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Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 11:48 AM Jun 2013

Made In USA On Rise

Source: NBC News

And small shop manufacturers aren't just dusting off shuttered businesses, locked up after jobs moved to countries such as Japan in the 1970s. Young entrepreneurs are innovating from scratch, creating new online communities such as Maker's Row -- and even turning to emerging platforms such as crowdfunding to bankroll U.S. manufacturing operations.

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/business/welcome-home-made-usa-rise-6C10225157



I think its finally beginning to sink in (among the masses) that actually making stuff here is to our benefit. I remember clearly in the 80's when Japan had the edge in producing stuff--and used their patriotism to justify it. This is clearly illustrated in the book "Trading Places" by Clyde Prestowitz which shows the insanity of how they maintained this edge. As an example, Japan made snow skies, but would not allow our American skies into their market because, as Japan claimed, "Japanese snow is different than American snow". And our idiots in Congress during Ronnie's era let it happen.
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Made In USA On Rise (Original Post) Left Coast2020 Jun 2013 OP
Good article. timdog44 Jun 2013 #1
US territories Crow73 Jun 2013 #4
Territories do get Minimum wage, but former "UN Trust Territories" do not. happyslug Jun 2013 #19
On TCM they show a lot Iliyah Jun 2013 #2
You want fries with that? Crow73 Jun 2013 #3
Actually, it goes back to Ronnie for McDonalds as a manufacturing facility. Left Coast2020 Jun 2013 #16
Absolutely critical to bring product production (other than food, oil, and weapons) back to the USA. Socal31 Jun 2013 #5
Are we starting to tire of cheap chinese stuff ? Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2013 #6
I have always timdog44 Jun 2013 #7
When I clicked on link:(Read More: Made in the USA: More Consumers Buying American) midnight Jun 2013 #8
I've noticed a Made in USA clothes lately!!! Skittles Jun 2013 #9
Unfortunately, those may have been made in the Mariannas. Almost as bad as China. SharonAnn Jun 2013 #12
Yes. Exactly! Saipan Left Coast2020 Jun 2013 #17
Actually all the garment factories in the Marianas are long, long gone Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #10
reagan made greed and idiocy fashionable Skittles Jun 2013 #13
Obvious troll post of obvious troll was left alone 1-5. 2ndAmForComputers Jun 2013 #20
well the message was auto-removed Skittles Jun 2013 #21
I was looking through my old "earthquake" kit (I live in California) that I've built on for 20 years tofuandbeer Jun 2013 #11
Here is a website listing "made in America" companies 7962 Jun 2013 #14
Think globally, act locally pscot Jun 2013 #15

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
1. Good article.
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 11:59 AM
Jun 2013

I am elated to see this is happening. I remember 50 years ago my Mom always looking at labels to be sure they said "Made in USA". Americans almost can not afford not to buy American made products as these establishments may very well be the next place they are employed. I am embarrassed sometimes to look at the labels in my clothes and other products I buy.

And as it said in the article. "As a country we can't all be servicing each other," Cahn said. "You have to have manufacturing."

 

Crow73

(257 posts)
4. US territories
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 01:10 PM
Jun 2013

You think they get minimum wage?
No one remembers Tom Delay and his whitewash of forced sweatshop abortion?

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
19. Territories do get Minimum wage, but former "UN Trust Territories" do not.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 01:40 PM
Jun 2013

The problems you hint at involve the former UN Trust Territories of the Mariana Islands. Due to how the Mariana Islands came under US Control, means two set of laws applies depending if we are referring to Guam or the other Mariana Islands. In 2007 the US Congress passed a law slowly equalizing the Minimum Wage in the Mariana Islands to be equal to US Minimum Wage (Prior to 2007 US Minimum wage only applied to Guam).

AS to the Mariana Island NORTH of Guam, these islands had been German possessions before WWI, then Japanese possessions, then the US obtained them from the UN as part of the Settlement of WWII. Technically they were NEVER part of the US, for all practical purposes they were.

Now, it was understood that the US only had them in Trust till such times as these territories would become independent. Starting in the 1980s the US started to make arrangements where these territories became independent, but they then turned they foreign policy over to the US. i.e. they are "Independent" but then the are not).

The main reason for this is what to do with these coral reefs and small volcanic islands? By far the largest island is Guam, and it was NOT part of the UN Trust Territory. Thus it was decided to set up the rest of the Mariana as

For example, lets look at the Mariana Island Group, consisting of the Guam which is the largest island in the Mariana Island Group and the rest of the Mariana Island group:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_Islands

Spain had all of them prior to 1898, but the US took Guam in the year (during the Spanish-American war), and Spain sold the rest to Germany in 1899. Japan took them over during WWI and this was recognized by the Treaty of Versailles that ended WWI.

The US took over the rest of the Mariana Island during WWII and became a UN trust territory of the US after WWII. On the other hand Guam had always been US territory (even when occupied by Japan during WWII).

Thus Guam comes under a different set of Laws then the smaller islands, but at the same time period it is the biggest island in the island group and natives move easily between the islands as they have for the last 2000 years.

Thus US law is different between these two territories (Technically each is a separate US "Unincorporated" "Organized" Territory, "Unincorporated" in that it is NOT considered a permanent part of the US, NOT "incorporated" with the 50 states, but it has some sort of Legal Organization imposed on it by Congress).

Thus Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands are Territories of the US, but come under different laws due to difference in how the US obtain jurisdiction over them.

Side note:
The other former UN Trust territories did not opt to became a US territory, through they also went from Spanish to German to Japanese then American rules as did the Northern Marianas These trust territories, the Former UN Trust Territories of the Carolina and Marshall Islands are now three "Independent" Republics, but whose foreign policy is governed by the US:

The Federated States of Micronesia: (Carolina Islands except for Palau):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federated_States_of_Micronesia

The Republic of Palau:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palau

The Republic of the Marshall Islands:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Islands


Side Note: While Spain claimed the Marshall islands, they never actually ruled them, unlike the Carolina and Mariana islands. Thus Spain gave whatever rights they had to the Marshall Islands to Germany in 1884. Germany had to wait till 1899 to get the Mariana and Carolina islands. This was due to Bismark's attitude to Colonies. Unlike other European leaders, Bismark wanted no part of the "Race for Colonies" that was characteristic of Europe in the late 1800s. Bismark did take over some colonies to keep those Germans who demanded Germany be like Britain and have they "Face in the Sun", but Bismark wanted to avoid any Colony that may lead to bad relations with any other Power. Thus Bismark had no problem taking over the Marshalls, which no one really wanted. On the other hand once Kaiser Wilhelm II dismissed Bismark in the early 1890s, Kaiser Wilhelm II went "Shopping" for colonies and that explains the German purchase of the Marianas and Carolinas from Spain in 1899.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. On TCM they show a lot
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 12:51 PM
Jun 2013

of old commercials, a lot of them showing how products and clothing were made in the US of A.

 

Crow73

(257 posts)
3. You want fries with that?
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 01:07 PM
Jun 2013

If you recall fast food was included into manufacturers under W.
You think that has changed?

Socal31

(2,484 posts)
5. Absolutely critical to bring product production (other than food, oil, and weapons) back to the USA.
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 02:03 PM
Jun 2013

Germany is a standout in that particular region right now, and there is a reason why.

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
7. I have always
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 02:35 PM
Jun 2013

been tired of cheap Chinese stuff. You have to buy the same thing every year. I want something that is going to last a few years at the very least. Good old American made products were something to be proud of. Made In The USA!!!! I was.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
8. When I clicked on link:(Read More: Made in the USA: More Consumers Buying American)
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 03:09 PM
Jun 2013

I received a forbidden screen...

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
9. I've noticed a Made in USA clothes lately!!!
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 04:34 PM
Jun 2013

I ALWAYS look because it influences my decision - I've been disgusted for so long it is SUCH a pleasure to see MADE IN USA. LOVE IT!!!

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
17. Yes. Exactly! Saipan
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 11:27 PM
Jun 2013

Was in the hotel directly across street from a sweatshop. I wrote about it here long time ago. But Saipan is a US "territory". Thats why they claim made in U.S.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
18. Actually all the garment factories in the Marianas are long, long gone
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 12:30 AM
Jun 2013

About 90% of the garment factories here closed down in 2004 when GATT fully kicked in and China had open access to American markets on a scale that had not enjoyed before making the labor costs on Saipan - as low as they were but 10 times higher than Chinese wages and labor cost - an expense that the largely Chinese owned garment industry was no longer willing to bare. A few factories remained here until 2009 - attempting to compete in the world of niche markets - but they finally folded by February 2009,

http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/international/radio/onairhighlights/demise-of-last-three-garment-factories-on-saipan

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Skittles

(153,138 posts)
13. reagan made greed and idiocy fashionable
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 07:07 PM
Jun 2013

MUCH of America's woes can be traced DIRECTLY to his trickle-down BULLSHIT policies

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
21. well the message was auto-removed
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:27 PM
Jun 2013

so SOMETHING happened

and 2ndAMforComputers, we "bother" because we will NEVER stop fighting - never!!!

tofuandbeer

(1,314 posts)
11. I was looking through my old "earthquake" kit (I live in California) that I've built on for 20 years
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 05:54 PM
Jun 2013

and found a package of Gillette Schick disposable razors. I was reading the label, and noticed it said "Made in the U.S.A."
It was so strange seeing those 3 words together on a corporate product.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
14. Here is a website listing "made in America" companies
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 08:26 PM
Jun 2013
http://www.americansworking.com/clothing.html

I cant vouch for authenticity, but there are a LOT of names and things listed. I was surprised.
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