Obama signs bill, gets Secret Service protection for life
Source: CNN
Washington (CNN) With the stroke of a pen Thursday, President Barack Obama gave himself and his wife Secret Service protection for the rest of their lives.
The new law, which passed the House and Senate in December, designates that all former U.S. presidents who served after January 1, 1997, along with their spouses, receive protection from the Secret Service for their entire lifetimes meaning former President George W. Bush and his wife Laura are also covered. The law also stipulates that children of presidents receive protection until the age of 16.
Lifetime government-provided security for former presidents was the law of the land until 1997, when Congress passed legislation limiting Secret Service protection to ten years after leaving office.
The 1997 law said any president serving before January 1, 1997 would still receive the lifelong protection. That means with the law signed Thursday, every former president Jimmy Carter, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush along with Obama will continue to receive Secret Service details for the rest of their lives.
Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/10/obama-signs-bill-gets-secret-service-protection-for-life/comment-page-1/
Obama signs law giving himself, Bush lifetime Secret Service guard
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President Barack Obama on Thursday signed into a law a measure giving him, George W. Bush and future former presidents and their spouses lifetime Secret Service protection, the White House announced.
The legislation, crafted by Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy of South Carolina, rolls back a mid-1990s law that imposed a 10-year limit on Secret Service protection for former presidents. Bush would have been the first former commander in chief affected.
At the time, lawmakers who supported the measure said it would save the government millions of dollars. They also argued that former presidents could hire private security firms (as Richard Nixon did after he decided to forgo Secret Service protection in 1985).
The bill had sailed through Congress with bipartisan supportit cleared the House of Representatives by voice vote in early December, and then it zipped through the Senate unopposed. The law also provides protection for former presidents kids until age 16. But protection of a spouse shall terminate in the event of remarriage.
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-signs-law-giving-himself-bush-lifetime-secret-184305122--politics.html
KoKo
(84,711 posts)At the time, lawmakers who supported the measure said it would save the government millions of dollars. They also argued that former presidents could hire private security firms (as Richard Nixon did after he decided to forgo Secret Service protection in 1985).
The bill had sailed through Congress with bipartisan supportit cleared the House of Representatives by voice vote in early December, and then it zipped through the Senate unopposed. The law also provides protection for former presidents kids until age 16. But protection of a spouse shall terminate in the event of remarriage.
I have NO IDEA what to make of this? Anyone else find it strang?
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)After Clinton there was no more lifetime SS protection - only 10 years for Bush and future presidents.
Now it reverts back to lifetime protection for ALL presidents.
I think the only reason the bill passed was because Bush's SS protection was limited to only ten years and the GOPers wanted to fix that problem.
If Bush wasn't affected and it was only Obama then the bill probably would have been harder to pass.
Edited to add...
I believe the 2nd paragraph in your comment is in regards to the 1990s bill - and the 3rd paragraph is in regards to the 'new' bill.
They should have written the article a bit more clearly.
I was uncomfortable with any ex-president not having SS protection through the course of his or her life.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)As noted in the Yahoo link above, this bill was introduced by a republican and received bipartisian support, but instead of focusing on this issue, most of the reported articles lead as CNN does with the implication that President Obama is providing lifetime support for himself and his family, so all the rightwingnuts are having a field day attacking the President with this.
The legislation, crafted by Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy of South Carolina, rolls back a mid-1990s law that imposed a 10-year limit on Secret Service protection for former presidents. Bush would have been the first former commander in chief affected.
At the time, lawmakers who supported the measure said it would save the government millions of dollars. They also argued that former presidents could hire private security firms (as Richard Nixon did after he decided to forgo Secret Service protection in 1985).
The bill had sailed through Congress with bipartisan supportit cleared the House of Representatives by voice vote in early December, and then it zipped through the Senate unopposed. The law also provides protection for former presidents kids until age 16. But protection of a spouse shall terminate in the event of remarriage.
Also, my brother-in-law was a cop when Reagan was in office and he was a part of a Los Angeles based detail which provided security for Reagan's family. Reagan's daughter Maureen (a grown a$$ woman many times over) used the detail as if they were her personal servants including walking her dog. My B-i-L said that on the last day of her protective services, when Reagan left office, her detail was only too happy to kick her and her mutt to the curb.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)would be involved. Which was my original question about this.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Hoping for a Senate Seat, the Friendliest of Rivals
Stephen Crowley/The New York Times
Representatives Trey Gowdy, left, and Tim Scott, Republican freshmen, each say the other is the better choice for appointment to replace Senator Jim DeMint.
By JENNIFER STEINHAUER
WASHINGTON Representatives Trey Gowdy and Tim Scott, first-term Republicans from South Carolina, are both in the running to replace Senator Jim DeMint when the conservative leaves office next month. But they say they know the best man for the job: the other guy.
If you were to select the best senator to represent a state with a history as rich but provocative as ours, Mr. Gowdy said, you would construct Tim Scott.
Mr. Scott begs to differ. I honestly feel that Trey would be an amazing senator, he said. When you are being considered for such a seat, most people who call you want you to get the job so they can have yours, he said. The two exceptions were my mom and Trey.
Mr. DeMints surprise retirement announcement last week he will become the head of the conservative Heritage Foundation in January has left Gov. Nikki Haley in the delicious spot of choosing a replacement who would fill out the next two years of his term and then presumably run to defend the seat in 2014.
Mr. Gowdy and Mr. Scott are on the short list of contenders, which also includes Jenny Sanford, the ex-wife of former Gov. Mark Sanford, who infamously disappeared for almost a week in 2009 to visit his mistress in Argentina; Catherine Templeton, a lawyer who runs the states Department of Health and Environmental Control; and Henry McMaster, a former state attorney general.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/14/us/politics/trey-gowdy-and-tim-scott-senate-aspirants-and-friendliest-of-rivals.html?_r=0
NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)Even a former president is a extremely high-value target and there's really no way they can avoid that for the rest of their lives, whether it's someone as hated/controversial as Bush or someone like Jimmy Carter.
Justitia
(9,316 posts)When they did away with it, it unnerved me. No former president should be left exposed to physical threat.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)truthisfreedom
(23,138 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I hate that idea but I think there will always be people who hate Black folks and believe what they hear on Fox who want to kill him...and his family.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)The following Roman Emperors were murdered by their guards (the Praetorians)
while still in office:
Aurelian
Balbinus
Caligula
Caracalla
Carus
Commodus
Elagabalus
Galba
Gordian III
Numerian
Pertinax
Marcus Aurelius Probus
Pupienus
Pupienus and Balbinus (co-emperors)
I don't think any Emperor got to "retire".
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)cstanleytech
(26,224 posts)ancianita
(35,929 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)You're welcome, headline writer
alp227
(32,005 posts)of course eliciting ignorant reactions among the freepers/other low-info voters who don't read articles.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)H.R.6620
Latest Title: Former Presidents Protection Act of 2012
Sponsor: Rep Gowdy, Trey (SC-4) (introduced 11/30/2012) Cosponsors (3)
Latest Major Action: 1/1/2013 Presented to President. COSPONSORS(3), ALPHABETICAL
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. (MI-14) - 11/30/2012
Rep Scott, Robert C. "Bobby" (VA-3) - 11/30/2012
Rep Smith, Lamar (TX-21) - 11/30/2012
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Also, over on The House website it says: the bill Agreed to by voice vote
So, there is no roll call vote list.
Skyline
(35 posts)Think about it, even an ex president has valuable knowledge about our country. They or their family could easily be targeted to find out what they know. It was something that is needed imo.
blueclown
(1,869 posts)Have them hire own private security detail. They certainly make enough money to do so, each and every one of then.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)The only thing the new bill does is restore the law to how it was before it was changed in the 1990s,
it should never have been changed back then.
And there is no way a young ex-president (as Obama will be after another four years) could afford security for the rest of his life.
Obama, and Michelle, could live another 40 years.
Do have a clue how much that would cost?
There's no way he could afford to pay for security on his own for all of those years.
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The Secret Service started protecting presidents in 1901 after the assassination of William McKinley. In 1965, Congress passed a law authorizing the agency, which is now a part of the Department of Homeland Security, to protect former presidents for life.
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-signs-law-giving-himself-bush-lifetime-secret-184305122--politics.html
Beacool
(30,247 posts)SS protection was established after McKinley's assassination. Lifetime protection passed after Kennedy was assassinated and this law is due to 9/11/01.
It's sad that we live in a world where former presidents will always be a target. As for the Obamas, if they had to, they could have afforded it. They are already worth millions and they'll make a lot more after they leave office, like all former presidents.
RudynJack
(1,044 posts)It's about having the intelligence and clout that the SS has.
A private security firm will not have knowledge of all the threats and dangers that the SS has. And I image if the SS asks a locality for assistance, it's more likely to be granted than if Bob from Bob's Security Inc. asks.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)I thought that it was a bad idea when they changed the law in the 90s. Former presidents will always be a target.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I guess hell will have to do.
NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)it's better than him hiring his own personal security that would be accountable only to him. The SS is accountable to the elected government.
skeewee08
(1,983 posts)this is good especially with all the looney rethugs out there..
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Former presidents will always be a target because they represent the country. The Republicans pushed this law in the 90s when they took control of Congress. Bill and Hillary would have been the last first couple to have had SS protection for life. The law would have affected Bush Jr., Obama and any subsequent president.
9/11/01 changed everything and since then there had been talk of reverting to the pre-90s law. I'm glad that they did so. Regardless of party, it would be a tragedy for the country if a former president were to be assassinated.
bullwinkle428
(20,628 posts)2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)Re: James Yeager and his sympathizers.
Larrymoe Curlyshemp
(111 posts)Rec