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TomCADem

(17,378 posts)
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 11:56 PM Jun 2013

E3: PlayStation 4 console shown off by Sony

Source: BBC

The firm added that the machine would be sold for £349 in the UK, $399 in the US and 399 euros across Europe, making it cheaper than the Xbox One.

Microsoft had earlier said its console would cost £429 in the UK, $499 in the US and 499 euros.

The firm also attracted big cheers when it announced it would not introduce any new restrictions on pre-owned disc-based game bought from friends or retailers, nor would it require users to authenticate their machines via the internet at least once a day to allow games to be played.

By contrast, Microsoft has introduced limitations on who consumers can buy second-hand titles from and introduced a requirement to connect to the net once every 24-hours to play on the Xbox One.


Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22850409



A minor victory for consumers after Microsoft proposed to restrict consumers from reselling used games and required them to maintain a constant connection to the internet ala the Borg. Even better, it is cheaper than the Xbox One. It is frankly amazing how badly Microsoft pretty much lost the console war at E3 with its anti-consumer offering.
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E3: PlayStation 4 console shown off by Sony (Original Post) TomCADem Jun 2013 OP
Consumers will always gravitate towards choices and greater options Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #1
Probably felt they had a captive audience no matter what Posteritatis Jun 2013 #14
Kudos to Sony for taking the high road. Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #2
Publishers might still be able to require some sort of activation code for their games on PS4. Skeeter Barnes Jun 2013 #3
Microsoft coming in at $100 more plus another $60 per year to play online. Skeeter Barnes Jun 2013 #4
And don't forget the $50 per month internet access fees jmowreader Jun 2013 #11
That's right and you will probably lag if you get the cheapest broadband speed your Skeeter Barnes Jun 2013 #15
Hmmm...I'm haing an E3 2000 flashback... Archae Jun 2013 #5
Win8's suckiness, Xbox One's awful restrictions, they trying to put themselves out of business. OverBurn Jun 2013 #6
Wow, that is one massive price difference Franker65 Jun 2013 #7
Ironic that the nominally "American" company is the more draconian... Moostache Jun 2013 #8
but again, it's still not backward compatible. nt Javaman Jun 2013 #9
That does suck, but PS3's will probably get cheap soon NickB79 Jun 2013 #12
Sony said it is. When did that change? n/t ieoeja Jun 2013 #13
It is? I heard it wasn't. Javaman Jun 2013 #18
Okay, I did a little research... Javaman Jun 2013 #19
Awesome. MrSlayer Jun 2013 #10
I Was Actually Looking Forward To Xbox One, But... TomCADem Jun 2013 #16
PAYING for a used game? DiverDave Jun 2013 #17
It's mostly the game publishers that are behind this policy. Skeeter Barnes Jun 2013 #20

Harmony Blue

(3,978 posts)
1. Consumers will always gravitate towards choices and greater options
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 11:59 PM
Jun 2013

It baffles me why Microsoft drank the kool aid so much when it came to their own product. Brand loyalty or because of a few console exclusive games isn't enough in the long run.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
14. Probably felt they had a captive audience no matter what
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 05:36 PM
Jun 2013

That's why a lot of companies in the gaming industry tend towards sillier restrictions as time goes by; they know people will stamp and howl and then just buy the next Call of Duty game or whatnot anyway.

I'd say Sony hurt them this time around, but really they're hurting themselves by betting on that kind of stability. Microsoft did a pretty good job of losing the console war, at least for this generation of systems.

Skeeter Barnes

(994 posts)
3. Publishers might still be able to require some sort of activation code for their games on PS4.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 12:52 AM
Jun 2013

They get more greedy with every new generation.

Skeeter Barnes

(994 posts)
4. Microsoft coming in at $100 more plus another $60 per year to play online.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 01:03 AM
Jun 2013

The PS4 is looking great in comparison. They even went and made a controller that looks like it might be comfortable to use.

jmowreader

(50,453 posts)
11. And don't forget the $50 per month internet access fees
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:49 PM
Jun 2013

Okay, a lot of people have broadband internet access at home...but a lot don't.

Skeeter Barnes

(994 posts)
15. That's right and you will probably lag if you get the cheapest broadband speed your
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 09:39 PM
Jun 2013

cable provider offers. You might have to pay more than $50 for good gaming performance.

Archae

(46,262 posts)
5. Hmmm...I'm haing an E3 2000 flashback...
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 01:10 AM
Jun 2013

Sony kept bragging about what their Playstation 2 could do.

Turns out most of what they bragged about at E3 was a lie.

I have a Playstation 2 now, bought it second-hand.

And I'm going to stick with my Xbox 360, and Nintendo Gamecube.

Some good games coming soon, from Disney, Lego and Activision.

OverBurn

(935 posts)
6. Win8's suckiness, Xbox One's awful restrictions, they trying to put themselves out of business.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 01:45 AM
Jun 2013

One can only hope.

Franker65

(299 posts)
7. Wow, that is one massive price difference
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 02:52 AM
Jun 2013

And I think this will really hurt Microsoft. PS4 looks fantastic.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
8. Ironic that the nominally "American" company is the more draconian...
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 08:21 AM
Jun 2013

I guess it really should be no surprise at all, but the Japanese company respects the individual consumer more than the American company here...

Microsoft: "You are a criminal and WE will say exactly how and when you gain access to our content, which WE own and you rent."
Sony: "You are a customer and YOU will determine how you use our content after you buy and own it from us for a price."

No question in my mind which approach is going to be better in the log run...

NickB79

(19,114 posts)
12. That does suck, but PS3's will probably get cheap soon
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 05:02 PM
Jun 2013

When the PS3 came out, the PS2 quickly dropped in price to $99. I grabbed one, even though my current one was still running fine, as a backup for my PS2 game library. It's still in the box. I'll probably end up giving it to my daughter once she's old enough to play games, since I've been able to pick up tons of kid-friendly PS2 games for dirt cheap at the pawn shops now.

Javaman

(62,442 posts)
19. Okay, I did a little research...
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 12:10 PM
Jun 2013

Here's the deal. Sony bought a company called GyKiest(sp) either last year or the year before.

Via this service you can play old games on the PS4.

However, when asked if old games that people are in possession of are able to play on the PS4, there was no clear response.

So, it's a matter of wait and see.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
10. Awesome.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:30 PM
Jun 2013

The PS3 was always better than the Xbox and the new one will blow the doors of the new Xbox.

Elder Scrolls online!

TomCADem

(17,378 posts)
16. I Was Actually Looking Forward To Xbox One, But...
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 11:43 PM
Jun 2013

...Coming in at $499, plus requiring the system to be connected to the internet all the time and restricting the purchase of used games? The hubris is unbelievable. Sony got ahead by simply standing still.

DiverDave

(4,876 posts)
17. PAYING for a used game?
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 05:53 AM
Jun 2013

up their behinds.
My kids play xbox, and I dont think I will be paying for the 'one'.

Man, m$ sure does want our money,eh?

Skeeter Barnes

(994 posts)
20. It's mostly the game publishers that are behind this policy.
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:52 PM
Jun 2013

Companies like Electronic Arts and Activision are the ones that want to keep us from trading games or buying them used. Microsoft did what the big publishers wanted and now they've got a PR disaster on their hands.

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