Breaking News: State Department says told Western hemisphere nations Snowden is wanted on felony cha

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Source: REUTERS

Breaking News: State Department says told Western hemisphere nations Snowden is wanted on felony charges and shouldn't be allowed further international travel



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The above is a banner on the Reuters news site. No link or further information at present. "Western hemisphere nations"? That's casting a net, eh?

I'm waiting for the inevitable "Snowden now onboard flight to..." articles, followed by "State Department Clarifies: Snowden should not be allowed to board swift horse or vehicle of any sort."



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1. Pic of banner, FWIW:

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[Kolesar]

17. Hey hey. He's fucked

He's been used by the moles in the US security apparatus and now he is off and running, going nowhere that he wants to go.

[dipsydoodle]

2. Swift horse........

[99th_Monkey]

3. Just WHO do these uppity countries think they are anyway????

They act like they think they are "sovereign nations" or something
equally laughable.

Maintaining a properly respectful EMPIRE can be a bitch.

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6. Or, in DU speak: Department of Defense alerts on Snowden post. World jury lets it stand. nt

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[suffragette]

30. Duzy!

[bahrbearian]

31. LOL

[Catherina]

39. ! +1 n/t

[MrsBrady]

4. sombody should have warned him: "Don't tutch the but"

sorry, couldn't resist

I know, I know

[Thinkingabout]

5. Interesting turn of events for Snowden, went to Hong Kong under pretense of seeking

Medical treatment, Hong Kong did whatever necessary to dump his butt. Surprise surprise Russia would not let him stay, they don't play with their VISA program. Who will it be next, musical chairs for the criminal. Most probably is not interested in his lies. He could return to the US and face trial, sounding good yet?

[Harmony Blue]

7. You are serioulsy misinformed

re-consider what you posted.

[Thinkingabout]

9. What am i misinformed about, he said he was going to Hong Kong for treatment for his

Epilepsy. Russia did not allow him to stay. He could still return to the US and face trial. Where did you read wrong?

[wtmusic]

18. That's only what he told his bosses. He wanted some time off.

I'm sure the option of telling them he's going to expose all of the illegal shit they're doing was never seriously considered.

[Thinkingabout]

21. As I said he went to Hong Kong on false pretenses. He also lied in accepting his position with the

Code of Ethics and then got diarrhea of the mouth.

[wtmusic]

25. Would that come under "Felony Lying To Your Boss"?

And what does it say in the Code of Ethics about neglecting to get a warrant for wiretaps?

Hmm...must be in here somewhere...

[bahrbearian]

32. "Hey NAS I need some time of to go to Hong Kong to expose your sorry asses."

That should have been enough.

[PSPS]

33. You're wasting your time.

You're having your own "dining room table" moment. This is apology #13 on the list.

1. This is nothing new
2. I have nothing to hide
3. What are you, a freeper?
4. But Obama is better than Christie/Romney/Bush/Hitler
5. Greenwald/Flaherty/Gillum/Apuzzo/Braun is a hack
6. We have red light cameras, so this is no big deal
7. Corporations have my data anyway
8. At least Obama is trying
9. This is just the media trying to take Obama down
10. It's a misunderstanding/you are confused
11. You're a racist
12. Nobody cares about this anyway / "unfounded fears"
13. I don't like Snowden, therefore we must disregard all of this

[wtmusic]

34. I'm avoiding getting work done, is what I'm doing.

But it's somewhat entertaining.

[Thinkingabout]

40. The Code of Ethics in places like NSA explains divulging information you come in contact with during

The course of your employment can result in espionage. Snowden not only passed information but also copied files which is thief and is giving this information to whomever he chooses.

[wtmusic]

44. You feel this Code should be one's sole moral compass, do you?

Maybe you can get Snowden's job...they're looking for a good team player.

[Thinkingabout]

48. This is not the first person to work under a Code of Ethics and won't be the last. BTW, did Snowden

Get a warrant to gather the information he stole? He is probably putting your phone call records on the internet right now, guess this would make you happy. Talking about abuse of the Fourth Amendment, you now know the abuser, Edward Snowden.

[wtmusic]

51. I guess answering my question was too hard.

Want to give it another shot?

[Thinkingabout]

52. Perhaps I am blessed to be able to handle more than a sole compass so it can not be

My sole moral compass. I don't like a thief and Snowden has stolen information he should not have taken. I also have high integrity and know how to function in the workplace while observing a Code of Ethics. Is this enough information to answer your question?

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53. It specifically was intended to address a situation where two moral codes conflict.

Say you're in a company and you've signed an agreement that all security matters are handled internally. Under no circumstances are you to go to the police - you're to let company security handle the issue.

One night on the job you come across your supervisor raping a co-worker. You dutifully report the issue to security, and the officer gives you a wink and tells you to go back to work.

Do you contact the police?

[Thinkingabout]

54. Snowden was working for the National Security Administration which deals in security matters, the

Code of Ethics involves protecting the work performed and maintaining secrecy of records. In other words he was not to reveal information about the files, and he has stated he could wire tap anyone he wanted, he was not supposed to reveal to outside people the content of the conversation. This is not a hard item to understand. He was not supposed to steal files from within, in his case perhaps your phone call records and give that information to news media or people on the street.

I don't know about jobs where the example would be happening so that is something you have to determine how to deal with.

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55. It could be any job

and you're evading the question.

[JDPriestly]

46. And we who care about our Constitution and our democracy will be forever

grateful to Snowden for what he is done.

Frankly, if I were anyone wishing to have a life in the future, I would quite Facebook and Twitter right now and start reading foreign newspapers -- while we are still allowed to read them.

[Thinkingabout]

49. You should explain how mush you care about our Constitution to Snowden, he collected

Your phone call records without a warrant.

[primavera]

35. So this is a no-brainer as far as you're concerned?

No matter what someone with top secret clearance witnesses, under no circumstances may s/he divulge that information without committing treason? I've been wondering about this. I mean, you're right, the law is pretty clear that he was no permitted to disclose the information he disclosed. At the same time, if you have, without your consent, been made party to events that, in your heart of hearts, you reasonably believe to be illegal, do you not have some obligation to disclose them? I mean, say you witness US soldiers torturing and murdering some Iraqi civilian. Which duty is the higher one, the duty to not disclose classified information, or the duty to do something about the horrible crime you've just witnessed?

[still_one]

36. All I know is what worth is he to whatever country he ends up in? They will be furnishing his bills

whoever it is

[former9thward]

47. What a bunch of assumptions.

No evidence Hong Kong wanted him out. No evidence Russia "would not let him stay". He is not a criminal, he is a hero.

[Cleita]

8. Since the US is so well liked south of the Rio Grande, that's really going to

shake them up.

[Ash_F]

13. I'm sure even Canada chortled a bit. /nt

[Kolesar]

14. I'm sure that Canada would have never admitted the too-young-to-shave ... eom

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. Canada is a member of the five eyes

They were the only ones not to chortle over this

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. This morning I mentioned the Monroe Doctrine.

This is the subtext.

Correa is thinking this.



The only question remaining is are we going to go gun boat diplomacy on this?

It makes me wonder just how much of the Crown Jewell's Snowden took? (Reference to Church Comittee hearings)

[wandy]

10. Well one thing for sure. Snowden may have set the stage for the State Department to.......

make a fool out of themselves.
It's up to them to take it from there.

Any bets?

[Demeter]

50. You won't get any odds on a bet like that

we aren't rubes, you know.

[WhoWoodaKnew]

11. All this government spying crap pisses me off but...

pretty much every country in the world is gonna take drastic actions if they feel a citizen exposed national secrets. I'm not saying its right, I'm just saying that all of this is predictable.

[wtmusic]

19. and in response to the U.S.'s "drastic actions", the world says, "Yeah, whatever..."

[bossy22]

20. I agree

I'm not surprised by the U.S. government's reaction to this- in fact I'm not sure that he sure that what he did can be considered espionage. Running to china or russia though doesn't help his case.

IMHO i believe that there is much more to this whole issue than just a "patriotic whistle blower". I really wouldn't be surprised if some foreign government put a large sum into some swiss bank account for him before he released this information.

[wtmusic]

22. It's possible.

However, think about it...you have a cush job and a pretty girlfriend, living in an island paradise.

He's about to risk that for 30+ years in prison? There's absolutely no sum of money that would tempt me to take that risk.

He comes across as smart and principled. I think he's for real, and I wish him the best. He's got a real fight in front of him.

[goldent]

37. This is why Hong Kong let he leave

The excuse that the extradition papers were not complete, and so they had to let him leave the country, was a joke, but they had to say it. In reality, they just wanted the problem to go away.

[hack89]

12. I am sure there some countries stupid enough to grant him ayslum.

this is going to be entertaining as hell.

[goldent]

38. It is the ego of the countries leaders

which they put ahead of problems that granting asylum will cause.

[jsr]

15. Okay. The ruler of the planet has spoken.

LOL.

[blkmusclmachine]

16. Big Brother is not happy.

Not. Happy. At. All.

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. Cough, Bourne trilogy for real!!!!

Good god, the Monroe doctrine in action

[Swede Atlanta]

27. The U.S. is the horse's ass in the international community.....

I wish Mr. Snowden the very best in his search for a safe home. I doubt he will ever find true peace where he can go to bed at night and not wonder if some U.S. operative isn't going to kill him or snatch him up at night.

We know the U.S. not only practices torture but after GWB we LOVE it. It is terrific. It is godly. It is who we are.

Hopefully whichever country does, and they will, offer him asylum, will offer provide him with 24 x 7 safety protection.

Mr. Obama is not the first, nor will he be the last, in a series of despots in the American government. Bill Clinton was one, GWB was another.

Without a truly free press, meaning one not owned by corporate interests, the government will continue to tramp on the Constitution and otherwise enslave us.

Hey NSA, I hope you are jerking off to my post because I could care less what you think because you DON't. You aren't smart enough to wipe your behind after a BM.

[School Teacher]

28. Dept. of State is Already Making Laughable Comments

A State Dept. Spokesperson was on CNN this morning saying that Ecuador does not have freedom of the press. So to her it was ironic
that they were taking Snowden in. Funny that she assumed Americans would think WE have freedom of the press and other freedoms while the Snowden leaks amply prove that we do not.. Yes. Freedom of the press unless you are Mr. Hastings.

It will be amusing to watch our govt. deal with the fact that other nations are sovereign! They are not looking good! I am reminded of
the startled angry look on Hilary's face at the Arab Spring in Egypt. They just wouldn't behave, those pesky people.

[wtmusic]

29. Did she stamp her foot and pout?

In many ways this is long overdue.

Thanks for info.

[alp227]

41. Article is now available

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/23/us-usa-security-flight-idUSBRE95M02H20130623

[Daniel537]

42. Love seeing the embarrassment this is causing the US govt.

A nice well deserved FU is all they are going to get.

[Historic NY]

43. I heard North Korea was anxious for a visit.

[DeSwiss]

45. THE GRANFALLOON HAS SPOKEN!!!

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