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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 08:21 AM Jun 2013

Census Benchmark for White Americans: More Deaths Than Births

Source: New York Times

Deaths exceeded births among non-Hispanic white Americans for the first time in at least a century, according to new census data, a benchmark that heralds profound demographic change.

The disparity was tiny — only about 12,000 — and was more than made up by a gain of 188,000 as a result of immigration from abroad. But the decrease for the year ending July 1, 2012, coupled with the fact that a majority of births in the United States are now to Hispanic, black and Asian mothers, is further evidence that white Americans will become a minority nationwide within about three decades.

Over all, the number of non-Hispanic white Americans is expected to begin declining by the end of this decade.

“These new census estimates are an early signal alerting us to the impending decline in the white population that will characterize most of the 21st century,” said William H. Frey, a demographer with the Brookings Institution.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/13/us/census-benchmark-for-white-americans-more-deaths-than-births.html



Prepare the smelling salts for the GOPNRAteahadists.
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Census Benchmark for White Americans: More Deaths Than Births (Original Post) onehandle Jun 2013 OP
This will indeed add to the crazy BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #1
part of that i expect is more births of mixed race children eShirl Jun 2013 #2
It's happening here in Korea as well davidpdx Jun 2013 #11
I'm reminded of the great Bulworth quote phantom power Jun 2013 #12
Technically, that is already the case and has been the case since we started moving around. antigone382 Jun 2013 #17
Aaaaaaaand weepy Glennnn Beckkk breakdown in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . . hatrack Jun 2013 #3
It's the Pig Coming Out of the Python Demeter Jun 2013 #4
Population SamKnause Jun 2013 #5
they heaven05 Jun 2013 #6
Uh-ho, Quiverfull will be recruiting now!! sinkingfeeling Jun 2013 #7
Doesn't bother me in the least, and I'm white get the red out Jun 2013 #8
The usual suspects Berlin Expat Jun 2013 #13
Am I too old to get busy? DainBramaged Jun 2013 #9
Charlie Chaplin and Tony Randall say no from beyond the grave. nt onehandle Jun 2013 #10
kick for visability n/t azurnoir Jun 2013 #14
This freckled Irish-American is smiling Hekate Jun 2013 #15
We of Norse origin and descent had no such problems. Sognefjord Jun 2013 #16

eShirl

(18,490 posts)
2. part of that i expect is more births of mixed race children
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 08:39 AM
Jun 2013

As a white American nerd, I welcome Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
11. It's happening here in Korea as well
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 09:56 AM
Jun 2013

Korea has been one of the most homogeneous countries in the world. Now there are 2 million foreigners and about 200,000 multicultural children in Korea. The estimate is 4 million foreigners by 2050 which would be about 10% of the population (which will drop from the current 48 million to around 40 million due to the high number of older people).

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
12. I'm reminded of the great Bulworth quote
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 10:04 AM
Jun 2013

"All we need is a voluntary, free-spirited, open-ended program of procreative racial deconstruction. Everybody just gotta keep fuckin' everybody 'til they're all the same color."


Or better yet, not until we're all the same, but until there is infinite variety

antigone382

(3,682 posts)
17. Technically, that is already the case and has been the case since we started moving around.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:20 PM
Jun 2013

There are no clear-cut, biologically identifiable "races" as we understand the term. Basically, when you look at the genomes of people of "different" races, there are as many variations between those of the "same" race as there are between those of "different races." If you don't know the specific genes which code for hair texture, skin color, eye shape, or the other arbitrary observable differences by which we determine racial identity, it is impossible to group people into separate racial categories based on their genes. Nevertheless, these endless variations in physical appearance are simplified by social conventions into arbitrarily defined racial categories.

These categories are different in different cultures, and even among different people in the same culture. Look at President Obama: we define him as "black" even though his mother is white and he has medium-toned skin, because his father is African. In general in the US, we determine someone's racial identity through the racial identity of their parents. In Brazil, this is less the case--racial identity is determined completely by physical appearance regardless of the race of one's parents.

Another interesting fact: the people of Papua New Guinea, who are darker-skinned and have what we consider "African" features, are actually more closely related to Europeans than they are to Africans, and Africans are in turn more closely related to Europeans than they are to those from New Guinea. Yet here, they would likely be lumped into the racial category of "African American," and assumed to share in the ancestry and culture of that "race."

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
6. they
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 09:15 AM
Jun 2013

will not be fainting. It's tribal and since we REALLY haven't evolved that far from ancient tribal mentality, who knows the trouble brewing. I'm not happy at those thoughts. I'm sixty five, so hopefully I will have passed from this plane of existence before tribalism's violence returns, big time.

get the red out

(13,461 posts)
8. Doesn't bother me in the least, and I'm white
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 09:35 AM
Jun 2013

But I am afraid of the jack-asses who will be very bothered by it. Frightening people.

Berlin Expat

(950 posts)
13. The usual suspects
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 10:35 AM
Jun 2013

are freaking out, or are 'concerned' that it means the "end of 'Murica" or such nonsense.

Hekate

(90,637 posts)
15. This freckled Irish-American is smiling
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 03:56 PM
Jun 2013

Only reading "Born Fighting" the superb book by Jim Webb, helped me understand part of the nativist fervor among such a large portion of whites in this country, because my own family mythology (waves of immigrants, waves of immigrants) and place of upbringing (multi-racial Hawai'i in the 1950s and 1960s) did not give me the tools to understand it. Webb points out that for a century, at least, the overwhelming preponderance of immigration to the US was English and Scots-Irish. If it was unsettling to suddenly get a wave of Irish, Italians, and Jews, at least they finally assimilated and -- ahem -- were white.

But the country, in very significant areas, still has a mythology of the core of America as being English-speaking and of British Isles stock.

Hang on folks, it's going to be another bumpy ride. But we'll be the better for it, ultimately.

Sognefjord

(229 posts)
16. We of Norse origin and descent had no such problems.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:07 PM
Jun 2013

We simply got our own parts of the state (Iowa, Minnesota, Dakotas) with our own farms and towns and churches. The Hollanders did the same.

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