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tpsbmam

(3,927 posts)
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 05:42 PM Jun 2013

REVEALED: The IRS Targeted Groups Containing 'Tea Party,' 'Progressive,' 'Occupy,' And 'Israel'

Source: Business Insider

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Internal Revenue Service's screening of groups seeking tax-exempt status was broader and lasted longer than has been previously disclosed, the new head of the agency said Monday.

An internal IRS document obtained by The Associated Press said that besides "tea party," lists used by screeners to pick groups for close examination also included the terms "Israel," ''Progressive" and "Occupy." The document said an investigation into why specific terms were included was still underway.

In a conference call with reporters, Danny Werfel said that after becoming acting IRS chief last month, he discovered wide-ranging and improper terms on the lists and said screeners were still using them. He did not specify what terms were on the lists, but said he suspended the use of all such lists immediately.

"There was a wide-ranging set of categories and cases that spanned a broad spectrum" on the lists, Werfel said. He added that his aides found those lists contained "inappropriate criteria that was in use."



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/irs-tea-party-targeting-report-danny-werfel-occupy-israel-progressive-2013-6#ixzz2XAkXlV87

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REVEALED: The IRS Targeted Groups Containing 'Tea Party,' 'Progressive,' 'Occupy,' And 'Israel' (Original Post) tpsbmam Jun 2013 OP
Of course this won't get the same play in the M$M, cause the initial uproar was "juicier".Rating$$$. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #1
It won't get any outrage here. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #4
The "Occupy" angle will get some play, in terms of mean old Obama picking on them nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #12
And yet we only heard about the tea party cases. NutmegYankee Jun 2013 #2
Who is doing the most cheating, and the most whining? Berlum Jun 2013 #3
Issa is having a hissy fit right now wordpix Jun 2013 #33
think progress article alp227 Jun 2013 #5
You wanna know why they were being checked? Its because many of them actually are political groups cstanleytech Jun 2013 #6
Exactly.... paleotn Jun 2013 #15
+1000, let's see Issa scream about the IRS preventing tax fraud across the board, I can't wait wordpix Jun 2013 #34
Well that pops Fux New's HUGH scandal......... Grassy Knoll Jun 2013 #7
you think that will stop them? NewJeffCT Jun 2013 #10
Did I miss a brilliant new term? Daemonaquila Jun 2013 #20
Yep, it really is. n/t TDale313 Jun 2013 #26
I think so, too wordpix Jun 2013 #35
Funny that ALL we heard about was "FASCIST OBAMA IRS IS HARRASSING OUR TEA PARTY!!" nt 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #8
But I thought he was a socialist.... paleotn Jun 2013 #13
I don't think the Tea Party brain is wired correctly 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #16
Wait, "brain?" Daemonaquila Jun 2013 #19
Game over tea party! obama2terms Jun 2013 #9
Waiting for the DUers who claimed "the federal government was using the IRS to harass geek tragedy Jun 2013 #11
I'm waiting for all the jabberwockys on Faux to eat their words. Boomerproud Jun 2013 #25
Quotation marks suggest you are quoting somebody. hay rick Jun 2013 #45
Eh, the search function will provide those. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #46
Any occupy group is going to be way less partisan than any Teaparty group. /nt Ash_F Jun 2013 #14
Maybe Occupy is more ethical and smarter LeftInTX Jun 2013 #21
First come first examined Luschnig Jun 2013 #17
Very important - let's spread this everywhere! Daemonaquila Jun 2013 #18
Serves the "Tea Party" interests to only tell half the truth... jimlup Jun 2013 #22
I'm not sure I'd call that "targetting". JoeyT Jun 2013 #23
But nobody else whines like a tea-bagger ThoughtCriminal Jun 2013 #24
Why didn't they say this from day one? rucky Jun 2013 #27
Well of course 'progressive', 'occupy' and 'Israel' were reasonable. Kablooie Jun 2013 #28
Kick n/t Tx4obama Jun 2013 #29
New York Times Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #30
That's terrible Lugal Zaggesi Jun 2013 #31
LOL. Doing a proper enforcement job has now been declared "targeting" by the corporate/state media PSPS Jun 2013 #32
Of course. That is why the only group denied tax exempt status was a progressive org. nt SunSeeker Jun 2013 #36
you wanna know something lcordero2 Jun 2013 #37
Seriously ... we're JUST hearing about this NOW ... BECAAAAAUSE?!? brett_jv Jun 2013 #38
The delay in the truth coming out is may be because the IRS Eric J in MN Jun 2013 #41
The story raises several issues. merrily Jun 2013 #39
It's not even a scandal if it wasn't based on viewpoint discrimination. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #42
BS Lugal Zaggesi Jun 2013 #44
On NPR this morning, the teaser for this story said, "IRS Targetting More Extreme" Eric J in MN Jun 2013 #40
Time to eliminate this 501(4)(c) section question everything Jun 2013 #43
From what I see, the story is that Issa commissioned a politically biased audit Thor_MN Jun 2013 #47

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
6. You wanna know why they were being checked? Its because many of them actually are political groups
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:08 PM
Jun 2013

trying to hide of the veil of being issues groups so they can hide who the money comes from.

paleotn

(17,881 posts)
15. Exactly....
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:33 PM
Jun 2013

...interesting that so many organizations who's names contain those words is primarily political in focus. Once again, it looks like the IRS was simply doing its job.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
34. +1000, let's see Issa scream about the IRS preventing tax fraud across the board, I can't wait
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:44 PM
Jun 2013

to hear what facts he'll twist next.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
10. you think that will stop them?
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:23 PM
Jun 2013

they'll just say that because there were more tea party groups that it still meant they were targeting conservatives.

paleotn

(17,881 posts)
13. But I thought he was a socialist....
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:27 PM
Jun 2013

...or even a communist. I wish they'd get their pejoratives straight.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
16. I don't think the Tea Party brain is wired correctly
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:35 PM
Jun 2013

so as to pick up any distinction between commie, fascist or socialist.

They all bad, ... very very bad.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
11. Waiting for the DUers who claimed "the federal government was using the IRS to harass
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:25 PM
Jun 2013

and intimidate political opponents of the President" to publicly eat their words.

LeftInTX

(25,126 posts)
21. Maybe Occupy is more ethical and smarter
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:47 PM
Jun 2013

I often wondered why Occupy didn't sponsor political candidates like the Tea Party. Maybe it is because Occupy is trying to work within the rules and maintain themselves as an advocacy group while the Tea Party is trying to skirt (aka break) the rules.

 

Luschnig

(32 posts)
17. First come first examined
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:39 PM
Jun 2013

I understand this list was an attempt at triage but if people object to this then method then it should be first come first serve and everyone back in line have to wait until earlier requests are fully examined.

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
18. Very important - let's spread this everywhere!
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:44 PM
Jun 2013

Not only does it show that the GOP butthurt is all a political ploy, but it's incontrovertible proof that Darrel Issa is a liar and a political hack. If they want to impeach someone, impeach Issa for lying to his committee, congress, and the American people.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
22. Serves the "Tea Party" interests to only tell half the truth...
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 07:17 PM
Jun 2013

That's how they've been making a living. Only telling the "facts" as and when the choose. Make no mistake. These "Tea Party" folks are the useful idiots of many factions in our society.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
23. I'm not sure I'd call that "targetting".
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 07:21 PM
Jun 2013

It sounds like exactly the sort of groups that shouldn't be applying for that kind of tax exempt status...You know, political ones. So it was more like a case of them just doing their job.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,046 posts)
24. But nobody else whines like a tea-bagger
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 07:40 PM
Jun 2013

They had to fill out extra forms and answer hard questions. Questions with words they had to look up.

rucky

(35,211 posts)
27. Why didn't they say this from day one?
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:11 PM
Jun 2013

instead of apologizing.

Now it sounds like BS, even though it's true.

Kablooie

(18,610 posts)
28. Well of course 'progressive', 'occupy' and 'Israel' were reasonable.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:30 PM
Jun 2013

But 'TEA PARTY'!! No way! It's unAmerican!
They should all be sent to prison!!!!

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
30. New York Times
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:16 PM
Jun 2013

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — The instructions that Internal Revenue Service officials used to look for applicants seeking tax-exempt status with “Tea Party” and “Patriots” in their titles also included groups whose names included the words “Progressive” and “Occupy,” according to I.R.S. documents released Monday.

The documents appeared to back up contentions by I.R.S. officials and some Democrats that the agency did not intend to single out conservative groups for special scrutiny. Instead, the documents say, officials were trying to use “key word” shortcuts to find overtly political organizations — both liberal and conservative — that were after tax favors by saying they were social welfare organizations.

But the practice appeared to go much farther than that. One such “be on the lookout” list included medical marijuana groups, organizations that were promoting President Obama’s health care law, and applications that dealt “with disputed territories in the Middle East.”

Taken together, the documents seem to change the terms of a scandal that exploded over accusations that the I.R.S. had tried to stifle a nascent conservative political movement. Instead, the dispute now revolves around questionable sorting tactics used by I.R.S. application screeners.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/25/us/politics/documents-show-liberals-in-irs-dragnet.html?_r=0

 

Lugal Zaggesi

(366 posts)
31. That's terrible
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:34 PM
Jun 2013

Using names that imply the group will try to affect elections,
to look more closely at groups applying for special tax breaks because they are promising not to spend the majority of their money on affecting elections ?

These groups deserve the same neglect from vastly overworked and understaffed IRS groups as all the other groups trying to get special tax breaks and anonymous donor privileges. If the IRS only has the staff and resources to investigate 1 out of 50 applications, everyone should get the same 49/50 chance of pulling a fast one.

What's next - choosing people for extra screening at airport security NOT based on a random roll of the dice ?
Why should that nice 29 year old Muslim man student visiting from Pakistan get more scrutiny than a white grandmother from Peoria, Illinois?

PSPS

(13,579 posts)
32. LOL. Doing a proper enforcement job has now been declared "targeting" by the corporate/state media
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:39 PM
Jun 2013

What next?

Police TARGETED crooks
Firemen TARGETED fires

I would like to think the IRS should be scrutinizing any application for tax-exempt status, especially with this 501c4 charade. The fact that every politician in Washington, regardless of party, feels compelled to dump on the IRS for simply doing its job makes me think that, to them, it's a necessary and desired money laundering scheme they all rely on for their vigorish. They apparently expect the IRS to just rubber stamp every application that comes along.

lcordero2

(848 posts)
37. you wanna know something
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:42 AM
Jun 2013

Up to a point I can't really even begin to understand how tax exempt status can be given out.

With tax exempt status somebody is getting the benefit of representation without getting taxed.
This should even be happening unless it is a true charity organization.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
38. Seriously ... we're JUST hearing about this NOW ... BECAAAAAUSE?!?
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 04:17 AM
Jun 2013

Now that the entire world has heard (from some news outlet or another) roughly 100 times by now that "ZOMG the IRS was targetting the Tea Party!!111!!!'

NOW ... we finally get the actual TRUTH?

This is a MAJOR WTF right here. Assuming this story is true, then the way this whole thing went down absolutely STINKS to high heaven.

Especially pissed about the way the WaPo handled this friggin' story. Faux, I expect the coverage THEY have given it, along w/Issa. BUt the NYT and WaPo have done every bit as much of an irresponsible hatchet job if you ask me.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
41. The delay in the truth coming out is may be because the IRS
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 08:29 AM
Jun 2013

...was afraid of violating privacy laws by releasing this information.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
39. The story raises several issues.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 07:14 AM
Jun 2013

One, the IRS was using improper criteria. It does not matter if it was using improper criteria for both the right and left. The criteria were improper.

Not for profit organization are allowed to educate the public about political issues.



501(c)(4) organizations may inform the public on controversial subjects and attempt to influence legislation relevant to its program[38] and, unlike 501(c)(3) organizations, they may also participate in political campaigns and elections, as long as its primary activity is the promotion of social welfare.[39] The tax exemption for 501(c)(4) organizations applies to most of their operations, but contributions may be subject to gift tax, and income spent on political activities - generally the advocacy of a particular candidate in an election - is taxable.[40] An "action" organization generally qualifies as a 501(c)(4) organization.[41] An "action" organization is one whose activities substantially include, or are exclusively,[42] direct lobbying or grass roots lobbying related to advocacy for or against legislation or proposing, supporting, or opposing legislation that is related to its purpose.[43] A 501(c)(4) organization may directly or indirectly support or oppose a candidate for public office as long as such activities are not a substantial amount of its activities.[32][44]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501%28c%29_organization#501.28c.29.284.29

Two, Congress was lied to on more than one occasion when it tried to perform its oversight function.

Three, the WH gave the public the impression that the Acting Head of the IRS had been required to resign over this, when in fact, his so called resignation was to be effective on the date he was already set to retire.

Four, despite all the brouhaha, the IRS continued to use improper criteria until two weeks ago.

But, that all gets lost over whether the IRS treated the left as unlawfully as it treated the right.

Very discouraging.
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
42. It's not even a scandal if it wasn't based on viewpoint discrimination.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 09:51 AM
Jun 2013

Improper bureaucratic procedures, maybe. But it's not being driven by an impermissible political agenda, ergo no real scandal of note.

 

Lugal Zaggesi

(366 posts)
44. BS
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 12:04 PM
Jun 2013

EVERY organization applying for this special tax break is supposed to be investigated.

The fact that the IRS isn't given enough resources to do what the law requires after the Supreme Court decision opened the floodgates, and therefore has to come up with some way to select a subset of applications to actually get to,

only shows how dysfunctional Congressional funding is.
The same dysfunctional funding that led to the SEC not finding out about Bernie Madoff.

Whining about who they actually got around to investigating - rather than why aren't ALL applicants investigated - is missing the point.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
40. On NPR this morning, the teaser for this story said, "IRS Targetting More Extreme"
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 08:28 AM
Jun 2013

...Than Previously Thought," since the IRS used more search terms.

The teaser didn't say what the terms were, and so a listener was given the impression that it was other terms used by conservative groups.

Not "Progressive" and "Occupy."

Anyway, the IRS should be on the lookout for groups using political terms seeking tax-exempt status which political groups can't legally get.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
47. From what I see, the story is that Issa commissioned a politically biased audit
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 10:06 PM
Jun 2013

The reason that "progressive" was not mention in the IRS Inspector General's report is that Issa asked them to look at targeting of Tea Baggers. They took a very literal approach and ignored everything else.

So the actual political bias in this was created by none other than Issa.

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