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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:32 PM Jan 2013

NRA’s LaPierre: Universal Background Checks A Waste Of Time

Source: TPM



EVAN MCMORRIS-SANTORO 1:14 PM EST, TUESDAY JANUARY 29, 2013

There's no point in pursuing universal background checks for firearms purchases, National Rifle Association Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre plans to tell the Senate tomorrow, because bad guys will get guns anway.

LaPierre is among those scheduled to tesify at the Senate Judiciary Committee's gun violence hearing Wednesday. The NRA sent out his testimoy Tuesday. LaPierre once again plans to tout the NRA's call for armed guards in every school as well as the group's call for loosen privacy laws the group says keep mental health records from being included in the extisting background check system. But when it comes to expanding background checks to cover all firearms transactions, LaPierre will tell the Senate there's little point.

"When it comes to the issue of background checks, let’s be honest – background checks will never be 'universal' – because criminals will never submit to them," LaPierre's testimony reads.
LaPierre will say the NRA is ready to pushback on gun control advocates calling for new legislation after Newtown.

"While we’re ready to participate in a meaningful effort to solve these pressing problems, we must respectfully – but honestly and firmly – disagree with some members of this committee, many in the media, and all of the gun control groups on what will keep our kids and our streets safe," the testimony read. "Law-abiding gun owners will not accept blame for the acts of violent or deranged criminals. Nor do we believe the government should dictate what we can lawfully own and use to protect our families."

Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/lapierre-universal-background-checks-waste-of-time

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NRA’s LaPierre: Universal Background Checks A Waste Of Time (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2013 OP
Frankly Wayne, YOU are a waste of time! Crowman1979 Jan 2013 #1
I think he is waste of oxygen srican69 Jan 2013 #4
More pointedly, a waste of sperm Ian Iam Jan 2013 #14
you took the words southern_belle Jan 2013 #27
So why is Wacko Wayne advocating for access to people's mental health records PA Democrat Jan 2013 #2
He is obviously completely changing his mind on that point entirely. Right? Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #29
What Constitutes A Criminal?..... global1 Jan 2013 #3
All of them had a history mental illness. That should be included in background checks. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #7
I think mass murders = cash cow for the NRA. alp227 Jan 2013 #25
So he wants to loosen privacy laws under the 5th and 14th amendments aint_no_life_nowhere Jan 2013 #5
What is he hiding? liberal N proud Jan 2013 #6
What a fracking tool. nick of time Jan 2013 #8
I have never been asked to submit - I was TOLD that if I wanted what I was after I WOULD submit. jwirr Jan 2013 #9
The gangster-advocate...eom Kolesar Jan 2013 #10
If it's a waste of time then we need to stop the manufacturing of guns. geomon666 Jan 2013 #11
Nope. Crepuscular Jan 2013 #12
Using NRA/GOP Logic - Why Have Any Laws At All? People still break laws Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #13
"Bad guys" Romulus Quirinus Jan 2013 #15
Why do we have laws at all? MrSlayer Jan 2013 #16
Thank you! primavera Jan 2013 #20
Yep. We could go back to the days of gunslingers and vigilante justice. Yee haw! PA Democrat Jan 2013 #21
Why can't Wayne LaPee-Error just go away? lastlib Jan 2013 #17
NRA Fights Legislation That Would Ban Gun Sales To Those Currently On Killing Sprees iandhr Jan 2013 #18
Let him be crazy and loud jinx1 Jan 2013 #19
Why is the NRA secondvariety Jan 2013 #22
He's a waste of human skin. llmart Jan 2013 #23
Unfortunately, Wayne is correct to an extent. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #24
Enforcing the current laws was one of the things the Obama had on his list. Kablooie Jan 2013 #26
you totally skipped the part about HOW IT IS WAYNE"S FAULT THE LAWS AREN'T ENFORCED farminator3000 Jan 2013 #31
Maybe I did not fall for that line like you did. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #33
i thought the sarcasm was fairly obvious farminator3000 Jan 2013 #34
wayne, following that logic, we should have no laws at all. are you now an anarchise, you slimebag? Nanjing to Seoul Jan 2013 #28
I saw that quote on the news this morning davidpdx Jan 2013 #30
keep it up, asshole Skittles Jan 2013 #32

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
2. So why is Wacko Wayne advocating for access to people's mental health records
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:39 PM
Jan 2013

if he is against a universal background check? Could it possibly be that the ONLY thing he cares about is the sale of more guns and ammunition?

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
29. He is obviously completely changing his mind on that point entirely. Right?
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 01:58 AM
Jan 2013

I mean, you can't have both at the same time.

global1

(25,241 posts)
3. What Constitutes A Criminal?.....
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:44 PM
Jan 2013

Was the guy that shot up the theater a criminal before he did the shooting? Was the guy that went into the Newtown, Ct school a criminal before he went into the school and shot 26? Were they criminals before they did the shooting or did they become criminals after the deed was done?

If there is something we can learn by using a 'background check' to prevent shootings like these from happening - we should do it.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
7. All of them had a history mental illness. That should be included in background checks.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:52 PM
Jan 2013

Even Wacko Wayne says so. But then, he does not want universal background checks, as if some bullets are less lethal than others.

alp227

(32,017 posts)
25. I think mass murders = cash cow for the NRA.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:33 PM
Jan 2013

Once a newtown happens, Wayne the peter can send out "DEMOCRATS WANT TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GUNS AND END THE 2nd AMENDMENT" fundraising emails and get his base fired up buying heavy weaponry en masse, generating huge profit for gun companies thus more donations to the NRA, maintaining the cycle of keeping gun laws weak and keeping the cash flowing.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
5. So he wants to loosen privacy laws under the 5th and 14th amendments
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:47 PM
Jan 2013

regarding medical records and the doctor patient privilege such as that evoked in Roe v. Wade, but he doesn't want any impingement whatsoever on the 2nd amendment. This should be interesting.

 

nick of time

(651 posts)
8. What a fracking tool.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:52 PM
Jan 2013

90%+ of the American public support universal BGC's. NRA needs to just go back to it's roots or just go away.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
11. If it's a waste of time then we need to stop the manufacturing of guns.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 03:27 PM
Jan 2013

Right? If the production of guns stops, then eventually nobody has guns, not even bad people.

Crepuscular

(1,057 posts)
12. Nope.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 03:32 PM
Jan 2013

Lapierre and the NRA are wrong on the issue of background checks and I don't believe that they represent the opinion of a majority of gun owners in this country, in that regard. Background checks, including access to mental health records, should be part of every firearms transfer in this country and there should be stiff, enforced penalties for evading such a requirement. I believe that there would be overwhelming support for such a regulatory change, it's a shame that politicians are more interested in grandstanding over proposals that have no chance of being enacted, instead of focusing on what can be realistically achieved.

 

Lesmoderesstupides

(156 posts)
13. Using NRA/GOP Logic - Why Have Any Laws At All? People still break laws
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 03:35 PM
Jan 2013

all laws must be pointless right NRA/GOP?

primavera

(5,191 posts)
20. Thank you!
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:22 PM
Jan 2013

I've often wondered how gun advocates rely upon that argument yet don't support total lawless anarchy.

jinx1

(45 posts)
19. Let him be crazy and loud
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:19 PM
Jan 2013

The more he opens his mouth the worse the NRA and its affiliates look. There is no chance that reason or common sense will change their minds because of the obvious, they possess neither. The more they (he) seek (s) the spotlight the better.

secondvariety

(1,245 posts)
22. Why is the NRA
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:54 PM
Jan 2013

even involved with the discussion? That's like asking the drug cartels what's should be done about drug addiction.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
24. Unfortunately, Wayne is correct to an extent.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:24 PM
Jan 2013

Just not for the reasons he states.

Laws are useful only to the extent that they are enforced. Unfortunately, federal and state governments have abysmal track records when it comes to enforcing gun laws. Straw purchases and gun trafficking are already illegal, but would you know it based on the number of offenders brought to trial? Even arrested?

If the current laws are not getting enforced, what is the point of adding more that will not be enforced?

On the other hand, if enforcement was not the problem, universal background checks would be a great thing if properly implemented.

farminator3000

(2,117 posts)
31. you totally skipped the part about HOW IT IS WAYNE"S FAULT THE LAWS AREN'T ENFORCED
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 02:49 AM
Jan 2013

he's a total asshole, blaming the gov. for problems HE CREATED ON PURPOSE..

JUST T SELL MOR GUNZ N KEEP TH PARANOYA BURNIN!!!

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
33. Maybe I did not fall for that line like you did.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:08 AM
Jan 2013

Maybe you meant that as sarcasm. If so, use the tag next time.

farminator3000

(2,117 posts)
34. i thought the sarcasm was fairly obvious
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:33 AM
Jan 2013

without sarcasm-

lapukeface is an immoral bastard, a million dollar SCUMHOLE!

got it?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
30. I saw that quote on the news this morning
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 02:37 AM
Jan 2013

All I could do is shake my head and mutter a few choice words.

Skittles

(153,147 posts)
32. keep it up, asshole
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:07 AM
Jan 2013

everyone is getting a clear look at the kind of cowardice and ignorance represented by the NRA

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