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TPaine7

(4,286 posts)
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:15 PM Nov 2012

Top Romney Adviser Brags About Losing Poor, Minority Voters To Obama

Last edited Thu Nov 29, 2012, 07:23 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Yahoo

Mitt Romney can take some solace in his devastating loss on Nov. 6: at least he won the voters who really count.

That's the thesis anyway of top adviser Stuart Stevens, who penned an op-ed in the Washington Post on Wednesday arguing that by winning wealthier and whiter voters, Romney secured the moral victory over Obama.

"On Nov. 6, Mitt Romney carried the majority of every economic group except those with less than $50,000 a year in household income," Stevens wrote. "That means he carried the majority of middle-class voters. While John McCain lost white voters under 30 by 10 points, Romney won those voters by seven points, a 17-point shift."

According to Stevens, "The Republican Party has problems, but as we go forward, let's remember that any party that captures the majority of the middle class must be doing something right." As a result, "Republican ideals -- Mitt Romney -- carried the day."

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/top-romney-adviser-brags-losing-poor-minority-voters-180955828--politics.html



On the day before the loser has lunch with our President--a President who is one of us non-whites who don't count, any more than those making under $50,000 per year.

Stay classy, Romney campaign!
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Top Romney Adviser Brags About Losing Poor, Minority Voters To Obama (Original Post) TPaine7 Nov 2012 OP
I'm in that category, and he didn't get my vote. truthisfreedom Nov 2012 #1
They are really desperate, no? peacebird Nov 2012 #3
Same here from a White, Married Woman HockeyMom Nov 2012 #44
Queen Ann x2 vancouverite Nov 2012 #55
money and pigment make superior morality. Amazing. roguevalley Nov 2012 #50
Have they counted how many racist votes Romney got? RedCloud Nov 2012 #2
Obviously telling themselves... skypilot Nov 2012 #4
And here I was thinking Romney lost BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #5
This guy must work for CNN Renew Deal Nov 2012 #6
+1,000 freshwest Nov 2012 #33
I guess he does not like winning. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #7
Romney was aiming for voter "quality," not voter "quantity." JaneQPublic Nov 2012 #8
OMG!!! These were the ELITES bucolic_frolic Nov 2012 #9
I'm a white, middle-aged Christian male who makes a respectable salary well above Aristus Nov 2012 #10
You realize that Romney's way could eventually lead to you losing everything you have. brewens Nov 2012 #51
But to realize this... OldEurope Dec 2012 #75
It's the TOTAL VOTES stupid cosmicone Nov 2012 #11
Romney won? So when is his inauguration? Cali_Democrat Nov 2012 #12
Romney's presidential inauguration .. blackdiamond62 Nov 2012 #30
Two days after the heat death of the universe. hifiguy Nov 2012 #62
So the key to Republican victory is democratic economic policy FreeBC Nov 2012 #13
I am 40, white, a teacher, and I voted for OBAMA RWilliam Nov 2012 #14
welcome to DU niyad Nov 2012 #15
Welcome to DU! myrna minx Nov 2012 #21
A teacher! AND joining DU! FailureToCommunicate Nov 2012 #22
Welcome to DU goclark Nov 2012 #24
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #36
Welcome to DU. Agschmid Nov 2012 #38
Welcome!! Politicub Nov 2012 #41
Welcome to DU, and here's a song for you... alp227 Nov 2012 #47
So really, rich voters are the moral high?! You mean those who steal, enslave and cheat Dont call me Shirley Nov 2012 #16
that and a nickle will get you a steaming hot cup of jack shit.. frylock Nov 2012 #17
Over 2700 responses to that piece in less than 3 hours on yahoo. japple Nov 2012 #18
Huh, i thought Yahoo comments sections=Free Republic lite. alp227 Nov 2012 #48
Did you read any of the comments? japple Nov 2012 #63
Not after this article, alp227 Nov 2012 #65
The voters that really count? MFM008 Nov 2012 #19
These people are sociopaths. Unreal. n/t NHDEMFORLIFE Nov 2012 #20
I don't understand that under-30 figure starroute Nov 2012 #23
Under 30 white voters represented 11 percent of the total electorate onenote Nov 2012 #32
He is trying gloss over Third Doctor Nov 2012 #25
Under 50,000 is considered poor now? Samurai_Writer Nov 2012 #26
He actually used the word 'moral'??? toby jo Nov 2012 #27
"Life would be a ding-a-derry, if I only had a brain!" struggle4progress Nov 2012 #28
I think that what really matters is who wins the election. olddad56 Nov 2012 #29
Considering that $50,000 per year is the median income in the US ... surrealAmerican Nov 2012 #31
Filed under: Things losers say. Solly Mack Nov 2012 #34
Not since the last time Dick Morris picked up a pen have I read anything as delusional onenote Nov 2012 #35
Did Romney really Win White Voters under 30 ? JI7 Nov 2012 #37
Only because of the Deep South. LAGC Nov 2012 #61
Statistics. Turbineguy Nov 2012 #39
Unfortunatly for Mitt, secondvariety Nov 2012 #40
this heaven05 Nov 2012 #42
yeah, too bad the Repukes have created so many folks that now are under $50K a year huh? NMDemDist2 Nov 2012 #43
+1. Funny how that works.... nt Blasphemer Nov 2012 #64
Another diapatch from the Bubble SariesNightly Nov 2012 #45
ARRRGH GO AWAY YOU ROMNEY LOSERS! alp227 Nov 2012 #46
Here's the full piece NICO9000 Nov 2012 #49
Loser brags beat Loser John McCain Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #52
So, rich White people are worthier and more noble? catbyte Nov 2012 #53
When you shrink the middle class... Tunkamerica Nov 2012 #54
See those nasty skidmarks on his face? lunatica Nov 2012 #56
IF Romney had... Omaha Steve Nov 2012 #57
whites outbirthing minorities 1Greensix Nov 2012 #58
It took him three weeks to find that needle in the haystack they got buried under Coyotl Nov 2012 #59
The Average household income is EC Nov 2012 #60
REALLY? JimVukovich Nov 2012 #66
WELL, THIS IS ONE REASON RMONEY GOT WHIPPED GOOD drynberg Nov 2012 #67
I make over 50K, white, mid forties and I voted for Obama, twice. OverBurn Nov 2012 #68
His picture's in the dictionary Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2012 #69
truth-telling about Republican ideals TomChicago Nov 2012 #70
What a fucking tool...you dumbasses shrunk the middle class and made more poor... Evasporque Nov 2012 #71
Excellent work. Dash87 Nov 2012 #72
Thanks to Mitt, under $50,000 is now the largest group jmowreader Dec 2012 #73
You know that these folks should not be allowed to vote. That's the real problem. efhmc Dec 2012 #74
Wait ... $49,000 isn't considered middle class anymore? Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #76
Keep rationalizing, Republicans daleo Dec 2012 #77
what he forgot to mention leftlibdem420 Dec 2012 #78

truthisfreedom

(23,146 posts)
1. I'm in that category, and he didn't get my vote.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:19 PM
Nov 2012

All of my close friends are in that category, and he didn't get their votes either. He got a bunch of rural punkin-head votes. Farmers who get a lot of gubmint subsidies.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
44. Same here from a White, Married Woman
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:31 PM
Nov 2012

I had to restrain myself from smashing my TV whenever I saw Queen Ann on there.

 

x2 vancouverite

(89 posts)
55. Queen Ann
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:55 AM
Nov 2012

I'm a man, but I'm with you 100%. I am so very glad that she and her horse and her husband (in that order! ) shall gradually fade onto, yea verily, the dimming twilight of political history.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
50. money and pigment make superior morality. Amazing.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:39 AM
Nov 2012

I am thinking how stupid and unthinking it was for the oligarchs to embrace the second amendment. Given that there are about 330m people in America and about 390m guns lying around, when people get tired of eating dirt there will be hell to pay. And it won't be hard to find them. They live in the big houses.

RedCloud

(9,230 posts)
2. Have they counted how many racist votes Romney got?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:22 PM
Nov 2012

Was it 100% of them?

That was his big card he was playing NOT the classes.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
8. Romney was aiming for voter "quality," not voter "quantity."
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:03 PM
Nov 2012

Unfortunately, the only way to win under that system is either to (a) weight the votes of the more desireable citizens as being worth double or triple those of the "commoners"; or (b) revert to the old system where only white, land-owning aristocrats are allowed to vote.

Apart from that, Mr. Snooty-Pants can forget about ever winning any elective office.

bucolic_frolic

(43,142 posts)
9. OMG!!! These were the ELITES
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:03 PM
Nov 2012

Remember when Newt ran all over the country, and Rush complained
on his Hot Air Machine, about all the Democrats were ELITES!!!

Washington Elites!! ELITES! ELITES who wanted to protect parks
from development, acting as DECIDERS for the rest of America!

Now it turns out Mitt was appealing to his own ELITES!!!

Mitt, and the GOP, ELITE PANDERERS!

Too hypocritical, too funny, too pathetic for words.

ELITES. ROFLMAO

Aristus

(66,327 posts)
10. I'm a white, middle-aged Christian male who makes a respectable salary well above
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:08 PM
Nov 2012

the cut-off mark mentioned by this guy, and nothing could ever induce me to vote for Romney or his ilk.

Maybe I voted for President Obama because I'm, you know, smart...

brewens

(13,581 posts)
51. You realize that Romney's way could eventually lead to you losing everything you have.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:50 AM
Nov 2012

That's what they don't get. If they really want to see the end of the system they love, push things too far knocking working people down. If too many people get screwed, even the half-wits will turn on them. Then the shit hits the fan and stays hit!

OldEurope

(1,273 posts)
75. But to realize this...
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 04:18 PM
Dec 2012

..you need a certain level of intelligence and knowledge. The really wealthy don´t have that. Because they do not have to be intelligent or work hard to get their degrees and get wealthy. They just inherit. There are some rich people with brains, but they did never support the Republican Party, at least since Nixon got unmasked.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
11. It's the TOTAL VOTES stupid
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:25 PM
Nov 2012

There is no victory in carrying dwarf people, fat people, people with birthmarks, geminis, virgos or stupid people unless one has more votes in total state-by-state.

 

FreeBC

(403 posts)
13. So the key to Republican victory is democratic economic policy
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:33 PM
Nov 2012

Tough position for the republicans: only rich people vote for them and their trickle down policies make everyone poor.

RWilliam

(6 posts)
14. I am 40, white, a teacher, and I voted for OBAMA
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:42 PM
Nov 2012

my first DU post ever as well, although I have been following since Sept.

I agree- this is a 'class' act coming from the RMoney campaign. Nothing classy at all really. Part of Romnesia still at work- if I recall they lost the election.

alp227

(32,019 posts)
47. Welcome to DU, and here's a song for you...
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:56 PM
Nov 2012


someone else made a pro-Obama type video with the song

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
16. So really, rich voters are the moral high?! You mean those who steal, enslave and cheat
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:15 PM
Nov 2012

in order to have more than their neighbor has the moral high ground?! Really?!

frylock

(34,825 posts)
17. that and a nickle will get you a steaming hot cup of jack shit..
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:16 PM
Nov 2012

enjoy your "moral victory," assholes. we got scoreboard!

japple

(9,822 posts)
18. Over 2700 responses to that piece in less than 3 hours on yahoo.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:19 PM
Nov 2012

Most were people who voted for PBO. Don't tell me he doesn't have a mandate!

alp227

(32,019 posts)
65. Not after this article,
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:19 PM
Nov 2012

but in my experience and from what I've read elsewhere on DU, Yahoo comments & comments sections after other nonpartisan news sites are DOMINATED with the latest RW spin from talk radio or Fox Non-News.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
23. I don't understand that under-30 figure
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:52 PM
Nov 2012

Obama only took 60% of the under-30 vote this time, compared to 66% in 2008 -- but he still beat Romney among those voters by 24 points. So how could Romney have been ahead among white voters under 30 by 7 points?

It seems to me that would only work if whites represented less than half of the under-30 voters and went for Romney by an overwhelming majority. Or am I missing something here?

onenote

(42,700 posts)
32. Under 30 white voters represented 11 percent of the total electorate
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:34 PM
Nov 2012

Under 30 African American voters represented 3 percent of the electorate and under 30 Latino voters made up 4 percent. While Romney took the 11 percent group by 7 points, He lost the the 3 percent group 83 points and the 4 percent group by over 50 points. A quick simple example shows how focusing on young white voters is a losing strategy. If the electorate had 1000 voters, Romney would have taken 56 votes from under 30 whites, 2 votes from under 30 AAs, and 9 votes from under thirty Latinos (a total of 67 votes). Obama, on the other hand, grabs 48 under 30 whites, 27 under 30 AAs and 29 under 30 Latinos for a total of 104 votes.

Given that the part of the electorate represented by under 30 white is almost certainly going to be in decline compared to the share of under 30 AA and Latino (and Asian) voters, Romney's strategist's strategy is the equivalent of investing in the Pony Express.

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
25. He is trying gloss over
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:05 PM
Nov 2012

the fact that he ran a terrible campaign. They were delusional up to election night and some are still delusional I see.

Samurai_Writer

(2,934 posts)
26. Under 50,000 is considered poor now?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:09 PM
Nov 2012

Wow... I have made way over 50,000 a year as a technical writer. But I wanted to do something more worthwhile, and became an R.N. at a state-run hospital. I don't consider my self 'poor', even though I make less than 50,000 right now as a new nurse in a nonprofit, unionized job. Granted, most R.N.s make a lot more than me. But to consider 50,000 a year 'poor'? I'm glad I don't fit into his desired demographic. Even if I did, I would NEVER vote for someone like Mitt Romney!

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
31. Considering that $50,000 per year is the median income in the US ...
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:28 PM
Nov 2012

... half of the "middle class" would be earning less than that. His conclusion that they won "the majority of middle-class voters" is in no way proven by these statistics, and is almost certainly false.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
35. Not since the last time Dick Morris picked up a pen have I read anything as delusional
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:45 PM
Nov 2012

and self-pitying as Stevens' op-ed. My favorite part (other than his absurd notion that winning young white voters by 7 point while losing young non-white voters by an average of around 70 points is a good thing for repubs) is his declaration that no one in the "professional political class" thought Romney had a snowball's chance in hell of winning the repub nomination. The truth is that Romney was from the start to the finish the repub establishment's candidate and while their confidence was shaken by his abysmal showing in the early days of the primaries, they always were behind him. As for Romney convincing the voters not the political class? Well, that's a laugh. It wasn't until the last batch of primaries in April (after most of his competition had thrown in the towel because they lacked the money) that Romney consistently began to win 50 percent or more of the primary vote. Heck, on Super Tuesday, he only got 38 percent of the vote. The rest was split amongst a bunch of unelectable clowns. Same thing in the mid-March primaries -- Romney couldn't attract even 40 percent of the repub primary voters.

He was the choice of the establishment, but not of the crazies that come out to vote in primaries. What saved him was that the crazies flitted from one nutjob (Cain! Bachmannn! Newt!! Santorum!!) after another and didn't rally behind just one of them.

Pathetic. Stevens will be the source of much laughter in DC tomorrow morning.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
37. Did Romney really Win White Voters under 30 ?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:59 PM
Nov 2012

that is disappointing. i know OBama lost the older crowd but thought he would have won the younger ones.

LAGC

(5,330 posts)
61. Only because of the Deep South.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:54 PM
Nov 2012

When you take the South out of the equation, most under 30 whites voted for Obama.

Turbineguy

(37,322 posts)
39. Statistics.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:36 PM
Nov 2012

The less than $50,000 per year group has grown thanks to GOP economic policies. It's the GOP that helped Obama win the election.

alp227

(32,019 posts)
46. ARRRGH GO AWAY YOU ROMNEY LOSERS!
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:53 PM
Nov 2012

Get over it, you lost the election, most Americans don't care about Romney anymore. Not even in 2016, 2020, and beyond.

catbyte

(34,376 posts)
53. So, rich White people are worthier and more noble?
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:18 AM
Nov 2012


Is Romney gonna pay for own lunch tomorrow to prove he's not "a taker"? What a lowlife.

Tunkamerica

(4,444 posts)
54. When you shrink the middle class...
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:25 AM
Nov 2012

starve it to nothing and then brag about winning a majority of a minority...

you might be a republican!

Omaha Steve

(99,609 posts)
57. IF Romney had...
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 07:41 AM
Nov 2012

Produced a plan to raise every household income to $50,000 or more he would have got every single vote.

1Greensix

(111 posts)
58. whites outbirthing minorities
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:05 AM
Nov 2012

Well, it's a darn good thing white middle class folks are having babies at a much faster pace than poor minorities are. Looks like the Republicans will be back on the White House before we know it. Like in,..........a hundred years.
Yes, Rummy did well in the South with Republican racists, but not quite so well with the states that Won the Civil War.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
59. It took him three weeks to find that needle in the haystack they got buried under
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:50 AM
Nov 2012

Oh wait, not a needle, just another elitist strawman.

EC

(12,287 posts)
60. The Average household income is
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:49 AM
Nov 2012

$50,000. So yeah, he just confirmed it....Rmoney only wanted the vote of the upper classes. Average people go screw yourselves, you don't count.

JimVukovich

(6 posts)
66. REALLY?
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:13 PM
Nov 2012

Did Stuart Stevens really say that crap? Talk about "OUT OF TOUCH!"

As long as those beliefs guide those fools who ADVISE the GOP, the Democrats are guaranteed a very long reign in the White House.

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
67. WELL, THIS IS ONE REASON RMONEY GOT WHIPPED GOOD
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:31 PM
Nov 2012

Ole Stuart Stevens can slice the cake this way and that, but he and his boy got the snot bopped outta their noses. Is Stu intimating that your income should be a factor of how many votes you get? Citizens United and tons of corporado cash just ain't enough? I just hope the American Public hears and remembers what is being said by Rmoney, McCain, Stevens, et al when they step into the polling booth the next several elections. Their true identity is coming through loud and clear. Hey Rethugs, "Foam On!".

OverBurn

(950 posts)
68. I make over 50K, white, mid forties and I voted for Obama, twice.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:53 PM
Nov 2012

Am I really that rare? I know lot's of guys that voted just like me, straight Dem ticket.

TomChicago

(29 posts)
70. truth-telling about Republican ideals
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:51 AM
Nov 2012

Yes, the Republican party "has problems". Namely that they don't recognize, in even the grainiest of detail, that they are loathed by a majority of voting humans. The reason for this is also clear: that majority recognizes that the loathing is mutual. Second, they have gained a reputation for telling Great Lies, and that even cosmetics experts and sleight-of-hand artists like Rove will be hard-pressed to overcome the rich #$%$ history of "kinder and gentler", "compassionate conservative" and "trickle down".

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
73. Thanks to Mitt, under $50,000 is now the largest group
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:12 AM
Dec 2012

I guess we now know what will be on Fox for the next four years: 10 minutes on Benghazi, 10 minutes on how Mitt almost won the election with a different guest every time.

 

leftlibdem420

(256 posts)
78. what he forgot to mention
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:50 PM
Dec 2012

All the scientists - America's best and brightest - who voted for Obama and all the morans populating the vapid, hypocritical mega churches who voted for romney.

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