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Polybius

(17,052 posts)
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 01:28 PM Sep 14

Pope Francis criticizes Trump and Harris and says voters must choose between 'lesser of two evils'

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Source: CNN

Pope Francis on Friday described the choice US voters must make in the presidential election as one between the “lesser of two evils,” deeming former President Donald Trump’s anti-migrant policies and Vice President Kamala Harris’ support of abortion rights as both being “against life.”

“One must choose the lesser of two evils. Who is the lesser of two evils? That lady or that gentleman? I don’t know,” Francis said during a press conference on the papal plane, referring to Harris and Trump. “Everyone with a conscience should think on this and do it.”

Francis has been more vocal about politics than his predecessors and has moved to make the Catholic Church more open. While he has consistently and strongly defended the Catholic Church’s teaching that abortion is the deliberate destruction of a human life, Francis has also insisted it cannot be isolated from other issues concerning human life, including immigration.

“To send migrants away, to leave them wherever you want, to leave them … it’s something terrible, there is evil there. To send away a child from the womb of the mother is an assassination, because there is life. We must speak about these things clearly,” he said.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/politics/pope-francis-trump-harris-abortion/index.html

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Pope Francis criticizes Trump and Harris and says voters must choose between 'lesser of two evils' (Original Post) Polybius Sep 14 OP
Meh. twodogsbarking Sep 14 #1
As a non- Catholic Charlie Chapulin Sep 14 #2
A soft recommendation to clothespin vote for Trump. Eugene Sep 14 #3
Fuck that rapist and pedophile enabler... JT45242 Sep 14 #4
The Boy Scouts, the Baptists, the Mormons, and many other organizations pnwmom Sep 14 #6
Fuck the Pope. Autumn Sep 14 #5
He's not supposed to be endorsing a candidate, and he isn't. pnwmom Sep 14 #8
Quite the stretch there. Autumn Sep 14 #13
Would that meddling BOSSHOG Sep 14 #7
This is the opposite of meddling. He isn't endorsing either one. pnwmom Sep 14 #10
Maybe the Pope should spare some thought for others who will be hurt by drumpf's extreme policies. greatauntoftriplets Sep 14 #9
Did you even read the OP? The Pope has strongly expressed his support for the immigrants. pnwmom Sep 14 #11
Stay in your lane, Francis sakabatou Sep 14 #12
Locking Yonnie3 Sep 14 #14

twodogsbarking

(11,862 posts)
1. Meh.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 01:31 PM
Sep 14

Charlie Chapulin

(279 posts)
2. As a non- Catholic
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 01:31 PM
Sep 14

I’ve never had much use for any Pope, anyway.

I think he is just as afraid of a strong woman of color as the Orange Man.

Eugene

(62,565 posts)
3. A soft recommendation to clothespin vote for Trump.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 01:32 PM
Sep 14

That "lesser evil" need not be named to the observant flock.

JT45242

(2,710 posts)
4. Fuck that rapist and pedophile enabler...
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 01:33 PM
Sep 14

They need to go after the RCC as the biggest child molestation racket ever.

No more hands off. It is a criminal enterprise that moves pedophiles from one jurisdiction to another. Minister and school officials are mandatory reporters and the RCC does not

Fuck him and all the upper levels of the Roma. Catholic Crime syndicate

pnwmom

(109,403 posts)
6. The Boy Scouts, the Baptists, the Mormons, and many other organizations
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 01:40 PM
Sep 14

have turned out to be harboring pedophiles.

Pedophiles go wherever children are left with trusted adults.

Autumn

(45,842 posts)
5. Fuck the Pope.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 01:38 PM
Sep 14

pnwmom

(109,403 posts)
8. He's not supposed to be endorsing a candidate, and he isn't.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 01:42 PM
Sep 14

His position, though, is actually more moderate than many American Bishops, who have been loudly taking the position that abortion is the worst evil.

He's actually giving permission to devout Catholics to decide Trump's Presidency would be worse than Harris's.

Autumn

(45,842 posts)
13. Quite the stretch there.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 01:52 PM
Sep 14

Fuck him and his pseudo morality.

BOSSHOG

(39,093 posts)
7. Would that meddling
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 01:42 PM
Sep 14

Mean the Catholic Church should lose its tax exempt status? Turn loose the assessors. The Catholic Church doesn’t give a damn about the separation.

I was a Catholic for too long.

pnwmom

(109,403 posts)
10. This is the opposite of meddling. He isn't endorsing either one.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 01:44 PM
Sep 14

Unlike the Bishops, who largely prioritize the abortion fight, he is saying voters need to decide which candidate THEY think is worse. He's leaving open the possibility that millions will decide Trump is worse.

greatauntoftriplets

(176,553 posts)
9. Maybe the Pope should spare some thought for others who will be hurt by drumpf's extreme policies.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 01:44 PM
Sep 14

Immigrants who will be deported back to the gods know what.

Political prisoners.

Senior citizens who will lose Social Security and Medicare, possibly hastening deaths.

Living children who will likely face Medicaid/WIC type program cuts or elimination.

Veterans who will have to use a privatized VA.

etc.

pnwmom

(109,403 posts)
11. Did you even read the OP? The Pope has strongly expressed his support for the immigrants.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 01:45 PM
Sep 14

He's leaving the door open for Catholics to decide that the well-being of immigrants is even more important than fetuses.

sakabatou

(42,795 posts)
12. Stay in your lane, Francis
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 01:49 PM
Sep 14

Yonnie3

(17,984 posts)
14. Locking
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 02:01 PM
Sep 14

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