Mon Sep 18, 2023, 08:35 AM
BumRushDaShow (118,734 posts)
US-bound plane leaves Doha with five Americans freed by IranLast edited Mon Sep 18, 2023, 04:32 PM - Edit history (5)
Source: Reuters
September 18, 2023 2:36 PM EDT DOHA/NEW YORK, Sept 18 (Reuters) - A U.S.-bound plane carrying five Americans freed by Iran left Doha on Monday as part of a prisoner swap for five Iranians held in the United States and the transfer of $6 billion in Iranian funds, marking a rare deal between the long-time antagonists. "Today, five innocent Americans who were imprisoned in Iran are finally coming home," U.S. President Joe Biden said in a statement shortly before the U.S. detainees descended the stairs of a Qatari jet in Doha to be embraced by U.S. diplomats. The White House confirmed a plane carrying the five, along with two U.S. family members who left Tehran with them earlier, was en route to the United States, where they were to be offered medical treatment by the U.S. military as they adjust to freedom. Separately, Iran's state-owned Press TV said the five Iranians held by the United States and charged with committing crimes had been freed, an apparent reference to their being granted clemency, and that two of them had landed in Tehran. The other three are not expected to return to Iran. "This was purely a humanitarian action," Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi said after arriving in New York for the annual U.N. General Assembly. "It can certainly be a step based upon which in the future other humanitarian actions can be taken." It was unclear whether the exchange might bring progress on the many issues that divide the two nations, including Iran's nuclear program, its support for regional Shi'ite militias, the presence of U.S. troops in the Gulf and U.S. sanctions on Iran. Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/south-korea-working-unfreeze-tehrans-funds-us-iran-detainee-deal-2023-09-18/ Article updated. Previous articles/headlines - US, Iran swap prisoners in deal involving $6 billion transfer
September 18, 2023 1:24 PM EDT DOHA/NEW YORK, Sept 18 (Reuters) - Five U.S. citizens left Iran and landed in Doha on Monday in a prisoner swap for five Iranians held in the United States and the transfer of $6 billion in Iranian funds, marking a rare moment of cooperation between the long-time antagonists. "Today, five innocent Americans who were imprisoned in Iran are finally coming home," U.S. President Joe Biden said in a statement shortly before the U.S. detainees descended the stairs of a Qatari jet to be embraced by U.S. diplomats. Separately, Iran's Press TV said the five Iranians held by the United States and charged with committing crimes had been freed, an apparent reference to their being granted clemency. Two arrived in Doha, U.S. and Iranian officials said. "This was purely a humanitarian action," Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi said after arriving in New York for the annual U.N. General Assembly. "It can certainly be a step based upon which in the future other humanitarian actions can be taken." It was unclear whether the exchange might bring progress on the many issues that divide the two nations, including Iran's nuclear program, its support for regional Shi'ite militias, the presence of U.S. troops in the Gulf and U.S. sanctions on Iran. Relations between the United States and Iran, adversaries for more than 40 years, have been especially bitter since former U.S. President Donald Trump in 2018 reneged on a deal to curb Iran's nuclear program and reimposed U.S. sanctions. Washington suspects the program may aim to develop nuclear weapons - an ambition Tehran denies - that could threaten Israel or U.S. Gulf Arab allies. U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken left the door open to diplomacy on the nuclear file, which he described as "perhaps the number one issue of concern," but suggested nothing was imminent. "In this moment, we're not engaged on that, but we'll see in the future if there are opportunities," he told reporters in New York. Five US citizens land in Qatar as part of US-Iran prisoner swap
September 18, 2023 12:09 PM EDT DOHA, Sept 18 (Reuters) - Five U.S. citizens left Iran and landed in Doha on Monday in a prisoner swap for five Iranians held in the United States and the transfer of $6 billion in Iranian funds in a rare moment of cooperation between the long-time antagonists. "Today, five innocent Americans who were imprisoned in Iran are finally coming home," U.S. President Joe Biden said in a statement, shortly before the U.S. detainees descended the stairs of a Qatari jet to be embraced by U.S. diplomats. Separately, Iran's Press TV said the five Iranians detained by the United States and charged with committing crimes had been freed, an apparent reference to their being granted clemency. Two arrived in Doha, U.S. and Iranian officials said. It was unclear whether the exchange might bring progress on the many issues that divide the two nations, including Iran's nuclear program, its support for regional Shi'ite militias, the presence of U.S. troops in the Gulf and U.S. sanctions on Iran. In a sign Biden, a Democrat, wishes to keep a tough front toward Iran and perhaps blunt Republican criticism, he announced U.S. sanctions on Iran's former Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and its intelligence ministry "for their involvement in wrongful detentions." "We will continue to impose costs on Iran for their provocative actions in the region," he said in the statement, in which he thanked the governments of Qatar, Oman, Switzerland and South Korea for their assistance in securing the releases. September 18, 2023 11:08 AM EDT
DOHA, Sept 18 (Reuters) - Five U.S. citizens left Iran and landed in Doha on Monday in a prisoner swap for five Iranians held in the United States and the transfer of $6 billion in Iranian funds in a rare deal between the long-time antagonists. "Today, five innocent Americans who were imprisoned in Iran are finally coming home," U.S. President Joe Biden said in a statement, adding they "will soon be reunited with their loved ones--after enduring years of agony, uncertainty, and suffering." It was unclear whether the exchange might bring progress on the many issues that divide the two nations, including Iran's nuclear program, its support for regional Shi'ite militias, the presence of U.S. troops in the Gulf and U.S. sanctions on Iran. A plane sent by mediator Qatar flew the five U.S. citizens and two of their relatives out of Tehran after both sides got confirmation the funds had been transferred to accounts in Doha, a source briefed on the matter told Reuters. A Reuters witness saw the plane land at Doha International Airport. U.S. officials received the five Americans after they disembarked from the Qatari plane at Doha, the Reuters witness said. Switzerland's ambassador to Iran accompanied them on the plane to Doha, the witness added. Earlier, two of the five Iranians landed in Qatar, a U.S. official said. Three have opted not to return to Iran. The five Iranian Americans - one of whom had been held for about eight years on charges the United States had rejected as baseless - were due to board a U.S. government aircraft in Doha and then fly home to the United States. US prisoners fly out of Iran in swap deal after $6 billion unfrozen
September 18, 2023 8:56 AM EDT DOHA, Sept 18 (Reuters) - Five U.S. detainees flew out of Iran on Monday in a swap for five Iranians held in the U.S. under a rare deal brokered by Qatar between the arch enemies that also unfroze $6 billion of Tehran's funds. A Qatari plane took off from Tehran carrying the five with two of their relatives, shortly after the U.S. and Iran received confirmation that the funds had been transferred to accounts in Doha, a source briefed on the matter told Reuters. Iran's Press TV said two of the five Iranians to be released in the exchange had landed in Doha. There was no independent confirmation, though Iranian officials had said three of those to be freed by the U.S. were not returning to Iran. The funds' release triggered an exchange sequence agreed after months of talks between the United States and Iran, who are at odds over Tehran's nuclear ambitions and other issues. The five Americans with dual nationality are due to fly to Doha and then on to the U.S. "They are in good health," an Iranian official briefed on the process said. Iran's Foreign ministry spokesperson Nasser Kanaani said two of the Iranians being released would return to Iran while two would stay in the U.S. at their request. One detainee would join his family in a third country, he added. Kanaani said the funds, blocked in South Korea after U.S. sanctions on Iran were hardened in 2018, would be available to Tehran on Monday. Under the deal, Qatar will ensure the cash is spent on humanitarian goods and not items under U.S. sanctions. Original article/headline - U.S. detainees to fly out of Iran in swap deal after $6 billion unfrozen
September 18, 2023 7:43 AM EDT DOHA, Sept 18 (Reuters) - Five U.S. detainees were being taken to a Qatari aircraft to fly out of Iran on Monday in a swap for five Iranians detained in the U.S. thanks to a Doha-brokered deal between the arch foes that also unfroze $6 billion of Tehran's funds. The Qatari plane was on standby after the U.S. and Iran were told, according to a source briefed on the matter, that the funds had been transferred to accounts in Qatar. "U.S. detainees are being transported to the Qatari jet," the source said. The funds' release triggered an exchange sequence agreed after months of talks between the United States and Iran, who are at odds over Tehran's nuclear ambitions and other issues. The five Americans with dual nationality are due to fly to Doha and then on to the U.S. Two relatives are also expected to be on the flight. "They are in good health," an Iranian official briefed on the process said about the detainees. In return, five Iranians detained in the U.S. will be released. The Iranian Foreign ministry spokesperson said two Iranians would return to Iran while two would stay in the U.S. at their request. One detainee would join his family in a third country, he added. Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesperson Nasser Kanaani said the funds, blocked in South Korea after U.S. sanctions on Iran were hardened in 2018, would be available to Tehran on Monday. Under the deal, Qatar will ensure it is spent on humanitarian goods. There was no immediate public U.S. comment.
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BumRushDaShow | Sep 18 | OP |
Alexander Of Assyria | Sep 18 | #1 | |
Mosby | Sep 18 | #10 | |
Alexander Of Assyria | Sep 18 | #17 | |
oldsoftie | Sep 18 | #14 | |
Torchlight | Sep 19 | #21 | |
Deminpenn | Sep 18 | #2 | |
3Hotdogs | Sep 18 | #3 | |
BumRushDaShow | Sep 18 | #6 | |
Kali | Sep 19 | #19 | |
3Hotdogs | Sep 19 | #24 | |
question everything | Sep 18 | #4 | |
riversedge | Sep 18 | #5 | |
Bayard | Sep 18 | #7 | |
3Hotdogs | Sep 18 | #8 | |
sybylla | Sep 18 | #11 | |
3Hotdogs | Sep 18 | #12 | |
oldsoftie | Sep 18 | #13 | |
sybylla | Sep 18 | #15 | |
3Hotdogs | Sep 18 | #18 | |
sybylla | Sep 19 | #20 | |
Alexander Of Assyria | Sep 19 | #22 | |
Torchlight | Sep 19 | #25 | |
3Hotdogs | Sep 19 | #23 | |
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin | Sep 18 | #9 | |
orangecrush | Sep 18 | #16 |
Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 09:23 AM
Alexander Of Assyria (7,579 posts)
1. At odds...lol...were not before America withdrew from international agreement. ...some media
always forgets that little naughty bit…among many others.
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Response to Alexander Of Assyria (Reply #1)
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 01:44 PM
Mosby (15,030 posts)
10. Iran wasn't following the JCPOA anyway
According to the IAEA.
They'll have nukes soon. |
Response to Mosby (Reply #10)
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 11:26 PM
Alexander Of Assyria (7,579 posts)
17. What agreement? Nothing to follow. Torn up by Trump long before.
Response to Alexander Of Assyria (Reply #1)
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 06:37 PM
oldsoftie (11,664 posts)
14. At least it wasnt a white balloon floating over the country.
Response to Alexander Of Assyria (Reply #1)
Tue Sep 19, 2023, 12:46 PM
Torchlight (2,681 posts)
21. What leads you to assert media and people are forgetting "naughty bits?"
All relevant information is easily accessible.
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 09:34 AM
Deminpenn (15,117 posts)
2. Jmho, but this is good
It's far better to have a diplomatic relationship with Iran, even if through a third party, than none at all.
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 09:40 AM
3Hotdogs (11,280 posts)
3. My question, why were those people in Iran in the first place? I know enough not to go to Iran,
Korea, China, Russia...
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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #3)
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 11:21 AM
BumRushDaShow (118,734 posts)
6. They were all Iranian-Americans
so might have had family there.
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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #3)
Tue Sep 19, 2023, 11:17 AM
Kali (54,668 posts)
19. the world isn't just governments and politics
there is "danger" everywhere. people have many reasons for traveling to "dangerous" places.
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Response to Kali (Reply #19)
Tue Sep 19, 2023, 03:03 PM
3Hotdogs (11,280 posts)
24. Fine. But they and their family need to accept the consequences of their actions.
Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 10:37 AM
question everything (45,970 posts)
4. K&R
Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 10:56 AM
riversedge (67,576 posts)
5. short video of them coming off plane..............
Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 11:24 AM
Bayard (20,152 posts)
7. Prisoner exchange, and ransom paid
Sounds like a hostage movie.
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Response to Bayard (Reply #7)
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 01:20 PM
3Hotdogs (11,280 posts)
8. So when the next group of visitors to Iran/Russia/No.Korea gets arrested for whatever --
are we gonna bail then out too? At what cost?
Everybody knows these are shithole countries. U.S. policy should be, go you there, you're on your own. |
Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #8)
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 04:46 PM
sybylla (8,225 posts)
11. That wasn't our money.
That was money Iran had invested outside their borders that the US put a freeze on.
I'm not going to defend or attack the exchange at the moment or the release of Iranian funds. I get a sense that there's something else in the works and I'm comfortable at the moment waiting to see if something else happens. |
Response to sybylla (Reply #11)
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 05:14 PM
3Hotdogs (11,280 posts)
12. That is not my point. My point is, every time someone gets imprisoned in one of these countries,
we lose. We give up something --- spies, arms dealers, whatever, we lose.
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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #12)
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 06:35 PM
oldsoftie (11,664 posts)
13. Yes it appears that way. Should've done this AFTER the election. Terrible optics.
Yes, I'm happy for those released, but we released 5 Iranians. That should've been it regardless of the money being Iranian. It was frozen for a reason. Same with the Griner deal; giving up a worldwide arms dealer Putin WANTED badly for an athlete was a bad deal. Just dont go to these countries. None of them can be trusted & we all know it.
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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #12)
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 09:25 PM
sybylla (8,225 posts)
15. Yep. That's the game that's been played for decades.
What would you do differently? You'd leave Brittney Griner to rot in a Russian prison on fluffed up charges? You'd leave spies to be tortured in the hands of our enemies? You'd leave citizens visiting family under "house" arrest in a hostile country?
FWIW, I doubt we do this for everyone, but I bet we do it plenty when there are advantages for us. |
Response to sybylla (Reply #15)
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 11:40 PM
3Hotdogs (11,280 posts)
18. Griner is one episode. But should we bail out the next idiot who goes into Russia and gets
pinched?
I know enough, not to go to Russia. I bet you do to. So what about the next case? How much should we pay to get the U.S. Army private out of No. Korea? I vote, not one red cent. |
Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #18)
Tue Sep 19, 2023, 12:35 PM
sybylla (8,225 posts)
20. I get that empathy is hard for some people.
I will also repeat, again, that the money for Iran was their money, it's going to Qatar to manage and use solely for humanitarian purposes.
If you need help on this topic, check out Beau ?si=owJ3lC-96SpoHz7x |
Response to sybylla (Reply #20)
Tue Sep 19, 2023, 12:54 PM
Alexander Of Assyria (7,579 posts)
22. Truth hurts the acceptable narrative. America tearing up the nuclear agreement gets...lost.
Apparently many thing Iran should have continued to agree to the torn up now non agreement…just because.
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Response to Alexander Of Assyria (Reply #22)
Tue Sep 19, 2023, 04:06 PM
Torchlight (2,681 posts)
25. What is this particular narrative you assert?
And what truths are being denied?
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Response to sybylla (Reply #11)
Tue Sep 19, 2023, 03:01 PM
3Hotdogs (11,280 posts)
23. Again, my comment is not about THIS episode. It is about what the next idiot's captivity will cost
us and should we announce that in future,
Go there, get caught, you're on your own. |
Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 01:40 PM
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (102,394 posts)
9. I hear right wing heads exploding
Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 11:25 PM
orangecrush (17,674 posts)
16. Thank you Joe Biden
For having the GUTS to do the right thing, no matter how "some people" see it. |