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farminator3000

(2,117 posts)
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 02:43 AM Jan 2013

Exclusive: CIA nominee had detailed knowledge of "enhanced interrogation techniques"

Source: Reuters

"I have many questions and concerns about his nomination to be director of the Central Intelligence Agency, especially what role he played in the so-called enhanced interrogation programs while serving at the CIA during the last administration," Senator John McCain, who was tortured during captivity in North Vietnam, said recently.



Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/30/us-obama-nominations-brennan-idUSBRE90T07I20130130



good lord, here we go again!

go get 'em Gramps! BLARGH

might have to put a Mc Cain filter on my TV.
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Exclusive: CIA nominee had detailed knowledge of "enhanced interrogation techniques" (Original Post) farminator3000 Jan 2013 OP
I am offended that Obama wants to appoint a man to the CIA who was associated with torture. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #1
blame good ol' W? if Brennan really had no idea, he's not to blame farminator3000 Jan 2013 #2
Let's hope that he explains his relationship with those who tortured when he goes through his JDPriestly Jan 2013 #24
For probably the first time in my life, I agree with kas125 Jan 2013 #3
don't go there! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #5
are you serious with blame W? yurbud Jan 2013 #13
Much of the article is about Brennan's objections to torture, ucrdem Jan 2013 #20
i missploke. for torture, blame dickbag cheney. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #21
Me too newfie11 Jan 2013 #11
If 'enhanced interrogation' is so bad then why Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #4
we can still BLAME W! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #6
We ALL know that dotymed Jan 2013 #22
I don't think McCain is the only one upset about Obama joelz Jan 2013 #7
no, don't blame W. this might get ugly! not about torture at all anymore... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #8
It seems no matter who sits in the White House, the military-industrial complex still holds power nt Selatius Jan 2013 #9
Just as Eisenhower warned the nation over 50 years ago. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #19
If John McCain doesn't like him, then I know he's swell. nt EastKYLiberal Jan 2013 #10
John McCain is no one to talk. another_liberal Jan 2013 #12
Thank you... rosesaylavee Jan 2013 #14
and thank you. appacom Jan 2013 #15
Torture is as American as cherry pie (with apologies coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #16
Can we stop with the Doublespeak Kelvin Mace Jan 2013 #17
McCain can complain, but it won't matter. OnyxCollie Jan 2013 #18
kind of like rush limberger interviewing a new-age ollie north. hoooo boy getting ripe in there farminator3000 Jan 2013 #23

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
1. I am offended that Obama wants to appoint a man to the CIA who was associated with torture.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 02:52 AM
Jan 2013

It's shameful. McCain is right.

farminator3000

(2,117 posts)
2. blame good ol' W? if Brennan really had no idea, he's not to blame
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 02:59 AM
Jan 2013

They added, however, that he was cited in passing, not as a significant supervisor or manager of the program.

Brennan, who is now Obama's White House counter-terrorism adviser, played no role in the program's "creation, execution or oversight," the senior Obama administration official said.

&quot Brennan) was on hundreds if not thousands of messages a day regarding many different issues but his primary responsibility was ... helping manage the day-to-day running of the agency, to include support, logistics, IT, budget, personnel resources, facilities, IG (Inspector General) recommendations, and the like."

SECOND TRY FOR CIA

This is the second time that Obama has sought to nominate Brennan to head the spy agency, and the second time that questions have arisen about his involvement in enhanced interrogation tactics when he was a CIA official during the administration of former President George W. Bush.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
24. Let's hope that he explains his relationship with those who tortured when he goes through his
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:53 PM
Jan 2013

confirmation hearings.

farminator3000

(2,117 posts)
5. don't go there!
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:06 AM
Jan 2013

i think obama probably knowing the guy personally, has a good idea of what he's done and hasn't.

2nd time nominee...

blame W.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
20. Much of the article is about Brennan's objections to torture,
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 11:51 AM
Jan 2013

public and private. From the Reuters link:

After Brennan temporarily left government service in 2005, he publicly disavowed waterboarding, a form of simulated drowning, and other physically painful techniques that are often described as torture.

.....

Brennan was among agency officials who were uncomfortable with the use of physically coercive tactics, despite the legal opinions that supported their use. He expressed concern, according to these officials, that if details of the program became public, it would be CIA officers who would face criticism, rather than the politicians and lawyers who approved them.

"If John says he expressed reservations about some techniques, I believe him because he's an honest guy," said John McLaughlin, who was deputy CIA director at the time.

"Mr. Brennan had significant concerns and personal objections to many elements of the EIT (enhanced interrogation techniques) program while it was under way," a senior administration official said in response to Reuters' inquiries. "He voiced those objections privately with colleagues at the agency."



farminator3000

(2,117 posts)
21. i missploke. for torture, blame dickbag cheney.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:38 PM
Jan 2013

then again, if actually knew who to blame, they'd be screwing up their 'jobs' pretty badly.

blame W is about as fair as blame O, i'd say.

the web is much more complex, i reckon?

farminator3000

(2,117 posts)
6. we can still BLAME W!
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:08 AM
Jan 2013

and keep his memory alive!

i get 'enhanced interrogation' from my wife all the time.

joelz

(185 posts)
7. I don't think McCain is the only one upset about Obama
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:14 AM
Jan 2013

nominating a person who has endorsed torture by the Bush fuck ups.

The arbitrary detention and torture of legitimate suspects is bad enough, but it's even worse than that. The lack of due process in the extraordinary-rendition program Brennan defended inevitably led to the rendition and torture of people who were clearly innocent. One of the most egregious examples of this is Maher Arar, the Canadian engineer who was detained by the CIA without being charged at JFK airport and rendered to Syria. Predictably, Arar was held and tortured for nearly a year in one of Syria's worst prisons. And, as will tend to happen when people can be indefinitely detained at the unchecked whim of the executive branch, he was also entirely innocent. We do not need a director of the CIA who defended a program that was this disastrous on every level.
Brennan's defense of the Bush administration's extraordinary-rendition program should in itself be disqualifying. But as Glenn Greenwald and Alex Seitz-Wald at Salon have documented, it is not the only disturbing element of Brennan's record. He has also defended the torture practices euphemistically called "enhanced interrogation" in an interview for CBS News.

more at

http://prospect.org/article/embracing-legacy-torture

farminator3000

(2,117 posts)
8. no, don't blame W. this might get ugly! not about torture at all anymore...
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:28 AM
Jan 2013
http://truth-out.org/news/item/13826-the-grilling-that-brennan-deserves
Still, there is at least a hope that Brennan’s confirmation hearing might provide an opening for the Senate Intelligence Committee to force out the secret legal justifications and the operational procedures for the lethal drone program that has expanded under Obama, including successfully targeting for death U.S. citizen and al-Qaeda operative Anwar al-Awlaki in Yemen.

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As they dragged me out of the room, my parting words were: “I love the rule of law and I love my country. You are making us less safe by killing so many innocent people. Shame on you, John Brennan.”
http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/13876-john-brennan-vs-a-sixteen-year-old

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
19. Just as Eisenhower warned the nation over 50 years ago.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 11:39 AM
Jan 2013

Who pulls the strings is becoming more transparent of late, thanks to the internet.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
12. John McCain is no one to talk.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:07 AM
Jan 2013

Last edited Wed Jan 30, 2013, 01:14 PM - Edit history (1)

John McCain had his chance to take a principled stand against the use of torture when he was running for the Republican presidential nomination. At that time, however, he found it politically expedient to say that as President he would, ". . . not want to tie the CIA's hands," in regard to, "enhanced interrogation techniques."

Sorry, Senator, but you can't just dial that back and now pretend to be some kind of anti-torture crusader.

rosesaylavee

(12,126 posts)
14. Thank you...
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:48 AM
Jan 2013

I remember that too. McCain opinion on torture blows whichever way his addled mind takes him. Torture was a-ok with him during the last administration. He can't play that card now... I am sorry for what happened to him in Viet Nam but he can no longer take the high road on this topic.

And as for Brennan, according to the information at the link, there are witnesses to his disagreeing with the enhanced interrogation techniques. Are they really going to find someone with a CIA history that wasn't brushed with torture?

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
18. McCain can complain, but it won't matter.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:47 AM
Jan 2013

The use of torture and drones to serve corporate interests (You didn't think it was for our protection, did you?) is approved by both parties.

farminator3000

(2,117 posts)
23. kind of like rush limberger interviewing a new-age ollie north. hoooo boy getting ripe in there
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 01:43 PM
Jan 2013

did anybody watch the movie Green Zone?

he seems more like the a-hole than the old timer guy?

Brennan then left government service for a few years, becoming Chairman of the Intelligence and National Security Alliance (INSA) and the CEO of The Analysis Corporation(TAC) now renamed as Sotera Defense Solutions. He continued to lead TAC after its acquisition by Global Strategies Group in 2007 and its growth as the Global Intelligence Solutions division of Global's North American technology business GTEC, before returning to government service with the Obama administration.[11] On May 2, 2011, Brennan represented a team that killed Osama Bin Laden. He described the moments watching the SEAL teams move into Osama's compound as "one of the most anxiety filled times in the lives of the people assembled" and that "minutes passed like days".[19] On January 7, 2013, Brennan was nominated by President Barack Obama to be director of the Central Intelligence Agency. [20].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_O._Brennan

try a few of THOSE links!!!

Sotera Defense Solutions is a mid-tier government contractor that delivers a range of systems, solutions and services to support the missions of United States national security customers.
Sotera’s areas of expertise include data fusion and analytics, cyber network operations, mission IT solutions, tactical ISR and intelligence analysis and operations and their customers include organizations in the Intelligence Community, Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security and Federal Law enforcement.

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just google 'disposition matrix'. more

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http://www.democracynow.org/2013/1/30/whistleblower_john_kiriakou_for_embracing_torture
"I worked directly for John Brennan twice. I think that he is a terrible choice to lead the CIA. I think that it’s time for the CIA to move beyond the ugliness of the post-September 11th regime"

dude just got 30 months for....TORTURE!


hoooooooo boy!


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