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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:32 PM Jan 2013

Obama signs bill, gets Secret Service protection for life

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN) – With the stroke of a pen Thursday, President Barack Obama gave himself and his wife Secret Service protection for the rest of their lives.

The new law, which passed the House and Senate in December, designates that all former U.S. presidents who served after January 1, 1997, along with their spouses, receive protection from the Secret Service for their entire lifetimes – meaning former President George W. Bush and his wife Laura are also covered. The law also stipulates that children of presidents receive protection until the age of 16.

Lifetime government-provided security for former presidents was the law of the land until 1997, when Congress passed legislation limiting Secret Service protection to ten years after leaving office.

The 1997 law said any president serving before January 1, 1997 would still receive the lifelong protection. That means with the law signed Thursday, every former president – Jimmy Carter, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush – along with Obama will continue to receive Secret Service details for the rest of their lives.


Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/10/obama-signs-bill-gets-secret-service-protection-for-life/comment-page-1/




Obama signs law giving himself, Bush lifetime Secret Service guard

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President Barack Obama on Thursday signed into a law a measure giving him, George W. Bush and future former presidents and their spouses lifetime Secret Service protection, the White House announced.

The legislation, crafted by Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy of South Carolina, rolls back a mid-1990s law that imposed a 10-year limit on Secret Service protection for former presidents. Bush would have been the first former commander in chief affected.

At the time, lawmakers who supported the measure said it would save the government millions of dollars. They also argued that former presidents could hire private security firms (as Richard Nixon did after he decided to forgo Secret Service protection in 1985).

The bill had sailed through Congress with bipartisan support—it cleared the House of Representatives by voice vote in early December, and then it zipped through the Senate unopposed. The law also provides protection for former presidents’ kids until age 16. But “protection of a spouse shall terminate in the event of remarriage.”

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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-signs-law-giving-himself-bush-lifetime-secret-184305122--politics.html


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Obama signs bill, gets Secret Service protection for life (Original Post) Tx4obama Jan 2013 OP
Bizarre Key Paragraphs: KoKo Jan 2013 #1
I'm not sure what is confusing there. A GOPer wrote the 'new' bill. Tx4obama Jan 2013 #2
No Cosmocat Jan 2013 #4
Once again the lame stream media creates a non-issue issue. politicaljunkie41910 Jan 2013 #23
Your argument makes some sense about why SC's Trey Gowdy KoKo Jan 2013 #27
RE: "Trey Gowdy"..."Hoping for a Senate Seat, the Friendliest of Rivals" (SC Newspaper) KoKo Jan 2013 #28
I think this is the right move. NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #3
me too - ALL our presidents should be covered for life. Justitia Jan 2013 #13
Agreed as well. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #26
After taking out OBL Obama definitely needs lifetime protection. truthisfreedom Jan 2013 #5
I think President Obama will need it ... redstatebluegirl Jan 2013 #6
Well, that's more than the Roman Emperors ever got Demeter Jan 2013 #7
Diocletian did. He stayed retired when the Empire went to shit too. LeftyMom Jan 2013 #15
Depends on how you define retire. nt cstanleytech Jan 2013 #20
He'll need it. ancianita Jan 2013 #8
Correction: Obama *restored* Secret Service protection. arcane1 Jan 2013 #9
yep, typical sensationalist corporate media, alp227 Jan 2013 #10
A list of the bill's co/sponsors - from The House website Tx4obama Jan 2013 #11
This is a good thing Skyline Jan 2013 #12
The cost to the taxpayer? blueclown Jan 2013 #14
Presidents have had 'life-time' protection since 1965 Tx4obama Jan 2013 #16
Yes, it seems that these laws are passed when tragedy strikes. Beacool Jan 2013 #22
I don't think it's about affording it. RudynJack Jan 2013 #24
Oh, I agree. Beacool Jan 2013 #31
It's a damn shame they didn't exempt GW davidpdx Jan 2013 #17
On the other hand, as someone else mentioned, NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #18
President Obama gets Secret Service protection for life skeewee08 Jan 2013 #19
The 90s law was a bad idea in the first place. Beacool Jan 2013 #21
"Drinkie McDumbass? This is THE President. You're welcome!" bullwinkle428 Jan 2013 #25
Well, if there is one President who really really REALLY needs it, it's this one. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #29
I have NO problem with this! Larrymoe Curlyshemp Jan 2013 #30

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
1. Bizarre Key Paragraphs:
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:36 PM
Jan 2013
"The legislation, crafted by Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy of South Carolina, rolls back a mid-1990s law that imposed a 10-year limit on Secret Service protection for former presidents. Bush would have been the first former commander in chief affected.

At the time, lawmakers who supported the measure said it would save the government millions of dollars. They also argued that former presidents could hire private security firms (as Richard Nixon did after he decided to forgo Secret Service protection in 1985).

The bill had sailed through Congress with bipartisan support—it cleared the House of Representatives by voice vote in early December, and then it zipped through the Senate unopposed. The law also provides protection for former presidents’ kids until age 16. But “protection of a spouse shall terminate in the event of remarriage.”



I have NO IDEA what to make of this? Anyone else find it strang?

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
2. I'm not sure what is confusing there. A GOPer wrote the 'new' bill.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:42 PM
Jan 2013

After Clinton there was no more lifetime SS protection - only 10 years for Bush and future presidents.

Now it reverts back to lifetime protection for ALL presidents.

I think the only reason the bill passed was because Bush's SS protection was limited to only ten years and the GOPers wanted to fix that problem.
If Bush wasn't affected and it was only Obama then the bill probably would have been harder to pass.


Edited to add...

I believe the 2nd paragraph in your comment is in regards to the 1990s bill - and the 3rd paragraph is in regards to the 'new' bill.
They should have written the article a bit more clearly.







Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
4. No
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:43 PM
Jan 2013

I was uncomfortable with any ex-president not having SS protection through the course of his or her life.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
23. Once again the lame stream media creates a non-issue issue.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:37 AM
Jan 2013

As noted in the Yahoo link above, this bill was introduced by a republican and received bipartisian support, but instead of focusing on this issue, most of the reported articles lead as CNN does with the implication that President Obama is providing lifetime support for himself and his family, so all the rightwingnuts are having a field day attacking the President with this.

The legislation, crafted by Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy of South Carolina, rolls back a mid-1990s law that imposed a 10-year limit on Secret Service protection for former presidents. Bush would have been the first former commander in chief affected.

At the time, lawmakers who supported the measure said it would save the government millions of dollars. They also argued that former presidents could hire private security firms (as Richard Nixon did after he decided to forgo Secret Service protection in 1985).

The bill had sailed through Congress with bipartisan support—it cleared the House of Representatives by voice vote in early December, and then it zipped through the Senate unopposed. The law also provides protection for former presidents’ kids until age 16. But “protection of a spouse shall terminate in the event of remarriage.”


Also, my brother-in-law was a cop when Reagan was in office and he was a part of a Los Angeles based detail which provided security for Reagan's family. Reagan's daughter Maureen (a grown a$$ woman many times over) used the detail as if they were her personal servants including walking her dog. My B-i-L said that on the last day of her protective services, when Reagan left office, her detail was only too happy to kick her and her mutt to the curb.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
27. Your argument makes some sense about why SC's Trey Gowdy
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:26 PM
Jan 2013

would be involved. Which was my original question about this.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
28. RE: "Trey Gowdy"..."Hoping for a Senate Seat, the Friendliest of Rivals" (SC Newspaper)
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:32 PM
Jan 2013

Hoping for a Senate Seat, the Friendliest of Rivals

Stephen Crowley/The New York Times

Representatives Trey Gowdy, left, and Tim Scott, Republican freshmen, each say the other is the better choice for appointment to replace Senator Jim DeMint.
By JENNIFER STEINHAUER

WASHINGTON — Representatives Trey Gowdy and Tim Scott, first-term Republicans from South Carolina, are both in the running to replace Senator Jim DeMint when the conservative leaves office next month. But they say they know the best man for the job: the other guy.

“If you were to select the best senator to represent a state with a history as rich but provocative as ours,” Mr. Gowdy said, “you would construct Tim Scott.”

Mr. Scott begs to differ. “I honestly feel that Trey would be an amazing senator,” he said. When you are being considered for such a seat, “most people who call you want you to get the job so they can have yours,” he said. “The two exceptions were my mom and Trey.”

Mr. DeMint’s surprise retirement announcement last week — he will become the head of the conservative Heritage Foundation in January — has left Gov. Nikki Haley in the delicious spot of choosing a replacement who would fill out the next two years of his term and then presumably run to defend the seat in 2014.

Mr. Gowdy and Mr. Scott are on the short list of contenders, which also includes Jenny Sanford, the ex-wife of former Gov. Mark Sanford, who infamously disappeared for almost a week in 2009 to visit his mistress in Argentina; Catherine Templeton, a lawyer who runs the state’s Department of Health and Environmental Control; and Henry McMaster, a former state attorney general.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/14/us/politics/trey-gowdy-and-tim-scott-senate-aspirants-and-friendliest-of-rivals.html?_r=0

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
3. I think this is the right move.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:42 PM
Jan 2013

Even a former president is a extremely high-value target and there's really no way they can avoid that for the rest of their lives, whether it's someone as hated/controversial as Bush or someone like Jimmy Carter.

Justitia

(9,316 posts)
13. me too - ALL our presidents should be covered for life.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:10 AM
Jan 2013

When they did away with it, it unnerved me. No former president should be left exposed to physical threat.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
6. I think President Obama will need it ...
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:46 PM
Jan 2013

I hate that idea but I think there will always be people who hate Black folks and believe what they hear on Fox who want to kill him...and his family.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
7. Well, that's more than the Roman Emperors ever got
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:11 PM
Jan 2013

The following Roman Emperors were murdered by their guards (the Praetorians)
while still in office:


Aurelian
Balbinus
Caligula
Caracalla
Carus
Commodus
Elagabalus
Galba
Gordian III
Numerian
Pertinax
Marcus Aurelius Probus
Pupienus
Pupienus and Balbinus (co-emperors)

I don't think any Emperor got to "retire".

alp227

(32,005 posts)
10. yep, typical sensationalist corporate media,
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:29 PM
Jan 2013

of course eliciting ignorant reactions among the freepers/other low-info voters who don't read articles.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
11. A list of the bill's co/sponsors - from The House website
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:09 PM
Jan 2013


H.R.6620
Latest Title: Former Presidents Protection Act of 2012
Sponsor: Rep Gowdy, Trey (SC-4) (introduced 11/30/2012) Cosponsors (3)
Latest Major Action: 1/1/2013 Presented to President. COSPONSORS(3), ALPHABETICAL

Rep Conyers, John, Jr. (MI-14) - 11/30/2012
Rep Scott, Robert C. "Bobby" (VA-3) - 11/30/2012
Rep Smith, Lamar (TX-21) - 11/30/2012

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Also, over on The House website it says: the bill Agreed to by voice vote
So, there is no roll call vote list.

 

Skyline

(35 posts)
12. This is a good thing
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:35 AM
Jan 2013

Think about it, even an ex president has valuable knowledge about our country. They or their family could easily be targeted to find out what they know. It was something that is needed imo.

blueclown

(1,869 posts)
14. The cost to the taxpayer?
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:16 AM
Jan 2013

Have them hire own private security detail. They certainly make enough money to do so, each and every one of then.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
16. Presidents have had 'life-time' protection since 1965
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:41 AM
Jan 2013

The only thing the new bill does is restore the law to how it was before it was changed in the 1990s,
it should never have been changed back then.
And there is no way a young ex-president (as Obama will be after another four years) could afford security for the rest of his life.
Obama, and Michelle, could live another 40 years.
Do have a clue how much that would cost?
There's no way he could afford to pay for security on his own for all of those years.



-snip-

The Secret Service started protecting presidents in 1901 after the assassination of William McKinley. In 1965, Congress passed a law authorizing the agency, which is now a part of the Department of Homeland Security, to protect former presidents for life.

-snip-

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-signs-law-giving-himself-bush-lifetime-secret-184305122--politics.html

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
22. Yes, it seems that these laws are passed when tragedy strikes.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:05 AM
Jan 2013

SS protection was established after McKinley's assassination. Lifetime protection passed after Kennedy was assassinated and this law is due to 9/11/01.

It's sad that we live in a world where former presidents will always be a target. As for the Obamas, if they had to, they could have afforded it. They are already worth millions and they'll make a lot more after they leave office, like all former presidents.

RudynJack

(1,044 posts)
24. I don't think it's about affording it.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:02 PM
Jan 2013

It's about having the intelligence and clout that the SS has.

A private security firm will not have knowledge of all the threats and dangers that the SS has. And I image if the SS asks a locality for assistance, it's more likely to be granted than if Bob from Bob's Security Inc. asks.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
31. Oh, I agree.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:59 PM
Jan 2013

I thought that it was a bad idea when they changed the law in the 90s. Former presidents will always be a target.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
18. On the other hand, as someone else mentioned,
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:36 AM
Jan 2013

it's better than him hiring his own personal security that would be accountable only to him. The SS is accountable to the elected government.

skeewee08

(1,983 posts)
19. President Obama gets Secret Service protection for life
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:22 AM
Jan 2013

this is good especially with all the looney rethugs out there..

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
21. The 90s law was a bad idea in the first place.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:58 AM
Jan 2013

Former presidents will always be a target because they represent the country. The Republicans pushed this law in the 90s when they took control of Congress. Bill and Hillary would have been the last first couple to have had SS protection for life. The law would have affected Bush Jr., Obama and any subsequent president.

9/11/01 changed everything and since then there had been talk of reverting to the pre-90s law. I'm glad that they did so. Regardless of party, it would be a tragedy for the country if a former president were to be assassinated.

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