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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 03:14 PM Jan 2013

Turkish Man Charged in Paris Murders of Three PKK Women Leaders

Source: Bloomberg

A 30-year-old Turkish man linked to the Kurdish militant group PKK was charged today in the Jan. 10 killings in Paris of three women leaders of the organization.

He was charged with murders linked to terrorism and involvement in a terrorist ring, and is being held in jail while investigators search for motives and to determine whether he acted alone, according to French prosecutors.

The man, who lives in France and acted as a driver for one of the women, “could be the author, or one of the authors, of the crime,” Paris public prosecutor Francois Molins said today. A second suspect was released without charge.

The victims included Sakine Cansiz, one of five people who founded the Kurdistan Workers’ Party, or PKK, in 1978.

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-21/turkish-man-charged-in-paris-murders-of-three-pkk-women-leaders.html

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azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
1. It does not say but I would guess the Turkish government is quiet
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 03:22 PM
Jan 2013

on this? Because that is who I'd be looking at

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. I think the ultimate perp remains unclear.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 03:29 PM
Jan 2013

Turkey has denied involvement. They are talking to Ocalan(spell?) in jail.

The guy the French have seems small potatoes, a driver, the sort of guy you suborn to carry out this sort of assassination.

I don't think I should speculate, though Kurdish politics comes to mind, but the lack of noise about this from any of the players seems "interesting".

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
4. True that one would expect Turkey to deny involvment in any event
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 03:31 PM
Jan 2013

but the all around silence is curious

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
6. I came across this in quick Google
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 03:35 PM
Jan 2013



Despite the assassinations of three PKK representatives in Paris, Ankara is pressing ahead with its dialogue with PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan in an attempt to end its Kurdish problem once and for all. The assumption is that by dealing openly with Ocalan, who controls a relatively monolithic PKK, the group’s militants will disarm willingly. A more inclusive negotiating process that engages Kurdish political representatives and Turkish civilian leaders also is expected to encourage a settlement and sideline PKK hardliners.

The problem is that the PKK represents more than Ocalan and Kurdish national rights in Turkey. Since Ocalan’s arrest in 1999, the radical nationalist group has expanded and entrenched its networks across regional states and continents. It has also become lodged in Middle East uprisings and regional proxy wars that have given local leaders new forms of support, prestige and opportunities to mobilize. Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s challenge, therefore, is not only using Ocalan as a peacemaker, combating terrorism and creating conditions inside Turkey to appease Kurds, but also ameliorating relations with regional states that are empowering the PKK and its party offshoots.

Indeed, securing Ocalan’s support for a Kurdish-Turkish peace process is essential. Ocalan remains the uncontested leader of the PKK and can influence party members’ behavior from his prison cell in Imrali. There is rarely a PKK demonstration in the region or the diaspora without Ocalan’s photo, emphasizing the continuity of his well-known personality cult. It was only after Ocalan called an end to the two-month hunger strike by dozens of Kurdish prisoners and politicians last November that the protests finally ended. Murat Karayilan, head of the PKK’s Kandil group, could not have done that.

Yet the PKK has become larger than its symbolic leader. Even if the organization no longer calls for an independent Kurdistan but for democratic autonomy in Turkey, it has become embedded in a growing trans-border Kurdish nationalist movement that is now simultaneously active in three geographically contiguous states: Turkey, Iraq and Syria. The PKK also has benefited from regional uprisings and associated power vacuums by securing sanctuary in weakened states. Since their expulsion from Syria and transfer to the Kandil mountains in Iraqi Kurdistan after 1999, PKK leaders and cadres have been running operations and consolidating networks on the ground without Ocalan’s directives. These leaders and their fighters may not necessarily or fully respond to Ocalan’s instructions to make peace.

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/01/ocalan-tuks-pkk.html#ixzz2IdlR9b38

interesting indeed
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
7. Syrian Kurds are being attacked by jihadis coming from Turkey.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 03:42 PM
Jan 2013

I just posted this in late breaking news: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014375885

The link I posted doesn't say so, but CNN International today said those Syrian Kurds are allied with a Kurdish party affiliated with the PKK.

Ah, Middle Eastern politics...

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
8. Very interesting, thanks.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 03:45 PM
Jan 2013

This is not my subject, but Ocalan is the guy to watch, since they are talking to him, and the fact they are talking to him when this happens ...

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
9. He should have used a drone with a Hellfire missile.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 04:16 PM
Jan 2013

Nobody would have cared and he would have probably received a medal for it.

REP

(21,691 posts)
10. Am I reading this right? A Turk member of the PKK killed other (Kurdish) PKK members?
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 04:53 PM
Jan 2013

It's weird enough that a Turk was a member of the PKK; there's not much love for the PKK with many Turks.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
11. I believe so. He was their driver, is what it says.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 04:55 PM
Jan 2013

Many Turks (turkish citizens) are also Kurds.

REP

(21,691 posts)
12. That I understand (anyone* within Turkey is a Turkish citizen) but
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 05:08 PM
Jan 2013

the impression I was left with was the driver/killer was a Turkish Turk, hence my confusion. If that is indeed the case, I'm suspicious - I'm no fan of the current government, and will quickly jump to (tinfoil) conclusions. If he is a Kurd, well, the PKK has a history of infighting.





*well, born within of course - not tourists, etc.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
14. Why would a Turk be driving around PKK women? Do they mean an ethnic Kurd with Turkish citizenship?
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:47 AM
Jan 2013

If they mean an ethnic Turk, it makes no damn sense. That's like a Hatfield driving around McCoy women.

I don't know what the scoop is, here, but could they be looking for an easy solution to the crime, and a way to wrap up a network of dissenters in one fell swoop?

The women were all shot multiple times in the head with the same gun in the group’s Paris office between midnight and about 2 a.m., Molins said. Gunshot residue was found in the suspect’s bag, though a partial print found on a cartridge didn’t match his, the prosecutor said.


I know the French were none too pleased when Persian mafia/Ayatullah hitmen were running around Paris shooting the remnants of the Shah's entourage, and they didn't try real hard to catch people who did it, either.
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