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Omaha Steve

(99,573 posts)
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:12 PM Jun 2013

Men's Wearhouse ousts founder, pitchman Zimmer

Source: AP-Excite

By ANNE D'INNOCENZIO

NEW YORK (AP) - Men's Wearhouse (MW) doesn't like the way its founder looks anymore.

The men's clothier said Wednesday that it fired executive chairman and face of the company George Zimmer, 64, who has appeared in many of its TV commercials with the slogan "You're going to like the way you look. I guarantee it."

The company announced the move in a terse statement that gave no reason for the abrupt firing of Zimmer, who built Men's Wearhouse Inc. from one small Texas store using a cigar box as a cash register to one of North America's largest men's clothing sellers with 1,143 locations.

The firing appears to end the career of one of TV's most recognizable pitchmen. Zimmer's gravelly-voiced slogan became almost a cultural touchstone, and his natty but down-to-earth charm made dressing sharply feel more accessible to men.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20130619/DA713RT00.html





In this Thursday, May 6, 1999 file photo, George Zimmer, second from left, gestures to Andy Dolich prior to a meeting, in Oakland, Calif. Men's Wearhouse Inc. says it has dismissed Zimmer, its founder and executive chairman. In a terse release issued Wednesday, June 19, 2013, the company didn't give a reason for the abrupt firing of Zimmer, who built Men's Wearhouse from one small Texas store using a cigar box as a cash register to one of the nation's largest specialty retailers in men's clothing, with 1,143 locations. (AP Photo/Ben Margot, File)

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Men's Wearhouse ousts founder, pitchman Zimmer (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jun 2013 OP
I guess the firm is 'lucky' they get to continue using his ads, elleng Jun 2013 #1
But but but... mike dub Jun 2013 #2
My guess is he was fired SwankyXomb Jun 2013 #3
My first thought was they dumped him for the crime of being .... OLD. MADem Jun 2013 #19
That's basically it jmowreader Jun 2013 #37
For whatever reason, I always had a spot in my heart for his cheesiness BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #4
he was also an advocate of legalizing pot Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #6
hmmm..therein may lie the answer.. pipoman Jun 2013 #7
understandable, because when a seed pops, it burns a hole in your suit markiv Jun 2013 #29
yes, he is a big supporter of democrats and liberal causes fishwax Jun 2013 #41
that's right! Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #42
+1 Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #17
I always liked him, too. nt valerief Jun 2013 #31
They still get to use his ads for another 500 hours I read. DebJ Jun 2013 #5
That type of advertising pipoman Jun 2013 #8
You misread, I think... jmowreader Jun 2013 #35
It would be interesting to know the severance package pipoman Jun 2013 #9
Could we PLEASE use this opportunity to update men's fashion? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #10
LOL "you can't tell"..... that is funny because it is so true. DebJ Jun 2013 #11
They are finally addressing the issue of manditory nylons for women... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #12
Oh yuck I forgot all about pantyhose. I haven't worn them but DebJ Jun 2013 #13
The classic 7/11 emergency Leggs purchase was the norm for years. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #14
And they fit like crap on a tall woman for most of those years. DebJ Jun 2013 #15
I always wondered if future archeologists will think they we worshipped ostriches. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #18
Pull your Nehru jacket out from the back of the closet...or your LEISURE suit!!! MADem Jun 2013 #21
This is the 21st century!!! Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #23
Agreed. I want to see men dressed up as dandies. Trouser tights would be a lovely change. nt valerief Jun 2013 #30
What? No cod pieces? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #32
For Republicans only. nt valerief Jun 2013 #33
Isn't that already happening? The kids today, poor things, they look like MADem Jun 2013 #38
And on the other side, women have extreme social pressure to spend continuously on their wardrobe. JudyM Jun 2013 #34
I've heard this argument before... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #36
Coco Chanel. MADem Jun 2013 #39
I'll miss him Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2013 #16
If I remember correctly MurrayDelph Jun 2013 #20
Odd thought (and I am most likely wrong) rpannier Jun 2013 #22
Tea Party always complains about the government 'oppressing' the businessman ck4829 Jun 2013 #24
Recently I was thinking he's aged well and finally beginning lunatica Jun 2013 #25
Washed Up In Corporate America - It Happens To Us All cantbeserious Jun 2013 #26
zimmy zimmer zimmerman guilty guilty guilty nt. graham4anything Jun 2013 #27
Clearly, they no longer guarantee you'll like the way you look. n/t malthaussen Jun 2013 #28
They don't like the way he looks...poor basstid. nt MADem Jun 2013 #40

elleng

(130,860 posts)
1. I guess the firm is 'lucky' they get to continue using his ads,
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:15 PM
Jun 2013

as I doubt cutting him off the air would do them any good. (Sorry for HIM they can do so, tho.)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
19. My first thought was they dumped him for the crime of being .... OLD.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:00 AM
Jun 2013

But cheap products wouldn't surprise me, either.

You can wait for the annual sale at Brooks Brothers, I suppose.

jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
37. That's basically it
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:05 PM
Jun 2013

According to ABC, he'd already named a successor and was in the process of reducing his duties. He got canned as part of a pissing contest over marketing to millennials. I translate that to meaning he still wanted to be the public face of the company in a time when 30-year-old stockbrokers and lawyers would rather buy their Serious Businessman Uniforms from people who are not 65 years old.

The thing is, if your work wardrobe consists of five identical dark woolen suits for winter, five identical dark poly-wool blend suits for summer, five white shirts, two red ties and two pair of black shoes, and that is all you are allowed to wear, does it matter how old the guy selling it to you is?

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
4. For whatever reason, I always had a spot in my heart for his cheesiness
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:45 PM
Jun 2013

The guy could sell; I have worked with enough mediocre salespeople to appreciate the value of that.

 

markiv

(1,489 posts)
29. understandable, because when a seed pops, it burns a hole in your suit
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:04 AM
Jun 2013

and you have to buy another

all kidding aside, i likes his commercials and stores

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
41. yes, he is a big supporter of democrats and liberal causes
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 01:18 AM
Jun 2013

Also, the Oakland store closed in solidarity with the Occupy Protests, which was cool.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
5. They still get to use his ads for another 500 hours I read.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:23 AM
Jun 2013

My husband and I are expecting them to actually PAY the customers to take their merchandise
soon, as their buy one-get one free adds keep escalating...buy one, get four, etc.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
8. That type of advertising
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:43 AM
Jun 2013

is a huge snowball..been there done that..not to that degree..people will not buy if there isn't a coupon. It took me a year to fully recover from not keeping a coupon out there, but now 2 years later, I seldom issue coupons and my business hasn't been better or more consistent.

jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
35. You misread, I think...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:47 PM
Jun 2013

They have 500 hours' worth of his ads...since he made one-minute spots, that's 30,000 commercials. Since there hasn't been a significant change in men's fashion since the government banned the zoot suit, they could theoretically use his spots forever.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
9. It would be interesting to know the severance package
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:47 AM
Jun 2013

or the terms under which he ceded controlling interest..

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
10. Could we PLEASE use this opportunity to update men's fashion?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:49 AM
Jun 2013

Ties are SOooo "last century".

Women have a wide variety but "The suit" is all guys are allowed. There have been minor changes over the years but there is something wrong when you can still toss on something from 50 years ago and you can't fucking tell.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
11. LOL "you can't tell"..... that is funny because it is so true.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:56 AM
Jun 2013

I think men should burn their ties the way women burned their bras, and toss the heels in the fire, too.
I once had the misfortune (in a restaurant) of being required to wear a tie, and a bra, while being on
my feet over 12 hours a day, often for 9 days in a row, alternating night and day shifts so sleeping was
greatly restricted...........having that tie choking me was just too much to handle. It's awful, cruel,
and stupid.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
12. They are finally addressing the issue of manditory nylons for women...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:38 AM
Jun 2013

They promote bacterial growth on the skin.

Wear those all day and your entire leg smells like feet.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
13. Oh yuck I forgot all about pantyhose. I haven't worn them but
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:41 AM
Jun 2013

perhaps three times in 15 years. At one point in my life as a single
mom with two young children, I became quite skilled at putting them
on while driving to work on the Baltimore Beltway...that was my only
'free' time..........

And actually, the last few times I wore thigh-highs, no pantyhose nonsense.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
15. And they fit like crap on a tall woman for most of those years.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:56 AM
Jun 2013

I wonder how much landfill is now used by all those empty half-eggs?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
21. Pull your Nehru jacket out from the back of the closet...or your LEISURE suit!!!
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:16 AM
Jun 2013





Or you could go equator-ish, and go for the guayabera/barong look:





Or....there's always the future....






 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
23. This is the 21st century!!!
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:41 AM
Jun 2013

We're supposed to be wearing silver jump suits and turtle necks.

(I guess the dickie killed those, just with it's name.)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
38. Isn't that already happening? The kids today, poor things, they look like
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:17 PM
Jun 2013

produce smugglers in those "skinny jeans!"



And I can't help but notice that "Hammer pants" (aka I Dream of Jeannie-wear for Men) have made a comeback, as well...!

JudyM

(29,225 posts)
34. And on the other side, women have extreme social pressure to spend continuously on their wardrobe.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:22 PM
Jun 2013

Personally, I'd prefer the guys' situation. Women have to spend on their wardrobes to stay current or else risk looking dowdy or even laughable because the styles change so continuously - the hemline, the waistline, the shaping, the fabric, the color, everything, all the time.

It is a social issue - both for women in general (except those who have ample money and enjoy spending it on clothes) and for the environment: a huge portion of our landfill volume is fabric production. It is sad to me how much of women's energy goes toward maintaining a current wardrobe.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
36. I've heard this argument before...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:59 PM
Jun 2013

It's usually followed by some lame thing about men needing their brains for work and not clothes backed by the observation that Einstein has duplicates of the same suit so he didn't have to think about what to wear, and still was known to forget to zip his fly.

Come on. Look how styles change over the centuries. It's like there is an effort to keep the 20th going.

Speaking of,...when is THIS going to get an update?



MADem

(135,425 posts)
39. Coco Chanel.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:27 PM
Jun 2013

She sold fashion (and perfumes) to women, but she never changed her style...




Assuming she could still fit in the stuff, she could wear her age 30 outfits at age 70 without missing a beat.

MurrayDelph

(5,293 posts)
20. If I remember correctly
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:04 AM
Jun 2013

he once turned down a raise from the board of directors on the grounds that the increase in his salary could be used to counteract the layoffs of three (or more) employees.

If true, no wonder the board wanted to get rid of him; he was making them look human.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
22. Odd thought (and I am most likely wrong)
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:17 AM
Jun 2013

His name is too similar to the guy in Florida George Zimmerman
Not trying to be funny. But with the stupidity of many Americans I could see that worrying some

ck4829

(35,042 posts)
24. Tea Party always complains about the government 'oppressing' the businessman
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 05:41 AM
Jun 2013

But I guess it's alright when the board fires the man who founded it from nothing, well, it's not... SOCIALISM.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
25. Recently I was thinking he's aged well and finally beginning
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:41 AM
Jun 2013

to do the commercials better. Oh well, another familiar face bites the dust because he's too old or something.



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