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Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 10:51 PM Dec 2012

Senate Dems Balk At Last-Minute GOP Fiscal Cliff Demand

Source: Talking Points Memo

The parties are nearing agreement that the Bush tax rates, including on capital gains, should be locked in for income up to a minimum of $450,000. Republicans would like to kick that up to over $500,000. Democrats are also prepared to make permanent the current low estate tax, which is set to increase, and apply to much less valuable estates, in 2013.

In exchange, Democrats are asking to extend expiring unemployment benefits, and Medicare physician payments, without offsetting spending cuts.

The net effect of the measure would likely not reduce the deficit. But it would set up a spending-cut cliff early next year. And Democrats are balking. They insist that automatic spending cuts scheduled to take effect later this week be put off for longer than three months, as Republicans have offered.

And on the Senate floor Monday morning, Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA), chairman of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, panned the deal, and argued that any deal should be cut from a post New Year’s baseline after all the Bush tax cuts have expired.


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These four paragraphs are lower in the article...So we don't really know what the final deal is..but the Republicans look like they will get their way on the estate tax...and the 450,000 number. I wonder if progressive dems will go against the deal, as the article kinda implies..
We will know in a couple of hours..or so..
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Senate Dems Balk At Last-Minute GOP Fiscal Cliff Demand (Original Post) Stuart G Dec 2012 OP
All it sounds like is more "We'll deal with it later" Zephie Dec 2012 #1
Sounds like you are correct to me..we will know soon...nt Stuart G Dec 2012 #2
We're giving away some long-term concessions Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #3
absolutely. This is a HUGE loss for Democrats. bowens43 Dec 2012 #4
Randi called it loyalkydem Jan 2013 #5
Why didn't we just take the plunge? janx Jan 2013 #6

Zephie

(1,363 posts)
1. All it sounds like is more "We'll deal with it later"
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 10:57 PM
Dec 2012

But maybe I'm misunderstanding. We're just moving the drive off the cliff off by a few months is what I got out of this.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
3. We're giving away some long-term concessions
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 11:19 PM
Dec 2012

on tax cuts for the wealthy in return for short-term benefits like Unemployment Insurance & temporary fixes to provider reimbursement rates for Medicare.

It doesn't smell like a winner to me.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
4. absolutely. This is a HUGE loss for Democrats.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 11:27 PM
Dec 2012

Once again Democrats refuse make a stand. When the going gets tough Democrats run away. 'No deal' would have been preferable. Then we would have the needed revenue and huge cuts in military spending. And of course now that they try to sneak this in at the very last moment on New Years eve it's not even possible to protest to our representatives.

The way this was done is slimy...

loyalkydem

(1,678 posts)
5. Randi called it
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:36 AM
Jan 2013

Randi Rhodes said there would be a deal at the last minuet. I wanted us to go off the cliff.

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