In Major Blow To Consumers, Supreme Court Protects Mega-Corporations From Liability
Source: ThinkProgress & AP
(Credit: Associated Press)
In case it werent clear already, the U.S. Supreme Court hammered home Thursday morning that it will protect the rights of corporations to force arbitration over the individuals access to the court system at any expense.
In a 5-3 ruling with Justice Sonia Sotomayor recused, Justice Antonin Scalia eviscerated almost any opportunity small merchants have to challenge alleged monopolistic practices by American Express in their credit card agreements.
Sound familiar? Earlier this term, the court turned back on procedural grounds a lawsuit alleging monopolistic practices by Comcast. A week after that, they turned back the claims of workers to challenge employer practices as a class. And in 2011, they issued one of the worst blows to consumer rights in years when they held that consumers challenging $30 fees could not sue together as a class. In each of these cases, the courts procedural rulings meant the parties may never get to argue about whether these corporations actually violated the law. And as a consequence, these corporations will never be held accountable.
With Thursdays ruling, the court added small businesses to the list of aggrieved parties whose access to the courthouse has been foreclosed by boilerplate contracts that prohibit parties from filing their challenge as a class, or from otherwise alleviating the immense cost of filing their claims individually. This time, the litigants were small businesses taking on American Express, and their lawyer was none other than conservative powerhouse Paul Clement. Clement has argued many of the major conservative court wins of the past few years, and his argument on the side of the plaintiffs was probably the last best shot at curbing the Roberts Courts total perversion of the Federal Arbitration Act.
Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/06/20/2189061/even-small-businesses-cant-shake-mega-corporations-chokehold-on-access-to-the-courts/
Anyone surprised that the US is completely owned and controlled by corprats, all the way up to the USSC? I keep telling people: "If you hate so-called " big government" then get your asses busy and DO something about BIG CORPORATIONS that own & control gov't - because that's the damn problem!"
Demeter
(85,373 posts)BOYCOTTBOYCOTTBOYCOTTBOYCOTTBOYCOTTBOYCOTTBOYCOTTBOYCOTTBOYCOTTBOYCOTT
aquart
(69,014 posts)You shouldn't be carrying them anyway. They are horribly greedy and very expensive for merchants.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)In most firms if you have to travel at all on business they issue you an Amex and require all travel expenses, air fare, hotel, meals on the road, rental cars, etc., be paid for on that card.
It's very unlikely that regular folks can touch Amex in any way with a boycott.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)American Express made an appointment to come out and discuss our taking their card at our shop. They never showed up for that appointment. A few years later they made another appointment to come out and surprisingly they never showed up for that one. When I got a call from them later on to make yet another appointment, I simply told them that we would not consider accepting their card in our store if they were so very discourteous as to fail to show up and not have the decency to at least call.
So that pretty much took care of American Express in my eyes and it's chance at any piece of our business.
booley
(3,855 posts)And as a business owner, i know there's no way I can avoid VISA. Too many people use it.
Now that there's legal cover, expect other companies to take advantage of this.
aquart
(69,014 posts)But a refusal to use AmEx will be noticed.
Hurt their bottom line.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)aquart
(69,014 posts)No? Then NO, it's not time.
I really hate hysterical knee-jerk reactions.
Veilex
(1,555 posts)and other garbage out there... but this might actually be useful: http://www.buycott.com/
Lucky Luciano
(11,253 posts)It is roughly like getting a $50 rebate each month on my rent doing it that way.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)AndyA
(16,993 posts)If you haven't got $$$$$, no one really gives a sh!t about you. We have the best government $$$$$ can buy.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)As long as I can remember, and I am 58
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)The people are irrelevant.
The name of the country should be changed to the United Corporations of America.
has a ring to it. Could that be because it is true?
OhioChick
(23,218 posts)pocoloco
(3,180 posts)People are "The" cash crop!
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)another word for bribe - I hope that our judicial branch have no resorted to such things
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Their credit card is an American Express.
The only reason I have one.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)Over 30 years ago I had a problem with my American Express account. They were incredibly rude and obnoxious over the entire thing - which was a misunderstanding. About the same time I had a discussion with a small business owner about why they did not take AE - AE had MUCH higher fees for the business than any other credit card at the time. So I paid the amount owed to AE and closed the account. Haven't missed it, ever.
Every month I get several offers for American Express cards - they all got straight to the shredder. I don't even open them.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)They cost small business a lot of money...hate them.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)They get the American Express, even if I planned on paying cash.
LittleGirl
(8,282 posts)I love my Amer Exp card. It pays out once a year and pays for our executive membership for Costco. I use it everywhere. I don't think I could give it up. sorry, I can't boycott.
I don't agree with the courts decision either.
nineteen50
(1,187 posts)grand?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)not when it comes to the corporate personhoods anyway
Triana
(22,666 posts)...you know, legal psychopathic entities known as "corporations", which they've declared are "people". As for ACTUAL people, USSC flatly says: "go to hell."
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)Initech
(100,063 posts)He does not represent us. He represents the big wealthy business interests.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Alhena
(3,030 posts)As an attorney, I can tell you that every company in America is going to have an arbitration provision taking advantage of this ruling, if they don't have one already (and they probably did after the US Supreme Court's prior gifts to corporations in the Concepcion and Rent-A-Center decisions). It will be included in the fine print of every credit card agreement, every phone service agreement, you name it.
And then the companies can feel quite comfortable in committing fraud upon consumers, knowing full well that they can't afford to file an individual arbitration action.
It's not just AmEx that benefits from this. Any corporation that deals with consumers does, and it would be corporate malpractice not to insert the magic fine print into their agreements that says they never have to worry about getting sued for ripping consumers off.
On the bright side, if we keep electing Democratic presidents eventually one of the conservative 5 is going to die or retire and be replaced by someone more consumer-friendly.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)The Republicans could have NEVER put Alito and Roberts on the Supreme Court without the direct help of the "Centrist" Democrats.
If you have forgotten,
Google: "Gang of 14"
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)and understand where their interests lie. And it's obviously NOT with the big bourgeoisie. It's with the working class.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)K&R
They_Live
(3,231 posts)mega-corporation, a consumers corporation, then we too will be free of liability. Utterly ridiculous.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)Thanks for the thread, Triana.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)panzerfaust
(2,818 posts)"Corporations are people, my friend... of course they are. Everything corporations earn ultimately goes to the people. Where do you think it goes? Whose pockets? Whose pockets? People's pockets. Human beings my friend."
Mitt Romoney
Aug 2011
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
DarthDem
(5,255 posts)Sharp, sarcastic, penetrates Scalia's irrational grounds easiky, and even funny. Bravo!
I don't know if this will have the broad effect that we fear (although it certainly doesn't help matters). One of the problems that the conservatives on the Court often have is that they have to tie themselves in knots to justify their tortured, results-oriented "logic," and this enables clever district and circuit judges to evade the SCOTUS holdings if they wish. Here, Scalia made no attempt to overrule the "effective vindication" rule, so it remains valid. Moreover, the party challenging the arb agreement here was not a consumer, but a small business, and the case might also be limited in future application to the antitrust realm. Bad, yes, but not as bad as it could be.
Still: we need to get Congress back so we can invalidate bad decisions like this one via legislative amendments, like the Ledbetter Act.
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Hoards of people putting more time & labor into supporting corporations = more money for the corporations to buy and sell us all.
You can't support the destruction of our country, our natural resources, our environment and our political process and then claim you support it.
Well, you can. That is how we got where we are. People proclaiming to be on one side while funding the attacks from the other.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)This is a reminder...he's a corporate robot. He kept Obamacare because, while it may be good for the people, its most definitely good for the corps.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)ctsnowman
(1,903 posts)talk about small business but never back it up unless it's vs and individual and then it depends on who the person is.
KauaiK
(544 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)the Telecommunications Act
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
allan01
(1,950 posts)i was a 4 year accounting student in college, and had a wonderful accounting instructor. he really opened my eyes up to practical math. he also stated along with insurance, credit cards are the biggest legal scams in history.
Raster
(20,998 posts)...expect anything more? The SCOTUS have made it very clear that their allegiance is not to the rule of law, but to the rule of money and corporate power.