Unhinged Tactical Response CEO Threatens To ‘Start Killing People’ Over Obama’s Gun Control
Source: Rawstory
The CEO of a Tennessee company that specializes weapons and tactical training is threatening to start killing people if President Barack Obama moves forward with gun control measures.
In a video posted to YouTube and Facebook on Wednesday, Tactical Response CEO James Yeager went ballistic over reports that the president could take executive action with minor gun control measures after the mass shooting of 20 school children in Connecticut last month.
---CLIP
Im telling you that if that happens, its going to spark a civil war, and Ill be glad to fire the first shot. Im not putting up with it. You shouldnt put up with it. And I need all you patriots to start thinking about what youre going to do, load your damn mags, make sure your rifles clean, pack a backpack with some food in it and get ready to fight.
The CEO concluded: Im not fucking putting up with this. Im not letting my country be ruled by a dictator. Im not letting anybody take my guns! If it goes one inch further, Im going to start killing people.
Raw Story (http://s.tt/1yf6S)
Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/10/unhinged-tactical-response-ceo-threatens-to-start-killing-people-over-obamas-gun-control/
CanonRay
(14,097 posts)when they take to the hills and the National Guard cleans them out. Maybe we best get this over with, because I think it is coming. I saw the same signs in the 90's when Clinton was in office. They get crazier and crazier until something like Oklahoma City happens.
atreides1
(16,070 posts)But I wouldn't let the National Guard get involved...at least not the local National Guard!
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)and killed 168 people, (19 of them under 6, iirc) stated that he did that as a reaction to Waco, not because he got "crazier". He was sane,thoughtful, and deadly, and an Iraq War veteran.
And this guy (btw, I suspect it's the ones we don't read about that we should be concerned with) isn't crazy either, I suspect. He is talking about a response to government regulation and armed agents of the government enforcing it. So the likelihood of similar happenings is probably fairly high. He only used fertilizer and diesel fuel, but people have been hiding and burying much more lethal stuff since the 60's. They are discovered on occasion, some percentage of the total that is out there.
okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)"It is and always has been a matter of time till one of their undocumented students pulls a episode on par with Virginia Tech, or at least as morally wrong and indefensible"
"These same guys just a few years ago would have been labeled Militias and grouped with Tim McViegh and others to be closely watched but they changed their colors a little and redirected their hate a little to get a short time hall pass. I truly believe the media and government agencies will soon be latching back into them as the war continues to go south in Iraq and we have more armed against unarmed citizen shootings inside America"
Sadly, the part this commentator got wrong was the "I truly believe the media and gov't agencies will soon be latching back onto them"
No, the part that hasn't come true is the media has NOT escalated our awareness of these type guys. Nor villified them.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)some shows and hand out a little literature. Then a few crimes and murder.
People call him "crazy", and I just don't see the evidence. He took what he learned as a soldier and killed people, and from then on defended his position, and was executed.
He, like any revolutionary, went after the sitting government, and there are people like that throughout history. Their thinking process led them to think that killing a bunch of people would fix anything. Something like our Drone policy in Afghanistan perhaps. And he had a reasonably high intelligence, from what I've read.
I was just pointing out that thinking of people as idiots or mentally broken may cause us to miss the real candidates. Might need a better search filter.
BlueNoteSpecial
(141 posts)BlueNoteSpecial
(141 posts)...3350 Hwy 70 E., Camden, Tn. 38320, (731)676-2041. Company has a facebook page, a website, and a ton of problems heading their way, now...
sic 'em, good people!
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)sounds like a toy video game or something.
Any chance someone could have him committed? What a psycho. Who knows if it's all bluster or if he's seriously going to start killing...who exactly? I'm not clear on who he wishes to murder should some gun control laws be enacted.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)"if you enact this policy, I will start killing people".
kevinbgoode1
(153 posts)I've had gun proponents go ballistic on me whenever I mention that everyone is a "law-abiding citizen" until they decide NOT to be. . .
malibea
(179 posts)Can this fool be arrested and put into a secure place for threats such as this? I surely hope so and we do not have to wait until the idiot acts!
lark
(23,083 posts)Put him the freak away before he hurts someone. Jose Padilla didn't do much more than make threats.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)If you set up a tent in a park in front of city hall, you get arrested, maybe even beat up.
But if you threaten people with military equipment unless they do what you want, you get to post your video on YouTube without a problem.
What's wrong with this picture?
malibea
(179 posts)That is exactly what is wrong with this picture: these idiots have been given too much leeway and too much weight, PERIOD!
It is a shame that these idiots have rights under the lst Amendment also; that is the problem with living in a free country! We have to take the bitter with the sweet. We just have to make sure that we have MORE sweet than bitter and the only way we can do this is to limit the bitterness we accept from these fools.
We must not accept ANY of their non-sense bullspit and question their every move-PUBLICLY and out in the open-in the sunshine and away from the closets and bushes they want to hide behind.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)malibea
(179 posts)These scum are nothing but cowards to boot. I bet they will shoot from some stelth (hidden, camoflagued) position and not out in the open where they risk their own life and limb by being shot in return! Of course they will kill themselves after they have killed everyone else- another sign of cowardice- instead of being taken alive and made to face the music of their actions. These scared cowards wouldn't dare take responsbility for what they have done by having something hopefully worse, happening to them. Something like putting them through a whole lot of pain, torture and suffering, before giving them DEATH in the end! That should work.
SharonAnn
(13,772 posts)Between Memphis and Nashville, closer to Nashville.
TygrBright
(20,756 posts)...about whether our laws should de facto permit any wackjob who feels a little homicidal to have access to unlimited numbers of guns with unlimited fire capacity and gigantic magazines.
Yup, totally rethinking that.
Wow.
amazedly,
Bright
sinkingfeeling
(51,444 posts)Tempest
(14,591 posts)He said he will react violently towards political action.
Flabbergasted
(7,826 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Yeah, good luck with that
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Talking about revolution. I just ask him, "Who are you going to shoot? Random people outside your house?" and he just shuts up.
JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)Les Miserables - so he can see what happens to citizen 'revolutionaries' that try to go up against a well trained professional military. Notice how everyone 'supported' a few big talkers that ended up dead? But when push came to shove - the majority chickened out.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)malibea
(179 posts)I would like to know why does he want to shoot ANYONE? If you, or anyone else, asked him and he answers, please let me know. When was the last time your brother had a good psychological evaluation? It might be time-again. Thanks.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And listens to Limbaugh, Beck and Fox news. He has these fantasies about being a 'patriot' and all that nonsense. Whenever he is faced with facts and stats, he starts in with the 'Founding fathers' nonsense, or the 'you are a loyalist' (british loyalist...revolutionary war) nonsense. He is unable to rationally make an argument or defend a position. He hides behind the word "patriot."
He's also absolutely obsessed with "Muslims," go figure lol.
He is a brainwashed idiot, and that's being nice.
malibea
(179 posts)That is too bad, seriously. And I hope he gets some help before he hurts (physically) someone more than himself and his family-more than he has already.
People who are "obsessed" usually LOVE these entities, but HATE themselves for doing so. It is a bitter-sweet, push-pull "thing" with them, which is really what drives them NUTS!
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Like their relationships with family members, friends, work...etc. It taints everything they do.
malibea
(179 posts)As a family counselor, I know that these issues always DRIFT over to the family system and make everybody miserable! The family cares more than this addicted fool does, he is enjoying the fun of it all and everybody else paying the cost and taking the blame for his stupidity. The family always give this a-hole another chance...and another...and another...get the picture?
The "perpetrator" never changes, he/she will go through every family member one, two, or three at a time until everybody is all used up. It is known as "burned bridges".
Remember the mantra: you can pick your friends but not your family! My advice is to get out while you can and let the culprit make it on their own-or not.
Dash87
(3,220 posts)That's what this doofus sounds like - a big, blubbering, whiny man-child.
Botany
(70,483 posts)yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)And you can put a slice of it on that boo boo you got crawling around in drainage ditches. Try that with beef stew.
Botany
(70,483 posts)BTW can you imagine some farmer in Tennessee finding this jerk w/
his back back of food and his guns camping out in his woods while
planning his methods to win his "civil war?"
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Throw in an army surplus blanket, mess kit and water canteen, box of kitchen matches, hatchet, Combination wind up weather radio and flash light, Euell Gibbons "Stalking the Wild Asparagus" and Steven Boga "Orienteering: The Sport of Navigating with Map & Compass" books, boy scout compass, "your choice of up to 5 different topo maps" and charge $995.
(Some items not pictured)
dmallind
(10,437 posts)Is the likelihood that he may, however briefly, succeed before getting what insurrectionists in democracies so richly deserve.
I'm perfectly fine with private ownership of guns. Not so ok with private, or indeed public, calls for armed rebellion.
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)It seems to me to meet the test of clear and imminent danger required for action under sedition laws.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)picked up and reposted on Youtube.
appal_jack
(3,813 posts)This man seems to have come entirely unhinged.
I have spoken plenty recently here at DU about my own opposition to certain gun control measures. And there have been times, good Magistrate, when you & I have found ourselves on opposite sides of this issue. But I know that you & I agree that rational discussion is the best course of action on this and any other political question. It sounds to me (from just reading the quotes: my connection is too slow for video) like this man needs to either chill-out voluntarily, or perhaps face some radical interventions in his near future...
-app
AnnieK401
(541 posts)Hugabear
(10,340 posts)These are exactly the kind of people who shouldn't have guns. Law-abiding citizens my ass.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)there is a swastika under that t shirt.
Hugabear
(10,340 posts)n/t
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I got my wedding ring tattoed on a few years ago. I am not anti-tattoo. But I wonder why these guys always have tattoos. I wonder if they do it because it is unkosher.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)He was very polite and clean cut. Carried a briefcase. I asked if he had a picture of what he meant (just to check, since I was pretty sure I knew.) He had a pic in his briefcase.
I told him I wouldn't do it, but perhaps one of the other artists (who weren't there that day) would be willing.
He very politely said thank you and left.
I didn't tell him I'm Jewish.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)what you must have been feeling. I remember when I was 13 and asked my grandmother's boss what the numbers on his forearm meant. It was a very sobering lesson.
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)awoke_in_2003
My mother had a uncle, who had numbers on his forearm - and in my innocence (I was 3) I asked what it was about... He kind of shuddered - but told me, that he had been in a place where evil ones lived - and that the evils had tattooed a number on his hand to be sure who he was.. Thankfully he was able to leave the evil place, to live where kindness and good persons live. This was a symbols for him - that even evil can be conquered by the good ones.. And I kind of "okay" and that was the last of it..
Years, and years, and years after I understood what he really meant - but then he was dead so I could not say it to him.. (He died in 1988)
I guess it is a sobering lesson, to know what we humans can do to each other if we want - humans can do great things, but human kind is as evil as the darkest parts of Hell if we choose to...
Diclotican
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
I understand your sentiment - but the Iron Cross is not exactly the same as a Swatchica or a SS rune - the Iron Cross was original a knight cross, where was given to soldiers who had doing great deeds in wars - in fact many symbols of the Nazi regime was symbols from long time ago - but was used in a way that ruined the symbols for as long as someone still will be able to remember the nazi regime... If I was in the business - I would refuse to tattoo anything like an iron cross - or other symbols who was known to be used by the nazi-germany regime between 1933 and 1945... Many in may family was fighting the germans - in the resistance, or in service for the king and country in the wars - some died also, in KZ camps - or survived, to be mer skeletons when they come home after the war - and had horrible nightmares for the rest of their natural liefs.. Some principles is to important to have, than to earn some money..
And I understand why you hesitated about tattoo a iron cross - as I doubt anyone would just have a iron cross on their body - if they was not into nazism in one way or another.. Nazisms are not just the hooligans you see on TV now and then.. In many cases some of the worst criminals under Hitler Germany, was clean cut, polite and very civilized - when they ordered millions to their death in east europe.... Some of the worst, Hendrick, Dr Mengele, and many others, was never them selfs bloody and with unclean hands - Dr Mengele is reported to have a clean uniform every day, and spoke in a gentle voice - even as he was sending jews, children, woman and men to their graves in the gas shambers... Pure evils come in many forms - some of the worst, wear often suits when they do their crimes...
Diclotican
Confusious
(8,317 posts)It's a Teutonic Knights cross, and has been around a long, long time.
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)Confusious
I know - but they have always, after the war, when Germany was allowed to have an air force again (after 1949-1955) hold back using the old symbols in germany - mostly because many still had strong feelings about the potent symbols like the Iron cross..
After all - many still live who experienced Germany from a whole different perspective than today - and one have to admit, the symbols is rather potent - even today, more than 60 year after the war...
Diclotican
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)malibea
(179 posts)I had to laugh out loud when I read your comment. That's too funny!
panzerfaust
(2,818 posts)If he looked like this, you know the FBI would be all over it ...
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Another white supremacist group.
frylock
(34,825 posts)i'm really to the point where I wish it would happen. as someone intimated upthread, it's time to rid civilization of vermin like this.
patrice
(47,992 posts)I remember being really puzzled by a man who laughed at my mention of The Real Deal and said smart people would make real money in security & intelligence. I couldn't figure out what alarm systems had to do with spies. I can guess a little bit better now that he was referring to guys like this who grew out of the private war profiteering culture that is responsible for travesties of human justice from Abu Ghraib to today.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Life and death matters should not be handled by those who make a profit off of it. It's profane and leads to obscenity - and by neither of those words am I referring to divinity or sex.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Since your giving prep orders, you forgot a very important one:
"Make sure your life insurance policy is paid and beneficiary named." That way, some good will come from your misguided act.
malibea
(179 posts)In addition to the life insurance policy being paid and the "surviving" bequeathed named, don't forget to "DUCK"! You'll be the first target your opponent will aim for. Jerk!
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Brings to mind "jack booted thugs". I just hope he feel cuffs on his wrists soon, followed by a gist with judge and jury.
okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)From their website:
Today Tactical Response has instructors from all walks of life: military, private citizens, police, PSD contractors, computer professionals, and even a high school principal.
Just a touch of hypocrisy here: (also from website)
NOTICE - ALL of our classes are photographed and or audio/video recorded. If you do not want your image captured make necessary preparations to obscure your identity. It is YOUR responsibility. We will make reasonable concessions to avoid recording you but in the end it could happen and it is your responsibility to avoid it.
So let's make sure I have this, your 2nd amendment rights, inalienable. Your students 4th amendment rights, not so much?
http://www.tacticalresponse.com/
malibea
(179 posts)And make it quick before some other idiot gets the same stupid idea!
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)has you seated in the interrogation room.
PS - nice tattoos - did you do them with a rusty ice pick?
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)Clicked on the link and got "this video removed by user".
Like so many fetishists he talks big then shrivels away when people pay attention.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)with, imo.
The vid in the OP is working...for now.
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)They don't have much of a sense of humor when it comes to such things.
malibea
(179 posts)Typical coward's behavior! Milquetoast is a better name for it! At least that's how we used to describe them.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)These are the types of people whose kids go out and commit mass shootings. The Connecticut shooters mom was a bunker digging, gun toting survivalist type. It is a self perpetuating situation.
Right wing lunacy + no gun control = mass shootings
louis-t
(23,288 posts)They can paint their faces green and sit around a fire talking about the coming 'revolution'. Just stay the hell away from the rest of us.
Redfairen
(1,276 posts)SCVDem
(5,103 posts)the Drones would be loaded and waiting targeting data.
We had less intel on 9-11 NY than we have here. We did nothing.
A confession of intent to start a civil war.
Sounds like a Martin and Bobby or Helter Skelter all over again.
DHS? Hello?!
go west young man
(4,856 posts)Why do these idiots think they would win a war against the US military should it occur? There is no comparison in firepower. One drone strike and they are cooked. They are seriously lacking in intelligence to make threats such as these against the most powerful and advanced military in the world especially in light of the fact that the Obama administration is just putting forth some new regulations and banning military style assault weapons.
dogman
(6,073 posts)This is the effect guns can have on unstable individuals.
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)dogman
(6,073 posts)Wayne seemed so sincere.
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)Pretty damn scarce in the 'tactical response' trade as well....
KansDem
(28,498 posts)panzerfaust
(2,818 posts)"Portland residents panic as men armed with assault weapons educate the city"
"Were not threatening anyone, Drouin explained. We dont have that type of criminal behavior.
This happens to open that line of communication, to let people know that you can defend yourself in a time of crisis or any time that you want to, Boyce added. "
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/11/portland-residents-panic-as-men-armed-with-assault-weapons-educate-the-city/
If you want to have an assault weapon - join the military.
Somehow it seems more a case of >>>
dogman
(6,073 posts)to carry these weapons.
valerief
(53,235 posts)cer7711
(502 posts). . . because the likelihood of right-wing domestic terrorism was raised?
It's time to start calling this group of violent, hysterical white men (like the one featured in the video above) what they really are: wanna-be domestic terrorists.
Unless the hate-filled rhetoric is ratcheted down soon we are going to have a spate of very ugly incidents on our hands . . .
patrice
(47,992 posts)- "killing some people" is a threat to my life.
- My liberty is threatened. I am not free, because I have to fear this guy killing some people, like me, who want gun-control laws strengthened.
- And obviously, if he acts on his wish that will make me and millions of other people very sad, so he's a threat to our happiness too.
In addition to these, this fact shows how gun-ownership behavior will now encumber public resources that I have helped to pay for. Those resources will be involved ON HIS SAY SO, not by any collective sense of the people it will affect.
struggle4progress
(118,273 posts)BlueNoteSpecial
(141 posts)2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)Make threats, lose guns.
oldbanjo
(690 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)d_r
(6,907 posts)he is more important than the majority of the US, then we should all be scared and do what he says. Nothing says democracy and the American way like a bullying minority threatening violence to impose their views.
Cigar11
(549 posts)The US is getting darn good at those Drone strikes ... I'm sure a guided missile up your ass isn't that hard from The Air Force sitting sitting his lazy-boy.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)appleannie1
(5,067 posts)doubt he would kill innocent people to get his way. When adults acting like 2 year olds when told "no" have guns, they are a threat to everyone.
edbermac
(15,937 posts)Good. You can start with yourself.
Asshole.
Pithily, perfectly put.
Dash87
(3,220 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)i don't know, i trashed that forum at the first opportunity.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Gawd...another wannabe dictator. As if everyone is going to surround him and offer themselves to him as a servile minion? He is no Gun Nut version of Rosa Parks. He's just an idiot....who apprently realized that shooting off his mouth prior to really thinking it through wasn't the most brilliant move.lol
Lars39
(26,109 posts)annatee33
(30 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)He will likely need access to chemical weapons and the knowledge of how to use them when he goes ballistic.
This insures he already has both,
it's good for when bullets can't quite kill enough people in case his government dare move one more inch on gun control laws,
terrorism is hard to get right without the proper weapons and training.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Crash his site. Like if we ALL go there at 2pm PST and 5 pm EST.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)annatee33
(30 posts)The guy just threatened to kill people, he named today's date, anybody live around there that can call local law? What if the news does not go his way today or tomorrow?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)September 03, 2012 11:00 AM
By David Neiwert
It's emblematic of just how cowed our federal authorities have been by the right-wing blowback against calling right-wing domestic terrorists what they actually are that the prosecutors in Georgia who recently charged a group of far-right militiamen with plotting carry out a series of attacks in Washington state and to assassinate President Obama took to calling them, in their press announcements, "anarchists" -- which meant, of course, that the media promptly followed suit...
In every other regard, however, these men were indisputably classic right-wing extremists:
-- One of the leaders of the plot, Joseph Aguigui, was a page at the Republican National Convention in 2008.
-- All of the plotters were members of the military and espoused a far-right philosophy, including targeting President Obama for assassination. "I did think that the government needed to change, and I thought that we were the people to be able to change it," one of the plotters told the judge in pleading guilty.
-- The targets of their terrorist acts were generally "liberal" government entities -- poisoning the Washington apple crop, for instance, likely targeted the liberal Seattle consumer market, the main consumers of those crops -- although no one can quite figure out why they targeted Savannah's Forsyth Park...
A lot more is at the link it is why I conclude nothing can be done wholesale, but only incrementally. DHS was cowed by right wing media for their report, which has proved to be accurate in 2009 and is cited at the link and it says we have been living with the results ever since then. This guy is part of that, and due to the common notions of the First Amendment and the belief system of sixty million or more far right, anti-government voters, will go free.:
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/georgia-militia-terrorists-fit-dhs-b
Rider3
(919 posts)Some people should not have access to guns. This guy is one of them. Crazy muther....
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Cheap_Trick
(3,918 posts)just keep making our points for us.
crim son
(27,464 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Crazy Combo
(7 posts)And youtube probably backed up the old copy.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)or encourage others to cause harm.
He just makes the case for dealing with the gun fetish in this country. Anyone who would make such statements clearly should not have access to guns.
barbtries
(28,787 posts)to report this threat and possibly get this whackjob de-weaponized if not jailed?
Smilo
(1,944 posts)are for them.
Disgusting pos - should be locked away.
monstr_duc
(1 post)Dude should seriously lay off coffee, and be mad at the real person sho caused this. His dad for givn him such a small tool to work with.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)fear the government and advocate shooting people.
OK. Good to know.
Gun owners that I know tend to fall into two categories:
Reasonable people who own one or two guns for home protection or hunting who aren't afraid of regulation and those that own guns because they fear government tyranny and harbor fantasies of being part of an armed revolution. One set is sane, the other not.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)In the 70's we were all about waterbeds and mirrors on the ceiling.
This guy would shoot the mirror just to see if the falling glass punctures the waterbed.
Shadowflash
(1,536 posts)He's gonna get the chance to put his money where his mouth is when the Secret Service shows up on his doorstep.
Though, I'm sure he'll fold like a cheap suit and it'll be nothing but 'yes sir' and 'no sir'.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)And let him "chill" in a cell for a few, weeks.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)These people always were this way.
I'm glad that they are coming out of the woodwork to give the rest of society a good look at the pathology we've been ignoring.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)that prevents him from having access to guns?
I hope he succeeded.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)and we'll shoot anybody who says we are.
riqster
(13,986 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei
tblue37
(65,290 posts)dealing with terroristic threats.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)... If that isn't a skinhead, I don't know what one is. I'm so glad he made this announcement. So, what's going to happen now? Homeland Security on High Alert?
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)Botany
(70,483 posts)Last edited Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:18 PM - Edit history (1)
Meet Mr. FBI Swat Man. He has better training, better weapons, better communications,
and much better back up than you have so good Luck w/ your plan. BTW they like to come
visit you @ 4:00 AM when you are sleeping.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)incompetence. Video on youtube and incident report here:
http://hockscombatforum.com/index.php/topic,2690.0.html
Many military types commenting on the story pretty much predicted this.....scary...excerpts from story below:
"In the end him and his group of colleagues will do more damage to Americas fragile gun ownership rights and bring even further legislation against average guy and gal firearms owners in America through their comic book reality weapons and anti-terrorist training."
This part is just friggin' scary:
"It is and always has been a matter of time till one of their undocumented students pulls a episode on par with Virginia Tech, or at least as morally wrong and indefensible and for that matter who is to say Mr. Seung-Hui Cho the murdering psychopath was not trained by them or someone like them since they purposefully keep no records on such matters nor identify participants in their paranoid mentality ask no questions firearms training? These same guys just a few years ago would have been labeled Militias and grouped with Tim McViegh and others to be closely watched but they changed their colors a little and redirected their hate a little to get a short time hall pass. I truly believe the media and government agencies will soon be latching back into them as the war continues to go south in Iraq and we have more armed against unarmed citizen shootings inside America."
Lars39
(26,109 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)it really would be a very good idea to confiscate all guns.
Don't try to convince me that this man is a "responsible" gun owner.
Paladin
(28,246 posts)With Love and Affection,
Every Gun Control Advocate In The United States Of America
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)So this is a guy who charges wannabe gun fighters an average of $250 a day to shoot their own weapons and at targets (if they don't have their own weapons they can conveniently "rent" them, no doubt just as much of a bargain as the "course" or to watch others shoot guns at targets if they just want to be spectators. And he pretends that this prepares them to go and fight - who? What a racket.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Uh huh. Does he really? I see stuff about police officers taking his training, I see nothing about any accreditation for training of police departments. So I suspect that any police officers are forking over their own dough for the training. And he has an impressive list of course titles on an otherwise crappy looking website along with a lot of boasting and tough talk. Color me skeptical. Assuming he really does get jurisdictions to pay him for training their police departments, how long will that continue once they hear his spew promoting armed insurrection?
Don't believe me? Here is a snippet from one of the course descriptions:
High Risk Civilian Contractor - CQB (Raids and Rescues)
5 Days / $1750
Details:
Close Quarters Battle means fighting inside of a structure for the rescue of a client or for a raid. Topics include raid planning, route planning, recon, asset managment, team movement in rural and urban settings, multiple breaches, signals, security, support, elements of an assault and casualty collection.
This is an intense fast paced course. You will be pushed in a series of square range. open terrain, wooded terrain and many CQB scenarios. This course is perfect for the High Risk Civilian Contractor, SWAT cop, or Soldier who is looking for an aggressive close combat course.
We are typically asked what type of physical condition a student should be in to attend this course. There is no easy answer. If you want to get the most out of this course you should be in moderate condition at least. Simply put, if you cannot run 100 yards with full gear (or a 25 pound backpack) you will not get your money's worth. Can you still take the course? We hope you will use this as a motivation for getting yourself "battle ready".
There is no accredited police training academy in the country which does not have a strict set of physical conditioning standards for basic training of police recruits, let alone for an elite training course for a SWAT team - which this purports to be. Anyone who falls for this could find themselves "training" with overweight out of shape dough boys carrying weapons (and paying big bucks for the privilege). What a happy thought. This is laughable. I call bullshit on this guy.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)Seems as though accreditation in TN is voluntary and there doesn't seem to be too many departments that make the effort, considering the number of counties and cities in the state.
I think Yeagar has found a nice little niche market that the good ole boys are falling for.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)Squinch
(50,935 posts)Turbineguy
(37,313 posts)That seems to be code for Americans who want to kill other Americans.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)-snip-
There's ample precedent. After a mass school shooting in Stockton, California, in 1989, George H.W. Bush issued an executive order, pursuant to the 1968 Gun Control Act, that banned imports of certain assault weapons unless used for sporting purposes. Years later, Bill Clinton by executive order banned imports of almost five dozen different assault weapons that had been modified to get through that "sporting purposes" exemption. President Obama could go even further.
-snip-
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/obama-executive-power-debt-ceiling_b_2447359.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
I hope the media will start talking about the EO's that have been issued in the past,
so that folks will not think that President Obama is trying to do something that hasn't been done before - it might calm the right-wing nuts down a bit.
indepat
(20,899 posts)ass. Personally, he sounds like a loudmouthed seditious bastard to me.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)ancianita
(36,017 posts)None of what he's done in the past should make him immune from detention and questioning at the very least. His getting away with this hitting the internet, and then having enough time to walk it back on yet a second video makes me believe that this whole drama of outrageous histrionic trolls is, by design, stochastic terrorism -- by whose design, we should try to find out. Is it all media hype? Paid for by foundations? Individuals? I notice that youtube didn't take it down, yet publicly calling for civil war and claming he will kill is itself a crime.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)that we need complete bans on most firearms and ammunition. Not all gun nuts of them are as outspoken as this shithead but every single gun owner (people who own handguns or assault weapons, not talking hunters here) I have ever spoken with at length about this issue is ready to kill their neighbors if someone threatens to take away their little toys.....
sick, sick people
sendero
(28,552 posts).. "your typical gun owner"? You are as daft as he is.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Same tough guy all hat no cattle look - except the tattoos substitute for the hat.
bubbayugga
(222 posts)siligut
(12,272 posts)He lives in a fantasy world.
bonniebgood
(940 posts)from this American Anwar Awlaki who was kills by the Obama Admin drones in Yemen? The article news say he was plotting terror attacks and propaganda on American citizens.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/01/world/la-fg-awlaki-killed-20111001
Evasporque
(2,133 posts)mikeysnot
(4,756 posts)exhibit A!
IrishAle
(62 posts).. to string you up for acts of high treason that you should have already been charged with.
You are a disgrace to all of Tennessee. And Tennessee being what it has become over the past two decades is saying a lot.
csziggy
(34,135 posts)It generated.
Silver Gaia
(4,542 posts)They saved and have posted a copy of the original video.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)This guy has so many tattoos, perhaps some had lead in the ink, and it is leeching out and getting to his brain. Perhaps he should be examined by a health professional.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)malibea
(179 posts)Just about-in my book !
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)1springhill
(63 posts)omni360 34 minutes ago
This video, before Mr. Yeager edited it, resulted in his CCW Permit being revoked just hours ago. Channel 5 in Nashville has reported that the Tennessee dept. of safety and Homeland Security stated the following: "The number one priority for our department is to ensure the publics safety. Mr. Yeagers comments were irresponsible, dangerous, and deserved our immediate attention. Due to our concern, as well as that of law enforcement, his handgun permit was suspended immediately."
Lars39
(26,109 posts)Welcome to DU, 1springhill !
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)malibea
(179 posts)Good, his handgun permit was suspended immediately. This idiot (yeager) should have never had a permit in the first place! Did anyone check his mental health assessent? He definitely would and should have not passed! What a moron this bastard yeager is?
All of it stems from this BLACK President being elected and re-elected, if the truth be told. When will "they" get over it? If the answer is NEVER, that is fine too. LOCK all of the racist bastards up and throw away the key. Good riddance!
The Wizard
(12,541 posts)to stir up violent dissent is right out of the reich wing playbook. Palin used it frequently on the campaign trail. The fuckers must be neutralized or marched into the sea before they're allowed to do it to normal Americans.
WhoWoodaKnew
(847 posts)talk about stronger gun regulations and they're now totally freaked out.