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alp227

(31,962 posts)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:53 PM Jan 2012

Gingrich urges students to get part-time jobs — apparently unlike himself

Newt Gingrich thinks today’s youths have it way too easy. Then again, there was a day when some people thought that about young Newt himself.

The former House speaker has already generated some controversy — and praise — with his suggestion that poor kids have no work habits and his idea that they should be put to work in janitorial jobs.

In a speech to local Republicans here on Saturday, he suggested that they are not the only ones who should learn the value of sweat.

Asked about the high cost of college, Gingrich said that today’s students are being coddled, with luxury dorms and lavish extras, such as lobster nights in their dining halls. And he praised institutions such as the University of the Ozarks that incorporate work into their financial aid programs.

full: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gingrich-urges-students-to-get-part-time-jobs--apparently-unlike-himself/2012/01/28/gIQAkAXdYQ_story.html

Typical RepubliCON double standard on "entitlements".

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Gingrich urges students to get part-time jobs — apparently unlike himself (Original Post) alp227 Jan 2012 OP
Lobster Night? madaboutharry Jan 2012 #1
My school had similar things but . . . Geoff R. Casavant Jan 2012 #6
University of Massachusetts- Amherst does it Fearless Jan 2012 #15
I guess that technically makes Newt truthful caseymoz Jan 2012 #19
I'd say he's still wrong... Fearless Jan 2012 #22
it's the college equivalent of the welfare queen!!! Skittles Jan 2012 #20
Fuck him!!! Ishoutandscream2 Jan 2012 #2
my god.. the ozarks? SemperEadem Jan 2012 #3
Where the fuck are they having lobster night? Drale Jan 2012 #4
This man has lived on military bases when his step dad was in service. I think he retired with southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #5
what jobs? what planet does this guy live on? KG Jan 2012 #7
LOL I know even at my alma mater, UC Berkeley (the most funded UC in the system), does not have bayareamike Jan 2012 #8
If kids start early with a base pay job..... JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 #9
I Worked during college JackintheGreen Jan 2012 #10
OMG, look how THIS college is coddling students!!!1! Beartracks Jan 2012 #11
Maybe they ought to just marry their teachers. n/t Bonhomme Richard Jan 2012 #12
This is the picture illustrating the story jmowreader Jan 2012 #13
Students should be 'coddled.' Their 'job' is to fucking learn. To improve all of our futures. onehandle Jan 2012 #14
For my daughter (UC Santa Cruz) it's more like Ramen Night or Bean Burrito night K8-EEE Jan 2012 #16
I greatly regret working in college. Deep13 Jan 2012 #17
Is he confusing his colleges? xmas74 Jan 2012 #18
If money isn't an issue, it is probably better not to work during the school year Nikia Jan 2012 #21
That man might collapse from coronary arrest if he ever had to do a days hard work tawadi Jan 2012 #23

Geoff R. Casavant

(2,381 posts)
6. My school had similar things but . . .
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 10:42 PM
Jan 2012

. . . enerally only one night a semester, and you needed to purchase a ticket to get in, it was hardly standard with the meal plan.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
15. University of Massachusetts- Amherst does it
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:28 AM
Jan 2012

On Halloween. Of course they're one pound lobsters and they still make money off of it. All costs included in the meal plan.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
19. I guess that technically makes Newt truthful
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 04:10 AM
Jan 2012

That some school somewhere does it.

That makes far more truthful than most the bullshit that comes out of his mouth, by comparison.

But of course, that's just truthful enough to make it a better lie.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
22. I'd say he's still wrong...
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 05:17 PM
Jan 2012

As in this case the students are paying for it completely. It's not a handout or anything. It's something vaguely nice that people pay for. Is Newt against nice things now? Lol!

Ishoutandscream2

(6,656 posts)
2. Fuck him!!!
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:59 PM
Jan 2012

College costs have far surpassed inflation. Working through college as a full time student will not necessarily cover all costs of an education. God, I can really hate Republicans.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
5. This man has lived on military bases when his step dad was in service. I think he retired with
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 10:21 PM
Jan 2012

a pretty good pension. He had government insurance til at least 26 unless he wasn't married and still in college. He avoid military service yet beats his war drums willing to send troops to fight for a Jewish state because some Rich casino owner wants to make sure he'll move our embassy to Jerusalem which everyone knows it will start WWIII. A rich man is willing to send our kids to save his kids from going and fighting for his own country. That reallly takes the cake. I am against ANY country trying to put america in the middle of another middle east war. Its enough already. We have lost to many soldiers. We must find a peaceful soluation. No more war. I think many Jewish people living there feel the same way. Why doesn't someone ask him where are the kids suppose to find a job when many parents are filling them to feel their families. Damn I so sick and tired of these crazy people. They are so out of touch. Whatever happen to some of these politicans living in a low rent housing and eating on food stamps. Once they do that then maybe I can find respect for them. Until now they are the Welfare cheats who get all the bennies.

bayareamike

(602 posts)
8. LOL I know even at my alma mater, UC Berkeley (the most funded UC in the system), does not have
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 10:48 PM
Jan 2012

"lobster nights". Moreover, a SIGNIFICANT percentage of students do work while in college. The expense of higher education has nothing to do with students simply being too lazy to work.

Here's statistics for 2003-04 (if anyone can find a more recent study that would be great):

http://www.acenet.edu/AM/Template.cfm?template=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentFileID=1618

According to this study, 78% of undergraduates worked at least part time while they were in college. Pesky facts.

JohnnyRingo

(18,581 posts)
9. If kids start early with a base pay job.....
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 11:02 PM
Jan 2012

They can gain valuable work experience at a young age and climb the ladder to a good union job with benefits.

Then Newt can tell them they're lazy, overpaid, and need reigned in.

JackintheGreen

(2,036 posts)
10. I Worked during college
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 11:11 PM
Jan 2012

After college I worked three jobs simultaneously.

Then I worked during my masters, as a shuttle driver and chauffeur.

Finally got a stipend when working on my PhD and still worked 25 hrs/wk at UPS.

Now I don't have any job at all and guess what, Newt? I still have a motherfucking ton of college debt (even if some of it i my wife's).

I guess what I'm saying, Newt, is fucking fuck you.

Beartracks

(12,761 posts)
11. OMG, look how THIS college is coddling students!!!1!
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 11:32 PM
Jan 2012

"How would you like to go to a private liberal arts college that will give you a full-ride tuition scholarship for four years? Sounds crazy? Actually, I'm serious.

Antioch College in Yellow Spring, Ohio, is waiving the tuition for all its students, who enroll in the next three years.

How much are these freebies worth? The value of the free tuition for the current year is $26,500."

http://financiallyfit.yahoo.com/finance/article-113840-11763-4-how-to-get-a-106000-college-education-for-free?ywaad=ad0035&nc


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jmowreader

(50,453 posts)
13. This is the picture illustrating the story
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 12:13 AM
Jan 2012


Now, it seems to me his left hand is in the wrong place. Shouldn't it be sitting on the crook of his elbow?

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
16. For my daughter (UC Santa Cruz) it's more like Ramen Night or Bean Burrito night
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:58 AM
Jan 2012

WTF with this asshole!! These kids work their ASSES off and pay up to the gills just to get a bachelor's degree. I think they have it way harder than when I was that age.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
17. I greatly regret working in college.
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 02:09 AM
Jan 2012

My grades suffered greatly. These days there is no way one can simply pay for college tuition by working in the summer. I was barely able to do it in 1989. School is too expensive now.

xmas74

(29,658 posts)
18. Is he confusing his colleges?
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 02:37 AM
Jan 2012

University of the Ozarks, located in Clarksville, Arkansas does offer a financial aid plan that includes work study. Even with the work study it's $21,000 a year to attend.

http://admissions.ozarks.edu/faid/tuition.asp

College of the Ozarks, located in Point Lookout, Mo is an entirely different manner. If he's attempting to cite the benefits of a work study program this should be the school he's talking about. If a student is accepted to the college their education is 100% paid. has a work study 90% of all students have a work study-it's part of the package. Only 10% of those admitted do not have to show financial need.

Of course, not everyone can get in. I remember my campus tour many years ago and I don't remember seeing a single minority during the tour. My interview included questions about my views on homosexuality, interracial marriage, a woman's role in the home, and comments were made about if I liked wearing colors in my wardrobe. (This was many years ago and we were told to wear something feminine but appropriate. I wore a dress I'd worn for concert band-black, to the ankle, three-quarter sleeves, with a small lace collar. I also made sure to wear panty hose, a slip, and two inch heels-no higher. Jewelry was very simple. I was given specific instructions by the rep about how to dress.)

Also, there used to be a rule about any public displays of affection, including handholding. Twelve hours of religious coursework had to be completed. (Philosophy was not an option.) Services were to be attended every Sunday, no matter what. Room checks were frequent and not only included "contraband" but also posters, books, magazines, cd's, clothing-anything that could be deemed "inappropriate". (Now you see why I ran the other way after the interview! No way I could live like that, especially with Branson just a few miles down the road.)

Actually, all the rules sound right up Newt's alley. Interesting how there's no way he could live up to any of it.

Nikia

(11,411 posts)
21. If money isn't an issue, it is probably better not to work during the school year
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 04:06 PM
Jan 2012

If it is a job that a high school student would be qualified for. Working as a tutor, for a college academic and administrative department, or a paid internship is useful for one's educational and professional future. Working in the dining hall, cleaning dorms, or at the local grocery store is not so useful. Students who do not need to earn any money during the school year have more time for studying, extracurricular activites, unpaid internships, and non credit research. Most of the students at my school who were not working were the motivated type who were using their time to better themselves. Unless they had a disability, they were graduating within a term of the traditional 4 year degree.
I worked in the dining hall, about 10 hours per week to pay for my expenses during the year. I don't think that it did anything positive for me other than making me about $50 per week. I was involved in multiple extracurricular activities, majored in a laboratory science, and graduated in 4 years. If I could do it over again, I think that I would have tried tried to get a different on campus job after my freshman year or maybe worked more during the summer so I wouldn't have needed to work during the year. At any rate, I feel fortunate. Trying to work more than half time (20 hours per week) would probably make it difficult to participate in any extracurricular activities and devote enough time to a full course load. At some colleges, I think that there is a real divide between those who have to work all the time and barely have enough time for their courses and those who do not work and have time to take advantage of their college's opportunities outside of the classroom.

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