Domino's founder sues feds over health care law

[Panasonic]

Source: 9News/AP

DETROIT (AP) - The founder of Domino's Pizza is suing the federal government over mandatory contraception coverage in the health care law.

Tom Monaghan, a devout Roman Catholic, says contraception isn't health care but a "gravely immoral" practice.

He filed a lawsuit Friday in federal court. It also lists as a plaintiff Domino's Farms, a Michigan office park complex that Monaghan owns.

Monaghan offers health insurance that excludes contraception and abortion for employees. The new federal law requires employers to offer insurance including contraception coverage or risk fines.


Read more: http://www.9news.com/money/305201/344/Dominos-founder-sues-feds-over-health-care-law-

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Another pizza store to boycott and I have been boycotting Dominos since 1993 ever since they served one to me that wasn't a real pizza but a cardboard type bland crap.

[jpak]

1. Domino's is gravely immoral excuse for a pizza

suckage

yup

[lordsummerisle]

30. lol n/t

[Crow73]

56. PR

This helps how?
Over and over we see these douches pull this and then have to come out and apologize for being a douche

[Joey Liberal]

61. LOL

[SunSeeker]

77. DUzy!

[Pauldg47]

106. He does not own it anymore....

....I think it is a better product now though. As for Tom; well he is a very strange person.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

2. How does someone that stupid get that rich?

[unblock]

4. getting rich is rarely about being smart.

smart (and otherwise capable) can make you useful to someone else, and therefore can be a big part of getting a nice, comfortable job.

getting super-rich, by contrast requires requires an ability to get smart (and otherwise capable) people to serve you and be willing to let you have the lion's share of the loot. that's a very different talent.

[heaven05]

6. ask

mitt.

[RKP5637]

26. K&R !!!

[hobbit709]

9. Nobody's ever gone broke underestimating the stupidity of the American public.

[RKP5637]

27. Often I've said US = United Stupidity. I hate to say so, but so often it's reality anymore. n/t

[hobbit709]

31. "If you bet on greed and stupidity, you won't be wrong too often."

[RKP5637]

33. Yeah, that's a good bet! n/t

[CheapShotArtist]

95. Because his chain makes a quality product and

can open up restaurants nationwide. And because not enough people know and/or care about his politics. Same with WalMart.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

96. Haven't had Dominos in 35 years but back in college when I was first introduced to it, we called it:

"ketchup on cardboard." It really was that lousy. The one thing it seemed to have going for it was lots of college kids for cheap labor available to deliver it at odd hours. If it's since become a 'quality product' I have to admit I never would have guessed it was possible.

[drm604]

97. Quality product?

I guess you don't live in an area that has real pizza parlors. None of the big chains have a quality product.

[Freddie]

3. Yes, it's "gravely immoral" to prevent women from dying in childbirth

A dear relative of mine has a heart condition and was told that pregnancy and childbirth would be fatal if she were to attempt it. Her doctor sternly recommended that she get her tubes tied, which she did; she and her husband have a very cherished adopted daughter.
So, Mr. Monaghan, should she have died by now?
And their pizza sucks.

[Mike Nelson]

5. I am sorry for the workers at Dominos, but...

I am not a devout Roman Catholic and I refuse to buy their product.

[heaven05]

7. I

haven't had one of his pizzas since the 80's I think. This guy is nuts.

[graywarrior]

8. Why are all the pizza moguls selfish crazy mo fos?

[Coyotl]

50. Flour, cheap cheese, and tomato sauce for big bucks

Sounds like a formula that attracts profiteers!

[graywarrior]

55. One of my friends was in love with a pizza guy coz he could flip the dough.

She'd drag us to his pizza shop so she could gawk at him. He was an idiot.

[gauguin57]

10. I've been boycotting Domino's for decades -- since back when Monaghan actually ran the company

... and was using his pizza-gotten gains to support anti-choice causes. He lived in a Catholic orphanage for a while as a child, apparently, and is just extremely Catholic. He sold his controlling interest in Domino's back in the late 1990s -- to BAIN CAPITAL! (he sold his stake in the Detroit Tigers, too), and sold off a lot of his more expensive possessions/real estate to build a Catholic law school and a Catholic university, start anti-poverty programs in Central and South America and start a Catholic mutual fund.

He's done some good with his money; he's also set back the cause of women's reproductive rights -- and, obviously, continues to.

[Stuart G]

12. thanks for posting this...k and r. nt.

[Joe Bacon]

18. I stopped dealing with them when Operation Rescue came to Los Angeles.

Monaghan was financing them. When I wast a pizza, I'll go to a good local store that doesn't trash women.

[They_Live]

65. That's right.

Thanks for the informative post. I've been boycotting Domino's since I found out he was anti-choice, back in the 80's.

We need a boycotting guide. It's getting hard to keep track of all the place I want to boycott. Then I start listing them and realize that I don't usually shop there anyway....

Domino's
Papa John's
Chick Fil A
Coke
McDonald's
Applebee's
Denny's
WalMart
Hobby Lobby



er...maybe it's Own Thread.

SHOP LOCAL!

[llmart]

104. That Catholic law school....

is Ave Maria Law School which used to be in Ann Arbor, Michigan but moved to Naples, Florida. Their sole purpose in teaching law students is to overturn Roe v Wade.

It's a shitty law school and shitty pizza.

[jehop61]

11. Ave Maria

is the name of a town in Fl that Monahan founded. You can't buy ANY birth control there. Good news is it's filled with retirees!

[Richardo]

13. That place is like a movie set in Westworld.

[DBoon]

35. Do police uniforms look like the Spanish Inquisition?

NT

[Festivito]

14. This is easy. There shouldn't be a fine, there should be a fee.

He wants us to police his workers for possibly having birth control and abortion coverage. There should be a fee for that. We can work up a price schedule depending on what kind of insurances for not having these options granted he would prefer for that.

1. Does he want the offending members of his organization reported to him. $10 per month per person.
2. Does he want training for all physicians and responders to review all contracts before they might give out these options. $100 per month.
3. Does he want guards posted at all hospitals to warn other workers to not let these people have certain options. $1,000 per person per month.
4. Does he want guards at all hospitals keeping it from happening by constantly checking what the hospital is doing at any time and stopping it mid-procedure if happening. $10,000 per person per month.

Please check one and send in your payments on time.

ON EDIT: These prices are subject to change and may depend on size of workforce.

[still_one]

15. I don't eat at Domino's and now I never will

[CBHagman]

16. I wish they'd put this level of effort into making sure EVERYONE had health care.

Catholic social teaching is that health care is a right, not a privilege, and so I'm disappointed that over the decades (not merely years, decades) I've seen no sign that the church intends to put their weight behind that view. In fact in one case, Catholic Charities in D.C., couples coverage was eliminated when same-sex marriage was made legal.

Getting back to Domino's specifically, I recall only too well Monaghan's advice that people on limited incomes could easily get by on a diet of dry milk and meal. I wish I were exaggerating, but I'm not. In any event, that gives you some idea where he stands in terms of empathy for his less fortunate brothers and sisters.

[eggplant]

17. Funny, he doesn't object to the non-kosher nature of his pizza.

Isn't that also gravely immoral?

Or having his drivers running deliveries on the sabbath?

Or...?

Oh, wait, that's right. He's just a pompous ass. I'd boycott, but it's hard to stop buying something I haven't bought in 20+ years.

[Joe Bacon]

19. He sees nothing wrong with liars who start wars as well.

Monaghan is a typical American Christian who talks the Jesus talk, but walks the Ayn Rand walk.

[They_Live]

103. Make that "temper tantrum throwing liars who start wars"...

...remember that we need to set an example for the children of how to stamp our feet, throw a fit, and hold our breath until we get to invade and plunder whatever country we want.

[bobclark86]

67. Cheese and beef, beotches...

That's uber OK. Does he also ban women from working on their period or banning poly/cotton blend uniforms?

[lz1122]

20. Anybody know how to find out it if a local Dominos is owned by a franchisee and not the corporation?

I have a Dominos right around the corner from me, I order there several times due to convenience. I have conceded the fact that this is Miami and you are not going to get Jersey quality pizza so when I want pizza this is out of sheer convenience. It is to the point that I order online and they know my name as when I go to pick it up they see me and know who I am without evening asking me my name for the order.

After this I will not order Dominos anymore and would like to get a chance to write to find out if the store I order from is individually owned. If so I would like to write the owner expressing my opinion and letting them know I will now longer do business with them and why.

[Panasonic]

23. Dude, dominos pizza will always eternally suck. I don't care if it's right next door to you.

The idea here is to boycott Domino's and look for a local family owned pizza joint.

I found one almost immediately after we dumped Papa John's.

Wife loves the local pizza - so we haven't been elsewhere ever since.

I'm also trying to *convince* my wife that Marco Pizza (another chain pizza joint) isn't worth it either.

[mwb970]

94. The local shops tend to be better.

I too switched to local when I ditched Papa John's. Better pizza, better owner.

[bulloney]

21. First, their pizzas suck, even after they underwent that mea culpa campaign on TV.

Their cheese is grainy or something. It doesn't have the taste and feel of melted cheese. It makes me wonder if it's real cheese. Second, they're skimpy on their toppings and they charge more than most places.

When they had their guaranteed delivery time, they unleashed a bunch of irresponsible drivers who drove like idiots just so that damned pizza made it to its destination on time. I had some goof turn left in front of me and our cars collided. When we got out of our cars, all he could say was, "Oh shit, I've got to get that pizza delivered." Seriously.

[olegramps]

93. I worked at a Italian restaurant while in college. They used top of the line ingredients.

I have had a couple of pizzas from chains and they are terrible in comparison. We buy from a local that makes great pizza. These chains make a huge profit by using inferior ingredients. That includes every damn one of them that also have part time employment to avoid work regulations. The "smart" one like this asshole get rich off of shafting their employees and the public.

[ebbie15644]

22. I emailed them my displeasure

[LynneSin]

24. I'd protest their asses but I haven't bought from Dominos in decades

Monaghan is an anti-choice nut job who donates to anti-choice hate groups. He hasn't seen a dime of my money in decades.

[Coyotl]

25. I am thy Employer and Thou shalt worship my God.

Boycott Domino's Pizza

[Cha]

46. Really. I am the Big

Cheeze.

[Kyad06]

28. Used to live on that crap back in college

$5 a pie was tough to beat. At least he provides health coverage minus contraception, Papa Asshole dosent even what to do that. I live in Jersey, we have hundreds of real pizza parlors so I don't eat either of those crap pies

[Sirveri]

80. Can't get them that cheap at Dominoes anymore, but you can get Little Ceasers for that.

And it tastes better, they're based in Detroit which needs the money, and I've heard they're liberals.

[Swede Atlanta]

29. No, moron....

overpopulating the planet with too many people, having children that you cannot support emotionally, financially or practically is immoral.

We are at a point on this planet where we need to do everything we can to slow or stop population growth. There is not enough food, enough potable water, enough housing, jobs, health care, etc. for the billions we have now.

I consider the Catholic and Mormon churches with their "have as many as possible" cultures as two of the most immoral forces in our culture. I realize that most American Catholics use birth control as undoubtedly do many Mormons. But the public position of those churches is that sex is great, encouraged if not mandated as long as it is heterosexual, the man is on top and the sole purpose is to make more babies.

Most sane American Protestant churches such as mine take a different approach. We celebrate new life as a gift from God but we strongly encourage families to engage in soulful planning. We offer courses in financial planning, family planning (things couples need to think about and plan as they consider establishing a family) and then try to work with families to create environments that are loving and caring. We don't care if a family has one or six children but we consider the birth of each child as something that needs to be carefully planned so that the child, and the family, are positioned for love and, ultimately, success.

[Buddaman]

32. Hey Tom...Guess what?

Fuck you..........

[Sarah Ibarruri]

34. Papa John's and Domino's have lost another customer. Looks like it's Pizza Hut from now on! nt

[DBoon]

36. or maybe not

A&W, KFC, Long John Silver’s, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell - owned by YUM! Brands.
The Center for Responsive Politics reports that 87 percent of the donations by the Yum! Brands PAC have gone to Republicans in this election cycle.

From:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/lauriebennett/2012/07/23/red-plate-blue-plate-fast-food-by-political-persuasion/

Try Dairy Queen or Jack-in-the-Box. Caesar's Pizza appears to donate to both parties

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

40. I prefer to patronize my neighborhood independant pizza joints.

[alp227]

44. +1 so do i, there's a local pizza place just a block from my university's library. I go there.

Great pizza as well as multiple HDTV's showing various sporting events.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

69. Ah, thanks! Looks like it's going to be Tony's pizzeria for me - a local pizza place

It's great pizza, and it's locally-owned. Thanks for the info.

[Speck Tater]

37. Another fool alienates half his customer base. May he pay the consequences...

and lose half his customers.

[csziggy]

38. He needs a visit from the Nuns on the Bus!

They would explain morality to him.
http://nunsonthebus.com/

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

39. Then as an atheist I should have the right to not hire Christians

They might give their money to a church which would go on to spread their propaganda. Not to mention how many priests have turned out to be child molesters.

[Great Caesars Ghost]

43. Nah, christians will sue.

Now political beliefs is NOT a legal class, so you don't have to hire right wingers.

[question everything]

41. I never understood why, during long hours on the Hill

Democrats would order in Domino Pizza. I think that I've even complained to my then senator Barbara Boxer.

[alp227]

45. they really do?

[question everything]

54. They used to, in the 90s

Have not followed on this topic recently, especially since Monaghan left Domino's.

[OneAngryDemocrat]

42. Hey, dumbass Domino's guy... Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's

Hey, dumbass Domino's guy? No one is fucking asking you to stop sperm from swimming with your tongue - just your bank account. And unless something really messed up has happened since I was last at the bank, your currency - the same as mine - was embossed with the Great Seal of the United States of America, and not with either God's seal or that of the Vatican. Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and render unto God that which is God's, mother fucker.

[kwassa]

53. do you mean Little Caeser's?

Pizza, of course

[albear]

47. Time to boycott this other crappy pizza company!

I wrote out ever having Papa John's now I'll be adding this to the list! Now my other crap pizza that many call it, Pizza Hut remains my favorite. Please keep your mouth quiet about the Affordable care act if you don't like it will ya?

[ReRe]

48. Sheeeeeut!

There ain't going to be any pizza left to buy. (Just kidding...I don't eat pizza.)

[judesedit]

49. They don't want abortion & don't want contraception but they won't keep the dam thing in their pants

Right? That's the common way of becoming pregnant, I believe.

[riverbendviewgal]

51. BOYCOTT

It works...I remember the grape boycott in the 70s.

[SoapBox]

83. Ditto to the BOYCOTT.

[cstanleytech]

90. Well seeing as Domino's pizza sucks and I havent bought one in 12+ years I dont have any issue with

a boycott.

[Historic NY]

52. What do the Irish know about pizza? Mr. Monaghan...

Domino's its like bread with ketchup sauce.

[geomon666]

57. I'd like to thank all of these neocon restaurant owners

They make it a lot easier to decide not to eat out.

[benld74]

58. Domi - NO - mores for my family~

[kestrel91316]

59. No shock here. Monaghan and Domino's are major funders of anti-abortion terrorism.

[NYC Liberal]

60. The consequences of "corporate personhood"

Corporations are not humans and as such should not be able to claim rights, like religious freedom.

Owners of corporations want it both ways. They don't want to be personally liable for actions of the corporation (one of the purposes of forming one), yet they challenge legal requirements of the corporations if their own, individual morals are offended.

[2Design]

62. wow I liked their pizza - but this will end it

[Trajan]

63. I cannot boycott Domimo's any more than I already do ...

He is a well known RW fruitcake .....

[southern_belle]

64. Fuck Domino's along with

Appleby's, Papa Johns, etc., etc., etc.

[maindawg]

66. hey Monaghan

America, love it or leave it !

[loyalkydem]

68. Guess what until you drop this nonsense, I buy no more pizza from you

[southerncrone]

70. Ok, so what does Pizza Hut have to say. Are they a crap

a-hole pizza joint, too? They're the only ones who haven't shown their teabagger hand yet.

Looks like I'll be making my own pizza at home. Mine's a lot better anyway. Screw 'em.

[davidpdx]

71. I hope they get twice as much bad press as Bastard John did

[leanforward]

72. Health Care is immoral?

I think not. My family and I have enjoyed some fine pizza from Dominos. We've got a franchise a block away, easy walk. If Dominos wants my business, then he can keep quiet and go public that he's reconsidered his suit. And don't pull a Snyder on us. A Snyder is Quisling of WWII. I don't wish Monaghan or Snyder the same fate of Quisling.
To quote Mark Twain, Mr. Monaghan "never pass up an opportunity to keep your mouth shut".

[SpartanDem]

73. FYI he sold his stake in Domino's in 1998

not that I'd buy their pizza because it sucks.

[bucolic_frolic]

74. You Got Rhythm, I Got Rhythm

The Rhythm Method is practiced by many Catholics

That makes them gravely immoral

[JesterCS]

75. FACT:

Tom Monaghan sold Domino’s Pizza in 1998 and today has NO active affiliation with Dominos Pizza

[Ikonoklast]

100. He sold a *majority* interest in Dominoes, still retains a 7% ownership.

He also retained a 27% voting stake.

He is directly affiliated, he owns a stake in, profits from, and votes on how the business is run to this very day.

[RedstDem]

76. ....and the next wingnut steps forward

FFS, plz stop with the wacked out pizza flippers..........

[SunSeeker]

78. How is aborting a tubal pregnancy that will kill the mother and the already doomed fetus immoral?

Even if you believe some abortion is immoral, how can one say all abortion is immoral? Worse yet, how dare a pizza chain insist on a religious test for employment? Tom Monaghan is an American Taliban.

[Jack Rabbit]

79. No, Tom, misogyny is immoral

If you have a problem with healthy women making their own decision after consulting their, then you are a misogynist. I don't care where you got the misinformation about women that made you one.

Contraception is responsible family planning.

[NICO9000]

81. Why does crappy pizza and RW idiots go together so well?

Papa John Shitner, Herman "Beki Beki Beki" Cain, and this idiot.

[silhouete2]

82. Why in the hell does my employer have a right to decide what is covered or not under my healthcare

I could give 2 spits whether or not my employer agrees with what I do with my own body. It's none of their business. I just don't understand this country. People will scream about how carrying a concealed weapon is a right but healthcare is only a privilege.

[lbrtbell]

84. If you're against abortion, you'd better be pro-contraception

Also, contraceptives are indeed used for health issues.

Fuck them and their shit pizza.

[no_hypocrisy]

85. Get to know Tom Monaghan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Monaghan

[KansDem]

86. Oh, man! No more tomato sauce on cardboard?

Whatever am I going to do?!!

[UtahLib]

87. How many years have you been married Monaghan?

I certainly hope you haven't been sneaking birth control and have the appropriate number of kids, you hypocritical maggot.

[iandhr]

88. I am sick and tired of people trying to impose their beliefs on others.

Don't approve of abortion... then don't get one.


Don't approve of contraception.... then don't use it.

[BainsBane]

89. Anxious to go the way of Papa John's

and have their sales and stock value tank. I wish them great success with that.

It's crap pizza, even worse than Papa Johns.

[kentauros]

91. I haven't had Abominoes in years.

And I've never actually ordered from them (usually lazy and/or cheap co-workers get it for some office event.)

If I want delivery pizza these days, I order from Canadian-based Sarpino's. Whereas when I eat out for pizza, it's the superior local pizzeria, Star Pizza

[Roy Rolling]

92. *sigh*

There is no amount of advertising money that can overcome the bad publicity of taking a political stand like this. I crossed Papa Johns off of the shopping list, now Dominoes.

[Quantess]

98. Your arteries thank you! (no text)

[jeanmarc]

99. How long has this moron been married?

If longer than 14 years (he has 14 kids), he's been immorally using the rhythm method of contraception.

[Peregrine]

101. He hasn't owned Dominoes for decades

Ave Maria, the town and college he built in FL, tried to outlaw porn and contraception. The courts frowned on that.

[Panasonic]

102. So it's just another cookie cutter town

just heavily Catholic-influenced town?

[llmart]

105. It's freakville.

Sort of like Tammy and Jim Baker's hotel complex in South Carolina (the name of it escapes me at the moment). You get creeped out just going there.

[blkmusclmachine]

107. Never order Dominos

Don't like their politics.

[coldbeer]

108. I do not recall eating a dominoes, ever

Now I never will.

[rocktivity]

109. Don't they realize that they're doing exactly what they're accusing the law of doing

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Unconstitutionally forcing their religious views upon others?


rocktivity

[eyewall]

110. I think having sex for the mere pleasure of it is perfectly moral

as long as it's consensual and between adults. How can anyone justify turning physical intimacy, the most compelling definition of PRIVACY, into a political discussion? This is where the entire debate goes off the tracks. They're talking about something that is nobody's business. Contraception is not illegal and neither is sex. Politicians should be protecting our privacy.

They must not remember Woody Allen's brilliant observation. "Sex without love is an empty experience, but as empty experiences go it's one of the best."

[christx30]

111. Statement from Dominos:

"Earlier this week, news stories came out that Domino's Pizza founder Tom Monaghan had filed suit against the federal government regarding healthcare. Since that time, the story has been widely misreported to indicate Domino's was involved in this action which is completely untrue. Tom Monaghan sold Domino's Pizza in 1998 and today has NO active affiliation with our company. The media often neglect to note this fact. His views are not our views, nor are his actions in any way related to our actions. Domino's Pizza has made no public statements about health care, as we are still waiting to see how the final rules will affect our network of small business owners. Domino's is not a political company; it is not a religious company - we are a pizza company."

I personally love their pizza. It's cheap and good, and I can send to my wife and kids when they are away.