went into the history of plea deals
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:12 PM
Jun 2023

offered to high level government officials after security breaches.
It seems the high level guys get off fairly easy With probation and the loss of their security clearance while the low level people are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law
Is today the day they offer him a plea deal? Who knows

JohnSJ

(92,060 posts)
23. Unfortunately it is usually the low level people that usually pay the steeper price for the wrong
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:56 PM
Jun 2023

doing committed by their superiors

tavernier

(12,368 posts)
25. Wow, they all need better tailors!
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:59 PM
Jun 2023

At least Malibu Barbie and Beergut Ken. Or stop buying clothes at Walmart.

flying_wahini

(6,577 posts)
17. I don't think DOJ will negotiate a plea deal this early. Jack isn't about to accept that when
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:29 PM
Jun 2023

He is holding ALL the cards. Why would he?
If anything he is adding to the growing stack of charges. DOJ knows where the bodies (docs)
are buried and is about to do a hard squeeze some nuts. (Provided he can find any)

republianmushroom

(13,455 posts)
20. His attorney lied to the DoJ about not having anymore doc's. after supposed searched.
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:39 PM
Jun 2023

Last edited Mon Jun 5, 2023, 01:10 PM - Edit history (1)

Now they want a meeting "about what they characterize as prosecutorial misconduct,". The Irony of it

28 months and counting

republianmushroom

(13,455 posts)
32. 28 months and counting
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 01:12 PM
Jun 2023

His attorney lied to the DoJ about not having anymore doc's. after supposed searched.

Now they want a meeting "about what they characterize as prosecutorial misconduct,". The Irony of it

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
39. Well he doesn't or will not have "two" many options left
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 02:39 PM
Jun 2023

and instead of him wearing the presidential seal jacket maybe he should have one that says......I plead guilty....I am a traitor.....

getagrip_already

(14,616 posts)
41. Please deal? No jail time.....
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 03:38 PM
Jun 2023

Wagging jaws are saying trump may try to plead to a misdemeanor or if necessary a felony, WITH NO JAIL TIME.

Doj might just go for it.

No jail means nobody will believe this was serious. But we won't get a say one way or another.

riversedge

(70,057 posts)
42. Trump lawyers ask DOJ not to indict during meeting: report
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 03:43 PM
Jun 2023

And the answer is....................




Trump lawyers ask DOJ not to indict during meeting: report


https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-indictment-2660955960/



Travis Gettys June 5, 2023, 12:56 PM ET




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NEW The legal team of former US President Donald Trump, led by M. Evan Corcoran (C), along with Lindsey Halligan (L), James Trusty (Center-R), and Christ Kise (R) arrive at the Brooklyn Federal Courthouse. on September 20, 2022 in New York City. (Photo by Alex Kent/Getty Images)

Donald Trump's attorneys met with the Department of Justice to argue against a possible indictment.

The meeting Monday suggested that special counsel Jack Smith had nearly completed his investigation into Trump's mishandling of classified documents, although sources familiar with the probe say the special counsel has broadened his investigation of possible White House involvement in the Jan. 6 insurrection, reported the Wall Street Journal.

Sources told the Post the lawyers aimed "to argue against any indictment of the former president over his handling of classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago resort."

Trump lawyers John Rowley, James Trusty and Lindsey Halligan had requested a meeting with attorney general Merrick Garland ahead of a possible indictment, but neither he or deputy attorney general Lisa Monaco had been expected to attend Monday's meeting.
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