Former NRA President Equates Gun Laws With Racism
Source: Talking Points Memo
Those looking for moderation and sensitivity in the gun control debate probably, by this point, know better than to look to the National Rifle Association.
But even by the standards of what weve heard from the NRA recently, comments made by former NRA president Marion Hammer earlier this week stand out.
Appearing on an episode of the NRA news show The Daily News on Wednesday, Hammer concluded a discussion of the prospects on gun control initiatives prompted by the Newtown, Conn. massacre by drawing a comparison between attempts to ban guns and racism.
And they even admit this is about banning the ugliest guns, its about cosmetics and it has nothing to do about how a firearm works, host Ginny Simone said toward the end of the segment.
Read more: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/01/nra_marion_hammer_guns_racism.php?ref=fpa
These right-wing talking points are openly parroted by some on DU.
samsingh
(17,594 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)I see people pointing out some of the unfortunate racist history gun control legislation has had in the past (Jim Crow, anti-immigrant laws, etc.)
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)They should be ashamed.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)But, yeah, for the most part the civil rights questions are pretty minor and I guess that does get overblown.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)of so-called assault weapons, and account for the majority of carry permits to protect them from irrational fears.
The yahoos are the ones we need to be concerned about nowadays.
bongbong
(5,436 posts)After all, we know that changing one's skin color is as easy as buying a gun.
Gman
(24,780 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,831 posts)>>>the kinds of rapid fire, high capacity weapons that need to be restricted. You go into the gungeon and say "assault weapon" and they line up to tell you no such thing exists. Maybe we should start from scratch with a new term like "mass killer weapons" or "asshole weapons" then define it for them.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)who doesn't understand coherent thought, let alone logical reasoning.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)Its not NRA talking points, its US history...
daleo
(21,317 posts)Was the Brady Bill classist or racist? Is there some connection between owning an automatic weapon and being politically liberal on race and/or class? Alternatively, are gun control advocates usually racists?
It doesn't seem that way based on the people that I have known.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Meaning "I'm fine with exurban white people having guns".
Alternatively, are gun control advocates usually racists?
Given that the founders of the Brady Campaign are Republicans? Yes. Along with Bloomberg and Giuliani. Yes again.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)One can also argue that there are unintentional racial impacts. Back when there was real EEO/Affirmative action in the US, that could get you filed upon.
daleo
(21,317 posts)Or that whites can have guns, but not anyone else?
If so, please quote them.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)By making it more expensive (or much more expensive) as some here have proposed, it is making it harder for the non-rich to own weapons. De Facto classism
daleo
(21,317 posts)Logically, the government would have to provide all citizens with free guns, in order to mitigate the inherent classism of gun ownership itself, since the rich can always afford more and better guns.
Alternatively, strict laws against any gun ownership would eliminate this classism completely, so anyone concerned with classism or racism should be in favor of gun control.
Journeyman
(15,031 posts)And if not, why hasn't someone in that "4 million strong" organization stepped forward with a better-led, better-managed organization?
I can't imagine that every gun owner feels they are competently represented by the loonies the NRA puts forth at every turn.
billh58
(6,635 posts)of them feel that the "cold, dead hands" kind of representation is just peachy keen.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)However, this time they were not as effective in local elections as they have been in the past
NickB79
(19,233 posts)So, they had nothing to use to motivate gun owners in the last election. No red meat to fire up the 80 million gun owners in this country.
If Sandy Hook had happened a year ago and the same debates on gun control and gun bans we're having now had occurred then, I'd bet money we'd be bitching about President Romney right now.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)Some claim to be liberal, but most make the NRA look like the nice guys
bemildred
(90,061 posts)billh58
(6,635 posts)gun hoarders name their guns, and stroke them, and kiss them goodnight.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)... you need to get to a place where even if that were so, it wouldn't bother you like it does. That's a tribalist kind of disdain and it keeps us from getting anywhere on this issue: gun owners know that at a very basic level your problem isn't with guns, it's with them.
stultusporcos
(327 posts)There are a whole bunch of RW gun owners out there who would not think twice about shooting Liberals and Progressives if they had the opportunity which is the #1 reason why I am a gun owner.
jpak
(41,757 posts)Bless his widdle heart
yup