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trailmonkee

(2,681 posts)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:46 PM Nov 2012

Rubio: Maybe Earth was created in 7 days because ‘I’m not a scientist, man’

Source: raw story



ea party-backed Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) says that he’s not sure people will ever know if the Earth was created by God in just seven days because “it’s one of the great mysteries.”

In an interview published in the December issue of GQ magazine, Michael Hainey asked the potential 2016 presidential candidate how old he thought the Earth was.

“I’m not a scientist, man,” Rubio replied. “I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that’s a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States.”

“I’m not a scientist. I don’t think I’m qualified to answer a question like that. At the end of the day, I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all. I think parents should be able to teach their kids what their faith says, what science says.”

He added: “Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I’m not sure we’ll ever be able to answer that. It’s one of the great mysteries.”



Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/19/rubio-maybe-earth-was-created-in-7-days-because-im-not-a-scientist-man/



"...It’s one of the great mysteries" that's the best!

bwahahaaaaa


bwahahaaaaa
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Rubio: Maybe Earth was created in 7 days because ‘I’m not a scientist, man’ (Original Post) trailmonkee Nov 2012 OP
*facepalm* sakabatou Nov 2012 #1
Keep Rubio away from ANY political office. However, he plethoro Nov 2012 #133
It's a shame to see a coward in public like this. PerceptionManagement Nov 2012 #138
Oh dear Lord...it's only a mystery if you're a morAn... Volaris Nov 2012 #2
"The tides come in, the Tides go out...You can't explain this stuff" AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #3
Everything they do is memeworthy. ElboRuum Nov 2012 #39
I can't wait for them to come out with the FOX SCIENCE network... AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #43
Or a horror show sakabatou Nov 2012 #136
Don't forget "Constitutional Mustard" arcane1 Nov 2012 #44
is that brown or yellow? AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #47
Yellow, of course... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2012 #105
Oh, fuck. When did this happen?!?! ElboRuum Nov 2012 #50
"The word is 'muster' Denny...." 66 dmhlt Nov 2012 #129
I have a hard time passing Constitutional mustard. ElboRuum Nov 2012 #134
It's one of the great mysteries how a twerp like Rubio can gain power and be taken seriously byeya Nov 2012 #4
Well with that logic i guess he thinks the lalalu Nov 2012 #5
Have you ever lived in Florida? Or Illinois? Flat as bottom of an iron. ChairmanAgnostic Nov 2012 #27
LOL lalalu Nov 2012 #28
+1. I agree. Those pictures of earth taken from space were taken through circular lenses, so of progree Nov 2012 #36
space?????? rurallib Nov 2012 #60
Tell me about it! The grade on the side of my place is 45+ degrees. I'm scared to death, I tell you! freshwest Nov 2012 #68
nyah nyah! My grades were always Cs. Okay, except for those Ds. ChairmanAgnostic Nov 2012 #76
lmfao reusrename Nov 2012 #82
yup, and all the evidence to the contrary is just God testing us JI7 Nov 2012 #114
How do these nitwits get into a position of power or authority? AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #6
they get elected by other people just like them phantom power Nov 2012 #22
This idiot or that other idiot in Louisiana, Jindal, are Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #7
Remember the primaries? reusrename Nov 2012 #84
The Republican Primaries are 100% pure entertainment... Moostache Nov 2012 #102
These poo' bas tards jonthebru Nov 2012 #8
They, along with the Xtian Right, are responsible for the Idiocrazation of America. nt valerief Nov 2012 #11
Spelled "Rube-io" it seems! NRaleighLiberal Nov 2012 #9
Nor is he an expert on ANY of the bills on which he votes. valerief Nov 2012 #10
They didn't ask you how it was created, dumbfuck. Iggo Nov 2012 #12
Listen up, Americans. This idiot is in a position of power in your LuckyLib Nov 2012 #13
Unless he gets nailed sulphurdunn Nov 2012 #30
Obvious pandering is obvious SpartanDem Nov 2012 #14
Sure. Instead of teaching facts colorado_ufo Nov 2012 #15
Rubio may not think that he’s a scientist,... DonViejo Nov 2012 #16
So is that guy that said that the Big Bang Theory, Rozlee Nov 2012 #78
The GOP knows how to staff their committees! Losers,... DonViejo Nov 2012 #85
And that's scary! LongTomH Nov 2012 #107
So I guess they don't teach logic in law school AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #17
Or in Rubio-speak caraher Nov 2012 #20
What a great catch-all way to argue for the legitimacy of nonsense caraher Nov 2012 #18
republican template SariesNightly Nov 2012 #141
A revealing statement by the republican's pet minority. iemitsu Nov 2012 #19
Well frankly... dropboss11 Nov 2012 #21
One of the issues facing us is the depletion of "fossil fuels" jberryhill Nov 2012 #83
His answers are very relevant Lordquinton Nov 2012 #86
well, frankly, it certainly does. cali Nov 2012 #112
You mention education as one of the topics Rubio ought to be answering questions about iemitsu Nov 2012 #139
Oh, not this shit again! Suji to Seoul Nov 2012 #23
He should be eliminated from the presidential race based on his dumbfuckery beliefs. JRLeft Nov 2012 #24
Tio Tomas. 'nuf said. malachi Nov 2012 #25
What an asshole. jerseyjack Nov 2012 #26
Sorry --- jerseyjack Nov 2012 #29
And this is what you say when you're afraid to lose your base. truthisfreedom Nov 2012 #31
It's possible that it was created in 7 days. onehandle Nov 2012 #32
Republicans -- The Juggalo Party(tm) phantom power Nov 2012 #33
This subthread shall be devoted to the explanation of magnets. ElboRuum Nov 2012 #40
First you need to plug it in......... nt griloco Nov 2012 #54
As one of their prophets taught us... jtuck004 Nov 2012 #34
I had never seen that video before AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #69
Pls, Pls, Let Him get the Republican Nomination in 2016 dem in texas Nov 2012 #35
Pandering four years early for the jesus vote. sarcasmo Nov 2012 #37
Oh my God silhouete2 Nov 2012 #38
"a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all." BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #41
We are the aliens man Rambis Nov 2012 #42
To me, the part of his statement that is the most unnerving is eyewall Nov 2012 #45
+1 villager Nov 2012 #58
Republicans don't get it. Reality trumps fairy tales and unicorns and wishful thinking. Period. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #46
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the GOP's candidate for 2016. n/t eggplant Nov 2012 #48
Does anyone give a shit at the lunacy of some... santamargarita Nov 2012 #49
"I’m not a scientist, man" CheapShotArtist Nov 2012 #51
"I'm not a scientist, man" liberalmuse Nov 2012 #52
Well I'm not a scientist but I KNOW the earth WASN'T created in 7 days! Auntie Bush Nov 2012 #53
They should've asked him if the Earth is flat. nt CJCRANE Nov 2012 #55
I’m not a scientist, man - But I DID stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!!!!! benld74 Nov 2012 #56
Parents should be able to teach their children nitwit ideas without interference. olegramps Nov 2012 #57
"I’m not a scientist, man" handmade34 Nov 2012 #59
These people are to stupid to be allowed to reproduce Marrah_G Nov 2012 #61
I'm not a sicentist either, man Mz Pip Nov 2012 #62
He's right, he's not a scientist...he's a panderer. Rubio, stop using that credit card for personal louslobbs Nov 2012 #63
Carbon dating, baby. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #64
Now that is a problem.... WCGreen Nov 2012 #95
Where will it end? Won't anyone think of the children??? CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2012 #96
No one ever thinks of the children... WCGreen Nov 2012 #97
LOL ... Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #115
Not funny, scary. Up2Late Nov 2012 #65
Sounds like someone's trying to speak to the Republican base. ck4829 Nov 2012 #66
The Rube shows his true colors... SoapBox Nov 2012 #67
It's the rubber bands that I just can't get my head around.... WCGreen Nov 2012 #70
the humor never stops SariesNightly Nov 2012 #142
six days.... JustFiveMoreMinutes Nov 2012 #71
Exactly customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #118
Rubio's a fucking Catholic leftlibdem420 Nov 2012 #72
Are we even here? DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #73
I don't know, maaan. ck4829 Nov 2012 #75
fucking magnets, how do they work? frylock Nov 2012 #74
shhhh.. magnets are magic tape sent as proof miracles do exist... velcro too tomm2thumbs Nov 2012 #91
Jesus! Don't tell him how the moon got here! AlbertCat Nov 2012 #77
St. Augustine said: CreekDog Nov 2012 #79
He's clearly wrong. By the 7th day, God (who looks like us, if you are a male) had already finished. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #80
....and played nine holes of golf! LongTomH Nov 2012 #109
NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME. aquart Nov 2012 #81
He doesn't want to take a position because he doesn't want to anger the base. drm604 Nov 2012 #87
He's not a Senator, either, but he plays one in Congress...... lastlib Nov 2012 #88
He'll have 3 years to assemble more of these winners ahead of his assumed run for Prez tomm2thumbs Nov 2012 #89
As Stephanie Miller says Liberalynn Nov 2012 #90
You don't have to be scientist to have common sense. Third Doctor Nov 2012 #92
He may not be a scientist but.... The Dude Nov 2012 #93
What's even more a mystery is how rubio functions without a brain. nt Javaman Nov 2012 #94
2 plus 2 equals.....well, who knows? I'm not a mathematician IDemo Nov 2012 #98
Just because Rubio is not "a scientist".. does that have to make Cha Nov 2012 #99
Reads like some lines cut out of the script of "The Big Lebowski" Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #100
This isn't that bad. Hosnon Nov 2012 #101
You're also not a theologian, dude Nonhlanhla Nov 2012 #103
Thanks for this commentary LongTomH Nov 2012 #110
He's certainly no rocket scientist! LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #104
The real question... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2012 #106
Gee whiz wrath of medusa Nov 2012 #108
And "germs" is just a theory, man. ancianita Nov 2012 #111
It is an indictment of our society tabasco Nov 2012 #113
"I don’t think I’m qualified to answer a question like that" <---Damn right. Ash_F Nov 2012 #116
He's just pandering, he's a Catholic and the RCC actually considers Creationism heretical. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #117
well, believers mostly think God gave the example of what He did to form the galaxies, not sure it's Divine Discontent Nov 2012 #119
Earth was created in 7 days PatrynXX Nov 2012 #120
You're also not qualified to be a senator but that hasn't stopped you, has it? N/T BlueStater Nov 2012 #121
Arrogance: "*People* may never know, because *I* don't know." Beartracks Nov 2012 #122
Maybe we have gravity because the Earth sucks. JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #123
They wear ignorance like a badge of honor. gtar100 Nov 2012 #124
Rubio to English translation: merrily Nov 2012 #125
He's not a leader. A leader would support science, reality. He's a follower, corrupted by power. nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #126
A **rube** is a yokel, a dimwit. We can call him RUBEio from now on. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #127
Wow! That's a hard veer to the Right isn't it? lunatica Nov 2012 #128
The dope calls himself a Catholic. FlaGranny Nov 2012 #130
Yipee Marco BE10sCoach Nov 2012 #131
He thinks scientific literacy has "nothing to do with the GDP or economic growth." Overseas Nov 2012 #132
He hasn't seen TROPIC THUNDER: "Never go full retard." yurbud Nov 2012 #135
Yep, He's Running for President Alright .... YOHABLO Nov 2012 #137
only in america SariesNightly Nov 2012 #140
Science is not a theology. Scientific truths, while contingent, are 'true' regardless of individual Monk06 Nov 2012 #143
Who knows if the sun will rise tomorrow? I'm not a weatherman ksecus Nov 2012 #144
lol Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #145
I don't understand the problem. Pebbles and Bam-Bam had pet dinosaurs. Right?? retread Nov 2012 #146
I suspect... and I could be wrong, Quantess Nov 2012 #147
My father's favourite (mocking) phrase... rmarmion Nov 2012 #148
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #149
 

plethoro

(594 posts)
133. Keep Rubio away from ANY political office. However, he
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:21 AM
Nov 2012

could be a teacher at the George W. Bush School of Remedial Learning.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
2. Oh dear Lord...it's only a mystery if you're a morAn...
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:49 PM
Nov 2012

OR, if you want the VOTES of people who are. My bet is, Mr. Rubio is inclined to the latter.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
3. "The tides come in, the Tides go out...You can't explain this stuff"
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:51 PM
Nov 2012

He probably went to the same school Bill O'Reilly did.

ElboRuum

(4,717 posts)
39. Everything they do is memeworthy.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:49 PM
Nov 2012

From the Get A Brain! Morans! guy to BillO's you can't explain this stuff to the casting of asparagus, it's all comedy gold. The Republicans should just give up politics and go into internet meme production full time.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
43. I can't wait for them to come out with the FOX SCIENCE network...
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:58 PM
Nov 2012

Can you imagine? It will be almost like Comedy Central...

ElboRuum

(4,717 posts)
50. Oh, fuck. When did this happen?!?!
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:15 PM
Nov 2012

I missed one???!??! Link, please. This omission cannot be allowed to stand.

66 dmhlt

(1,941 posts)
129. "The word is 'muster' Denny...."
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:19 AM
Nov 2012

From a "Boston Legal" episode:

Denny Crane: How can you ban red meat?
Dominick Ryan: Well, they've got a whole campaign, they're going to go with it. They plan to promote Summersport as the seafood capital of the world.
Denny Crane: We're carnivores. When the pilgrims landed, first thing they did was eat a few Indians.
Dominick Ryan: [Shirley and Dominick stare at him] Is there anything we can do?
Shirley Schmidt: We'll get an immediate TRO.
Denny Crane: I'll argue it myself. Ban red meat. That cannot pass Constitutional mustard.
Shirley Schmidt: The word is "muster", Denny, but you're right, the law lacks condiments.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0402711/quotes
 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
4. It's one of the great mysteries how a twerp like Rubio can gain power and be taken seriously
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:51 PM
Nov 2012

by others in power.
It's a closed circuit, the DC greedheads-go-round, I suppose but the denial of 150 years of science is breath taking coming from a person exercising power over our lives.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
27. Have you ever lived in Florida? Or Illinois? Flat as bottom of an iron.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:20 PM
Nov 2012

Of course the earth is flat. Everywhere I look it is flat. Who am I to believe, my eyes or some scientist who uses words I can't spell and don't understand?

progree

(10,901 posts)
36. +1. I agree. Those pictures of earth taken from space were taken through circular lenses, so of
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:39 PM
Nov 2012

course the earth looks circular in these pictures.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
68. Tell me about it! The grade on the side of my place is 45+ degrees. I'm scared to death, I tell you!
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:56 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:49 PM - Edit history (1)

When I drive up the hills here, it feels like being in a recliner and my truck may do a back flip! That's why Gawd declared:

'Thou shalt make 4-wheel drive trucks!'

(It's written in my automobile bible, page 666.)

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
76. nyah nyah! My grades were always Cs. Okay, except for those Ds.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:14 PM
Nov 2012

and a couple . . ..never mind.

So there!

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
6. How do these nitwits get into a position of power or authority?
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:52 PM
Nov 2012

I mean really? What does that say about us as a nation?

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
7. This idiot or that other idiot in Louisiana, Jindal, are
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:54 PM
Nov 2012

supposedly the republicans path to salvation through tokenization.

What a fucking joke.

Why am I not laughing?

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
102. The Republican Primaries are 100% pure entertainment...
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 07:22 PM
Nov 2012

I really expect them to just cut to the chase and start literally flinging poo at each other...messy, but fun to watch from a safe, disinterested distance...

jonthebru

(1,034 posts)
8. These poo' bas tards
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:55 PM
Nov 2012

can't be honest with their statements of belief.
If he repeats the doctrine of the creationists he will be mocked by the likes of us.
If he states the obvious truth that the world is very, very old then he will be drummed out of his church and his base will abandon him.

We can't really ignore these folks anymore. They have great influence on our future through their elected representatives.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
10. Nor is he an expert on ANY of the bills on which he votes.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:57 PM
Nov 2012

When are we going to hear him say, "I don't know about funding this war stuff. I'm not a general."?

Iggo

(47,548 posts)
12. They didn't ask you how it was created, dumbfuck.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:01 PM
Nov 2012

They asked you how old it is.

Perfect chance to embrace logic, science, and education, and he blows it pandering to the woo.

His kind is dragging this country down.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
30. Unless he gets nailed
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:22 PM
Nov 2012

for sending pictures of his dick to minors on Facebook, this fake refugee will be on the next Republican presidential ticket, unless the world ends on December 21, but, "Hey, man, I'm not a Mayan astrologer!"

SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)
14. Obvious pandering is obvious
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:03 PM
Nov 2012

IOW-I can't piss of the evangelicals and I don't wanna go full creationist, I'll just say 'it's a mystery' and can we talk about something else.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
16. Rubio may not think that he’s a scientist,...
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:06 PM
Nov 2012

but he is a member of the Senate’s Commerce, Science, & Transportation Committee.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
78. So is that guy that said that the Big Bang Theory,
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:22 PM
Nov 2012

evolution and embryology were all from the pits of hell. He's from the House Science Committee, Rep. Paul Boun. And he is a scientist, a physician who has a BS in chemistry.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
85. The GOP knows how to staff their committees! Losers,...
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:33 PM
Nov 2012

the whole damned lot of them. I'm familiar with Paul Boun and his reputation

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
107. And that's scary!
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:22 PM
Nov 2012

The Republican members of the Commerce, Science and Transportation Committe are creationists and global warming deniers!

 

AldoLeopold

(617 posts)
17. So I guess they don't teach logic in law school
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:06 PM
Nov 2012

So you don't understand it, therefore the opposite must be true?

Then this stuff:

“I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that’s a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States.”

So that sounds to me like he's a conspiracy nut.


I think this guy is a thruster short of a hyperdrive.

A stormtrooper short of an imperial legion.

He no nuts, he crazy.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
20. Or in Rubio-speak
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:08 PM
Nov 2012

"Whether Rubio is nuts is a dispute among commentators and I think it has nothing to do with basic facts or logic. I don't think we'll ever know whether Rubio is nuts because I'm not a mental health professional."

caraher

(6,278 posts)
18. What a great catch-all way to argue for the legitimacy of nonsense
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:07 PM
Nov 2012

Here's the format...

"Whether <myth> is true is one of the great mysteries in dispute among <purveyors of competing myths>. I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that because I'm not an expert in <relevant field of study>."

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
19. A revealing statement by the republican's pet minority.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:08 PM
Nov 2012

Guess it explains how he can be dumb enough to think that his party represents him.
Accepting all theories, uncritically, as equally valid does not make him seem open-minded it makes him look feeble-minded.

 

dropboss11

(29 posts)
21. Well frankly...
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:09 PM
Nov 2012

what does the age of the earth have to with jobs or solving the national debt? Rubio has no business answering questions like that. He should answer questions having to do with policies about immigration, the national debt, education, etc. What the actual age of the earth is has absolutely no relevance to the issues facing the country today.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
83. One of the issues facing us is the depletion of "fossil fuels"
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:31 PM
Nov 2012

They are called "fossil fuels" for a reason. People who do not understand that reason have no place with their hands on the policy steering wheel.

Geology is absolutely relevant to one of our number one issues. We cannot afford the luxury of this kind of determined idiocy any longer.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
86. His answers are very relevant
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:43 PM
Nov 2012

If someone on the senate science Committee cannot answer basic science questions, then they should not be making any decisions about science. It has everything to do with education.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
112. well, frankly, it certainly does.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:52 PM
Nov 2012

He hints that he'd leave open the door to teaching creationism in place of the theory of evolution- which is science. The ToE is highly revelant in, for example, the biotech industry.

You are ignorant.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
139. You mention education as one of the topics Rubio ought to be answering questions about
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:57 PM
Nov 2012

yet don't equate this non-answer about science to be about education?
It is important to us as a nation to examine the beliefs of those who want to represent us in Washington. While I would not argue that any particular belief system should be used as a litmus test it ought to be clear that those who believe non-sense are not going to be good representatives for anyone.
They are gullible and silly and should try being comedians (not that I think comedy is a easy way to make a living or that comedians are fools) rather than politicians.

 

Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
23. Oh, not this shit again!
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:10 PM
Nov 2012

If you replace "intelligent" with utter and "design" with bullshit, you have intelligent design.

In a related story:

If you replace "creation" with nonsensical and "science" with dumbfuckery, you have creation science.

truthisfreedom

(23,143 posts)
31. And this is what you say when you're afraid to lose your base.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:23 PM
Nov 2012

Dude is running scared for some reason. Wonder why that might be. Collapse of his party, perhaps?

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
32. It's possible that it was created in 7 days.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:25 PM
Nov 2012

However, that's a religious view, and should not even be mentioned in the same conversation as science.

Bozo.

ElboRuum

(4,717 posts)
40. This subthread shall be devoted to the explanation of magnets.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:51 PM
Nov 2012

Nah. Just kidding. You can't explain that.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
34. As one of their prophets taught us...
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:37 PM
Nov 2012

Rick Santorum: 'Smart People' Will Never Be On Our Side

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/15/rick-santorum-smart-peopl_n_1886684.html

They guy is a latter day Nostradamus. Except not as smart...

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
35. Pls, Pls, Let Him get the Republican Nomination in 2016
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:38 PM
Nov 2012

The repub's haven't learned. We are going to watch the death spiral of the republican party. Ha Ha, I love it!

silhouete2

(80 posts)
38. Oh my God
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:42 PM
Nov 2012

give me a break. Theologians are NOT scientists. That is the problem with Bible literalist Christians--they have to alter reality to fit the script. I'm Christian--educated in public schools and educated about religion at home and church. I've NEVER had an issue with evolution---because I don't believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible on all things.-like the story of creation. I'm an educator myself and i live in both words just fine--and see no contradiction. The problem with these people is that they think God flits around involving Himself in their daily lives--sporting events, elections, weather, financial situations. He doesn't. They refuse to believe in science because it interferes with their take on reality. I have friends who don't believe that humans have faulty genes because that would mean, to them, that God makes mistakes. Um, no it doesn't. When guys like Rubio spout this nonsense, they look dumber to me. But I see the appeal--because the GOP is STILL catering to their extreme Bible thumping base. Go figure.

 

BlueMan Votes

(903 posts)
41. "a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all."
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:54 PM
Nov 2012

I wonder how much time he'd like to see spent on teaching the flying spaghetti monster unit...?

eyewall

(674 posts)
45. To me, the part of his statement that is the most unnerving is
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:06 PM
Nov 2012
"I think parents should be able to teach their kids what their faith says, what science says.”


This reveals the meme of "Obama has taken away our freedoms". I've seen people say the federal govt will prevent, or is preventing, parents from teaching religion to their kids. This is one of the "freedumbs" that gets mentioned a lot, usually stated as "practicing your own faith". They also whine about "people of faith are not allowed in govt offices" even though either statement is clearly false.

This is the stuff of violent backlash and it's promoted by teahadists and hate radio, and those weird emails republicans send each other.
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
58. +1
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:29 PM
Nov 2012

They are ginning themselves up for big trouble, these rightwing kooks. Once a few more societal supports get kicked out of the collective scaffolding - due to climate change, etc. -- and they're even worse off than they are now, they will indeed become increasingly violent.

While blaming the likes of all of us on this board.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
53. Well I'm not a scientist but I KNOW the earth WASN'T created in 7 days!
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:21 PM
Nov 2012

That statement of his will help with his undoing in 2016...I can just see the ads now. He seems to be into pandering just as much as Romney. Look where that got him...the same place as Rubio is headed.

Can you just see the landslide with Rubio vs Clinton?

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
57. Parents should be able to teach their children nitwit ideas without interference.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:27 PM
Nov 2012

This is the an example of just why these Teabaggers shouldn't be elected. Parents should be able to teach their children that the FLAT earth was created six thousand years ago in seven days and most importantly not be contradicted by stupid teachers who don't know that the Good Book is the only source of knowledge. Of course evolution is a liberal lie and only God knows how the tides operate.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
59. "I’m not a scientist, man"
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:33 PM
Nov 2012

maybe it's time to elect a scientist President!!! and no more Fundies please

it this a joke????

Mz Pip

(27,436 posts)
62. I'm not a sicentist either, man
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:44 PM
Nov 2012

But I am relatively well read and educated. I have some common sense and decent critical thinking skills.

I don't think someone with Rubio's point of view should be on the science committee, much less POTUS.

louslobbs

(3,232 posts)
63. He's right, he's not a scientist...he's a panderer. Rubio, stop using that credit card for personal
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:47 PM
Nov 2012

spending.....you know, that gov. credit card that the tax payer foots the bill for that you tend to use for your auto repairs and such.....in other words, stop stealing from the tax payers.
Lou

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
95. Now that is a problem....
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:39 PM
Nov 2012

Carbon dating is strictly prohibited by TeaBaggers. I mean next you will see Oxygen dating and then all hell will break loose...

Up2Late

(17,797 posts)
65. Not funny, scary.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:54 PM
Nov 2012

He needs to watch the movie I watched again last night, "Monty Python's The Meaning of Life."



SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
67. The Rube shows his true colors...
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:55 PM
Nov 2012

well, as long as the winds of BIG money blow his way.

Hey Rube, hope you have a good time with the Pukes, Baggers and Haters...keep talk'n man, show the MAJORITY of America who you are.

Can you say..................................Mittens and Loser?

And..............................................Buh - Bye!

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
70. It's the rubber bands that I just can't get my head around....
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:02 PM
Nov 2012

I mean, they are stretchy and then they aren't. I'm no scientist. It's a real head scratcher. I'm just a stupid politician. None of this makes any sense to me at all...

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
118. Exactly
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:21 PM
Nov 2012

Everyone knows that on the seventh day, Gawd knocked off work so he could watch Tim Tebow play football, and y'know, help out every once in awhile since he doesn't have anything better to do.

 

leftlibdem420

(256 posts)
72. Rubio's a fucking Catholic
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:05 PM
Nov 2012

The church takes a pro evolution line. But if the death penalty, war, and abortion are anything to go by, Rubio will agree with his church so long as the GOP doesn't order him to do otherwise.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
91. shhhh.. magnets are magic tape sent as proof miracles do exist... velcro too
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:54 PM
Nov 2012

only velcro is better for fabric miracles.

and don't get me started about Miracle Whip!



 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
77. Jesus! Don't tell him how the moon got here!
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:16 PM
Nov 2012

His head will explode.






Of course I don't believe he believes what he's saying. He's just pandering and trying to not take sides...wishy washy marshmallow.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
79. St. Augustine said:
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:25 PM
Nov 2012
If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books. For then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue statements, they will try to call upon Holy Scripture for proof and even recite from memory many passages which they think support their position, although “they understand neither what they say nor the things about which they make assertion.”


http://college.holycross.edu/faculty/alaffey/other_files/Augustine-Genesis1.pdf

drm604

(16,230 posts)
87. He doesn't want to take a position because he doesn't want to anger the base.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:48 PM
Nov 2012

This is a wishy-washy non-answer to appease the masses.

lastlib

(23,208 posts)
88. He's not a Senator, either, but he plays one in Congress......
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:49 PM
Nov 2012

I'm coming to the conclusion that the reason we have so many idiots in Congress is that they relate best to the majority of voters.....

These doofuses are a dime a dozen--I got it in for the guy that's supplyin' the dimes!

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
89. He'll have 3 years to assemble more of these winners ahead of his assumed run for Prez
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:51 PM
Nov 2012

A long time for a big mouth... he's going to put Palin to shame

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
103. You're also not a theologian, dude
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 07:55 PM
Nov 2012

You may not be a scientist, dude, but you're also clearly not a theologian, and no, you don't know what the Bible says. And no, 7-day creation is not really in dispute except among fundamentalist Christians (and they don't dispute it - they just believe it, against all reason, and ironically against the Bible). There are TWO entirely different creation accounts in the first chapters of Genesis (which one do you want to read literally?!). The older version, from the J source (the mythological material in Genesis 1-11 come from 2 sources, known as J and P), starts in chapter 2 verse 4 in the middle of the verse, and it tells the story of a garden in the East and God creating a man out of dust and later on a woman from the man, and how these humans lost their innocence and immortality and left the Garden (a story rich in meaning and similar in symbolism with many other Ancient Near Eastern myths). (The reason the story starts in the middle of a verse is because the verses were added later with no awareness of the separateness of these stories.)

The younger story, from the P source, is found in the first chapter of Genesis 1 and it ends in ch. 2 verse 4. The Genesis 1 account, which tells the story of how the world was created in 6 days, was never intended by the biblical writers to be a scientific account. Apparently the ancients were more sophisticated in some ways than many modern people. The story has its origins in the Babylonian exile of the Jews, and it is based on the Babylonian myth of how the god Marduk killed the water/chaos goddess Tiamat (etymologically related to the word tehom - or "deep"/"abyss"/"waters" in the first verse of Genesis) and then created the world by splitting her body into two and creating a dome in the middle. You get the exact same image in Genesis, where the single all-powerful God of the Jews (called Elohim by the P source) split the now depersonified waters (waters being associated with chaos) into two and creating a dome (a safe space of order and fecundity) in the midst of the waters below and the waters above. (In the Noah myth this dome disappears as the fountains of the deep open and the windows of the skies are opened and the waters flood the dome - which suggests the end of creation within that worldview.) The whole Genesis 1 creation story was a monotheistic polemic against the polytheism of the Babylonians. Instead of a battle between the male warrior god and the goddess of water/chaos, in the Genesis account there is a single God who creates order from the chaos (now no longer personified in goddess form). But the basic structure of the story is the same, and it is very tightly structured, with parallels between days 1 & 4, 2 & 5, and 3 & 6 - on the first 3, a space is created, and in the last 3, the inhabitants of that space, something like this:
1 (light and sky); 4 (lights - not called sun and moon because the words were names for gods, but these moved so they were seen as living inhabitants of the sky)
2 (separated sea and sky); 5 (birds and sea creatures)
3 (land and vegetation); 6 (animals and finally humans).
(I admit I'm a bit fuzzy on the details here and I can't check now because I' have to go give my daughter her bath.)

Anyway, this is the kind of material you will find in the Catholic Study Bible. It is the accepted reading of Genesis in Catholicism and all of mainstream Protestantism (I assume Orthodoxy as well, although I can't say for sure). The only people who think that Genesis is a literal account are fundamentalists. It is just that there are so many of those in the United States.

So, Mr. Rubio, you are not a scientist, but you're also not a theologian. It is so sad that so many people miss out on the richness of these stories. They give us a glimpse into the worldview of the ancient peoples of the Middle East, as well as their theological development. They are full of wisdom and symbolism, and I love reading these texts (alongside Gilgamesh, the Qur'an, and other texts) with my students. I find it tragic that idiots in this country not only distort these beautiful old stories, but also ignore science in the process, and dumb down our kids in the process.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
110. Thanks for this commentary
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:33 PM
Nov 2012

I know the Roman Catholic Church and the mainstream protestant denominations have all issued statements that they have no problem with accepting the scientific consensus on evolution.

wrath of medusa

(24 posts)
108. Gee whiz
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:26 PM
Nov 2012

Here I was accepting radiometric dating as a reliable method for finding the age of rocks. I'm so happy that I need not look further than my nearest bible to know the age of the Earth. Thanks, Senator!

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
113. It is an indictment of our society
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:58 PM
Nov 2012

that a fucking idiot like this is elected to our national government.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
119. well, believers mostly think God gave the example of what He did to form the galaxies, not sure it's
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:58 PM
Nov 2012

supposed to be taken as a literal interpretation, but regardless, I think God's the ultimate scientist - but I sure don't think republicans are the best choice to represent believers! they do nothing but treat others who don't think as they do, with contempt and ridicule.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
120. Earth was created in 7 days
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:35 AM
Nov 2012

now whether his brain knows that or believes that I have no idea. One either believes it (me) or you don't. It's not a mystery.

Fortunately I'm not a Christian Scientist waiting for my broken arm to heal X_X

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
122. Arrogance: "*People* may never know, because *I* don't know."
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:21 AM
Nov 2012

Take comfort that all people are not like you, Sen. Rubio.

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JohnnyRingo

(18,624 posts)
123. Maybe we have gravity because the Earth sucks.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:34 AM
Nov 2012

How could anyone know?
Why isn't there a mandatory IQ test for politicians?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
125. Rubio to English translation:
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 06:57 AM
Nov 2012

Republicans perceive their strong suit to be the economy.

Republicans are dependent on the extreme right religious vote. However, pandering to the extreme right, religious and otherwise, may have cost Republicans seats in the House, Congress and the Oval Office. Therefore, it is prudent for Republicans to try to hold on to the extreme religious right while, at the same time, trying to remove those issues from the political arena.

So, statements like "I am not a scientist" and "I know what the Bible says" and "None of this has anything to do with GDP." would fit right in with the post 2012 Republican agenda.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
127. A **rube** is a yokel, a dimwit. We can call him RUBEio from now on.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:39 AM
Nov 2012

Noun

rube (plural rubes)

A person of rural heritage; a yokel.
(pejorative) An uninformed, unsophisticated, or unintelligent person.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
128. Wow! That's a hard veer to the Right isn't it?
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:42 AM
Nov 2012

It's surprising he didn't lose his center of gravity and roll over like a car would if it suddenly turned a hard 90 degrees to the right.

FlaGranny

(8,361 posts)
130. The dope calls himself a Catholic.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:20 AM
Nov 2012

What does the Church say about it?

"The Church has deferred to scientists on matters such as the age of the earth and the authenticity of the fossil record. Papal pronouncements, along with commentaries by cardinals, have accepted the findings of scientists on the gradual appearance of life. In fact, the International Theological Commission in a July 2004 statement endorsed by Cardinal Ratzinger, then president of the Commission and head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, now Pope Benedict XVI, includes this paragraph:


According to the widely accepted scientific account, the universe erupted 15 billion years ago in an explosion called the 'Big Bang' and has been expanding and cooling ever since. Later there gradually emerged the conditions necessary for the formation of atoms, still later the condensation of galaxies and stars, and about 10 billion years later the formation of planets. In our own solar system and on earth (formed about 4.5 billion years ago), the conditions have been favorable to the emergence of life. While there is little consensus among scientists about how the origin of this first microscopic life is to be explained, there is general agreement among them that the first organism dwelt on this planet about 3.5–4 billion years ago. Since it has been demonstrated that all living organisms on earth are genetically related, it is virtually certain that all living organisms have descended from this first organism. Converging evidence from many studies in the physical and biological sciences furnishes mounting support for some theory of evolution to account for the development and diversification of life on earth, while controversy continues over the pace and mechanisms of evolution.[5]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_evolution

BE10sCoach

(48 posts)
131. Yipee Marco
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:24 AM
Nov 2012

that's what I like, a GOP contender for 2016 to repudiate Science to play to the looney Tea Party and Evangelical base. Go for it Senator Rubio, show American, just like Romney did you don't have "the Balls" to stand up to the loonies in the GOP. We Democrats love ya for that!

Overseas

(12,121 posts)
132. He thinks scientific literacy has "nothing to do with the GDP or economic growth."
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:54 AM
Nov 2012

Yet being able to have elected so many officials without scientific literacy has meant that we have taken far too little action on global warming and now are spending billions of our GDP cleaning up after the devastation the resulting super storms have wrought.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
137. Yep, He's Running for President Alright ....
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:41 PM
Nov 2012

He couldn't piss off the bible thumpers now could he? Needs that evangelical vote.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
143. Science is not a theology. Scientific truths, while contingent, are 'true' regardless of individual
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:08 AM
Nov 2012

beliefs. That's what rankles fundies, Agreement with any scientific hypothesis does not require that you come to investigation with preexisting assumptions. In fact you are doing bad science if you approach phenomena with preconceived notions. Faith and science are fundamentally incompatible.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
147. I suspect... and I could be wrong,
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 07:28 AM
Nov 2012

that Marco Rubio accepts that evolution is an unavoidably real phenomenon, but he is just pandering to his constituents.

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