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Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 03:00 PM Jun 2013

Mitch McConnell Spars With Norm Ornstein: 'You've Been Consistently Wrong On Almost Everything'

Last edited Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:00 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Huffington Post

WASHINGTON -- Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) came to the American Enterprise Institute on Friday to give a speech on the First Amendment, but the most memorable moment was his awkward exchange with Norm Ornstein, a centrist political pundit who has apparently irked McConnell over the years.

Ornstein, also an AEI scholar and congressional expert, was among those who rose to ask McConnell a question after his speech. As soon as he identified himself, McConnell let him have it.

"I've enjoyed dueling you, Norm, over the years. You've been consistently wrong on almost everything," McConnell said to laughs. "I've always wondered, you know, who eats lunch with you over here?"


Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/mitch-mcconnell-norm-ornstein_n_3479016.html

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Mitch McConnell Spars With Norm Ornstein: 'You've Been Consistently Wrong On Almost Everything' (Original Post) Firebrand Gary Jun 2013 OP
No intelligence Iliyah Jun 2013 #1
No class. No Vested Interest Jun 2013 #2
Typical Chickenhawk formercia Jun 2013 #3
He looks more like a snaping turtle. southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #5
headline is wrong alp227 Jun 2013 #4
Yes, because there is an actual post of Senate Historian frazzled Jun 2013 #8
Right, and much better, elleng Jun 2013 #9
Actually, the headline is written exactly as it was posted to HP front page. nt Firebrand Gary Jun 2013 #14
That is until I altered it to reflect your request. Firebrand Gary Jun 2013 #16
Thanks Gary. However I prefer to copy the title in the article not from link. alp227 Jun 2013 #17
I usually stick to GD. Firebrand Gary Jun 2013 #18
The exchange is a textbook example of how a bully operates. CBHagman Jun 2013 #6
That was a good read Babel_17 Jun 2013 #7
Why is "Historian" capitalized? onenote Jun 2013 #10
Due to strict DU enforcement of headline accuracy. Firebrand Gary Jun 2013 #15
I've always thought that Ornstein was more to the right than the center... Demoiselle Jun 2013 #11
Not really DFW Jun 2013 #13
COMING UP NOW: Norm Ornstein Responds To Mitch McConnell Drama deurbano Jun 2013 #12

alp227

(32,018 posts)
4. headline is wrong
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 03:25 PM
Jun 2013

should be

Mitch McConnell Spars With Norm Ornstein: 'You've Been Consistently Wrong On Almost Everything'

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
8. Yes, because there is an actual post of Senate Historian
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 03:52 PM
Jun 2013

and the current individual to hold that position is named Donald A. Ritchie.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
9. Right, and much better,
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 03:54 PM
Jun 2013

except, I guess, for those who want headlines to cause high blood pressure.

alp227

(32,018 posts)
17. Thanks Gary. However I prefer to copy the title in the article not from link.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:14 PM
Jun 2013

I think the HuffPo used "smears senate historian" to get the click-click-click traffic despite front page & article page not same title.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
18. I usually stick to GD.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:32 PM
Jun 2013

I typically do not post in LBN all that often, but I thought the story was important as Mcconell is up for reelection next year. Thank you for the explanation rather than straight criticism. I genuinely did not know.

CBHagman

(16,984 posts)
6. The exchange is a textbook example of how a bully operates.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 03:37 PM
Jun 2013

Before Ornstein could ask his question, McConnell just had to mock him before the audience -- who dutifully laughed.

By the way, some of the questions were humdingers -- references to the National Organization for Marriage, Star Wars and stun guns (but not all in the same question).

On edit: Link to the video of the event:

[url]http://www.aei.org/events/2013/06/21/washingtons-ongoing-assault-on-free-speech-an-address-by-senate-minority-leader-mitch-mcconnell/[/url]

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
7. That was a good read
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 03:44 PM
Jun 2013

Unlike a lot of articles, that seem like the author is getting paid by the word but has nothing of substance to say, the article at the link is good journalism.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
15. Due to strict DU enforcement of headline accuracy.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:03 PM
Jun 2013

The original headline was copied and pasted as it was written on the actual website.

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
11. I've always thought that Ornstein was more to the right than the center...
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 04:05 PM
Jun 2013

...Which, if true, makes McConnell even more of a silly shit fest. (Not that there's much room for growth there.)

DFW

(54,358 posts)
13. Not really
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 04:20 PM
Jun 2013

Norm is a personal friend, if not an especially close one.

But he is as about as centrist as you can possibly get. However, he despises gross intellectual stupidity, and so much of that is coming from the right these days, he seems like a flaming leftist in their eyes when he calls them on their bullshit. It's not Norm's fault that they are spewing out so much of it these days.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
12. COMING UP NOW: Norm Ornstein Responds To Mitch McConnell Drama
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 04:08 PM
Jun 2013
http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/norm-ornstein-responds-to-mitch-mcconnell-drama/51c49f6002a760295b000691

Norm Ornstein, a centrist political pundit who has apparently irked Mitch McConnell over the years, sits down with Ahmed to respond to all the drama.

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