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Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:17 AM Jun 2013

Nanny cam shows intruder beating NJ woman near kid

Source: NBC News

A hulking robber forced his way into a home and attacked a woman watching cartoons with her 3-year-old daughter, punching and kicking her in a series of assaults recorded by a home surveillance camera before throwing her down the basement stairs and nonchalantly walking out the front door, police said.

Portions of the nanny cam footage were aired on television Tuesday as police sought the public's help in identifying the man responsible for the attack, which occurred Friday morning in Millburn, a suburb of about 20,000 residents just west of New York.

Police Capt. Michael Palardy said he was revolted by what he saw the man do to the woman on the video.

"There was no reason for him to touch her at all because she would have willingly gave him what he wanted," Palardy said. "I've probably gone through this video 20 times, and it still sickens me every time I see it. He had no regard for her life. He didn't care if she lived or died."



Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/52313214/ns/us_news/t/nanny-cam-shows-intruder-beating-nj-woman-near-kid/

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Nanny cam shows intruder beating NJ woman near kid (Original Post) Bacchus4.0 Jun 2013 OP
This was in the news JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #1
I read the whole article, about ready to cry. Fuck that's disgusting. Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #2
In the past these sorts of criminals got short sentences when convicted Tumbulu Jun 2013 #3
I am guessing this animal has already done time as well n/t Bacchus4.0 Jun 2013 #5
"Not enough jail cells in California"? red dog 1 Jun 2013 #11
Well, if they only did this, then perhaps there would be room Tumbulu Jun 2013 #20
I never said the CA prisons "are full of peaceful drug addicts" red dog 1 Jun 2013 #21
They don't even put the violent ones back in prison Tumbulu Jun 2013 #23
Millburn is an excellent neighborhood ... this is stunning srican69 Jun 2013 #4
Yes, it is. Beacool Jun 2013 #25
I do NOT understand how someone can do this as a random act. nolabear Jun 2013 #6
Almost like a lawmaker sending kids off to war. Just as violent and senseless and cruel. nt valerief Jun 2013 #7
No, a lawmaker talks him (or her) self into believing it's for a reason. nolabear Jun 2013 #8
Nah, the lawmaker is thinking about how many $$$$ s/he's making from the war. nt valerief Jun 2013 #14
I don't think so. Depends on the lawmaker but even Cheney I think tells himself it's for a reason. nolabear Jun 2013 #15
Cheney's reason is ALWAYS money. Creatures like him have a sickness for money. valerief Jun 2013 #16
And you don't think they're telling themselves a lie about that? nolabear Jun 2013 #17
I think you're giving most lawmakers too much credit. They live in a different world. valerief Jun 2013 #19
LOL! Not to me, but I swear they think they're preserving something and protecting something. nolabear Jun 2013 #22
Tomato, Tomata ForeignandDomestic Jun 2013 #28
Or supporting NSA spying Ter Jun 2013 #29
Very disturbing. Arugula Latte Jun 2013 #9
You have to wonder if he knew her or was hired to do this. MrSlayer Jun 2013 #10
I've been thinking that way too. complain jane Jun 2013 #12
It is exactly the sort of thing that randomly happens. bitchkitty Jun 2013 #24
This is local news for me. Beacool Jun 2013 #26
Agreed on that count. MrSlayer Jun 2013 #27
incorrect wingzeroday Jun 2013 #32
Human can totally lack empathy. Sand Wind Jun 2013 #13
Inhuman. Pterodactyl Jun 2013 #18
Who really forgot "Cop beats female bartender, gets no jail time. Causes Outrage!" Judi Lynn Jun 2013 #30
My local news just announced that the guy was arrested in NYC. Beacool Jun 2013 #31

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
2. I read the whole article, about ready to cry. Fuck that's disgusting.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:37 AM
Jun 2013

I can't believe I live in a world where shit like this happens, and I have a kid. I just can't believe it. I can't believe human beings come in a flavor of that.

When they hopefully catch this fuck, I hope they put him away for fucking ever.

PB

Tumbulu

(6,267 posts)
3. In the past these sorts of criminals got short sentences when convicted
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:48 AM
Jun 2013

and this is just wrong. I want life sentences for these sorts of violent offenses.

The sentencing for assaults is very minimal in my opinion.

I rented an apartment where a man had broken in and attempted to rape my roommate. The police knew who the guy was, he had just been released from serving a 3 yr sentence from breaking into an elderly woman's apartment, beating and raping her. She was only left paralysed and thus the sentencing was for a few years of prison! ONLY paralyzed??????? And they could not arrest him on fingerprints for some reason. We were supposed to stay and call them when he came back again.

We left the apartment lickity split, but I remember how frustrating it was for the police and for us.

Fast forward 30 years....I hear of a young college student who has had to flee her apartment as a creep had attempted to break and enter her apartment and they cannot do anything about it unless they catch him in the act...she needed to move fast....not enough jail cells in California, that's what the local sheriffs always say.

We need much stiffer sentences for people who attack others unprovoked, regardless of if the attack is fatal.



red dog 1

(27,648 posts)
11. "Not enough jail cells in California"?
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 04:38 PM
Jun 2013

There would be plenty of empty jail cells in California if the non-violent drug offenders, and other non-violent offenders were transfered to half-way houses, given drug treatment, job training, and then helped to find jobs, so they could pay taxes and get a chance to straighten out their lives.....If they don't follow the half-way house rules, or refuse to work, they can then be sent back to prison to serve out the rest of their sentence.

Non-violent drug offenders make up more than 70 percent of the California prison population

Mark Klaas, President of the Klaas Foundation For Kids has stated:
"Study after study has shown that money spent on treatment and prevention reaps several times as much crime-control as money spent on incarceration for nonviolent offenders."

See "California Imprisons the Non-Violent" (Enter into search-bar at top left of main page)
http://www.progress.org/

Tumbulu

(6,267 posts)
20. Well, if they only did this, then perhaps there would be room
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:27 PM
Jun 2013

In the meantime all these violent criminals are released. And we all suffer. There are so many violent sex offenders loose, and so few cells that those who take their GPS bracelets off get not even a slap on thew wrist over it.

The police culture somehow thinks that it is OK to beat and rape women, one must conclude.

How is it that they are always released so soon, always they say that there are not enough cells available. And I have known quite a few drug offenders who are not prosecuted for the same reason. They don't have enough cells.

My understanding is that they only prosecute for drug offenses when they don't have enough evidence on hand for the violent acts the person is being jailed for. I don't buy it that the prisons are full of peaceful drug addicts.

We have a very violent culture and people are in jail for very good reason. They need to be kept in there a lot longer when they have committed a violent act such as this.

red dog 1

(27,648 posts)
21. I never said the CA prisons "are full of peaceful drug addicts"
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:58 PM
Jun 2013

I said they are full of non-violent drug offenders....which is not the same as "peaceful drug addicts"

Many of the non-violent drug offenders are drug dealers ...Some were caught multiple times for dealing drugs, not just using....but they still are non-violent, and they can be moved to drug treatment facilities, half-way houses etc, with ankle bracelets, and if they fuck up in any way,
they can be sent back to prison to serve out their sentence, something they will NOT want to have to do.

Tumbulu

(6,267 posts)
23. They don't even put the violent ones back in prison
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:19 AM
Jun 2013

for disabling the ankle bracelets. It is pathetic. There are not enough cells here. That is the problem.

I would far prefer helping people change and get better. But the society has to have employment opportunities, we need decent public transportation, living wages, oh my so much. But in the meantime, I want violent offenders to stay in prison far longer.

Beacool

(30,244 posts)
25. Yes, it is.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:17 PM
Jun 2013

But even where I live there have been to push in cases and that was never heard of. These bastards are getting more brazen by the day. It was very disturbing to see that video. She's a wisp of a thing and the guy kept hitting and kicking her. I hope that they find him before he hurts anyone else.

nolabear

(41,915 posts)
6. I do NOT understand how someone can do this as a random act.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 12:41 PM
Jun 2013

It defies logic. I know there are all kinds of levels of insanity out there but really there is usually some kind of logic at work...high, vengeful, delusional, for an unrelated reason (gang initiation, stealing a specific thing, whatever the fantasy can be) etc. To walk into an inhabited house, attack a woman and leave her as a witness, etc. when it is so much less dangerous to go into an uninhabited house is just strange. Arrogance run amok? Got me. But it is bizarre.

nolabear

(41,915 posts)
8. No, a lawmaker talks him (or her) self into believing it's for a reason.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 03:56 PM
Jun 2013

In MY mind it's violent and senseless and cruel, but the lawmaker isn't thinking that. I can imagine what lawmakers might think. If he hadn't been a robber or had gotten into some interaction on the street or had been intent on rape or whatever, senselessness and cruelty notwithstanding, I could somehow wrap my head around it and say "He's mean, he's crazy, etc." I'm not saying this isn't how it happened; it clearly is. I'm just shaking my head over the lack of any kind of sense.

nolabear

(41,915 posts)
15. I don't think so. Depends on the lawmaker but even Cheney I think tells himself it's for a reason.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:28 PM
Jun 2013

There are very few people who will rub their hands together and say "Let's get a few thousand people killed so I can make some serious money!" More likely they will say "Look at all the people I'm employing, freeing, all the oil I'm securing for the good of the country, and if I make money well I'm just a shrewd businessman. Someone would be doing it anyway."

Doesn't make it any less egregious. But denial is a helluva thing.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
16. Cheney's reason is ALWAYS money. Creatures like him have a sickness for money.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:31 PM
Jun 2013

They don't care about the good of the country in any way, shape, or form. They can afford to leave it.

nolabear

(41,915 posts)
17. And you don't think they're telling themselves a lie about that?
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:39 PM
Jun 2013

I completely agree with you about the heartlessness, but in my experience people rationalize the hell out of some incredibly heartless acts. I have never talked to anyone who has done something brutal and greedy and horrible who hasn't rationalized it in some way. Never. THeir rationalization makes no sense to me, and I recognize it as a horrendous act, but they always say "They did so-and-so and no one does that to me," or "I was hurt in such-and-such way and I can't help it" or "It's for the greater good" or "I got them before they got me" and they do in fact believe that their reasons are good ones.

That's why the beating of that woman makes so little sense to me. I feel as if I don't know something that must have been going on in that man's mind to make him do something that was so troublesome to him. He's so likely to get caught. He didn't make some huge score. His brutality made no sense, unless he's absolutely a delusional and psychopathic person. But then why leave her alive? It's just an observation about a horrific event. I hope they catch him and, as my grandmother used to say, put him under the jail.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
19. I think you're giving most lawmakers too much credit. They live in a different world.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:52 PM
Jun 2013

As for that brute in the story, it's probably drugs. Yeah, the beating made no sense. So much in this world makes no sense. I mean, take teabaggers, for instance. What sense do they make? They're just parrots of slogans paid for by the 1% and delivered via the media and pulpit. Teabaggers would cut off their nose to spite their face. They make no sense whatsover.

nolabear

(41,915 posts)
22. LOL! Not to me, but I swear they think they're preserving something and protecting something.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:30 PM
Jun 2013

About the lawmakers, well, some perhaps. But that's a WAY different world. I do like that Ned Beatty speech in Network, and there might be some that just think that way. But it's not the norm, as ragtag as the norm may be.

 

ForeignandDomestic

(190 posts)
28. Tomato, Tomata
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:50 PM
Jun 2013

You don't think this criminal scumbag isn't rationalizing his actions in some way as well... Someone can selfishly rationalize anything that doesn't make it any less wrong politician or not.

When people lose remorse for their fellow man and selfish greed takes over the spirit and what they want take precedent over all things including precious life itself, the very worst of human nature will come out, albeit government or any other form of society; and acts of barbarism become justified in their minds.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
9. Very disturbing.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 04:10 PM
Jun 2013

Also, in the picture it looks like the guy doesn't have an ear, but I guess that is just the poor quality of the photo.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
10. You have to wonder if he knew her or was hired to do this.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 04:34 PM
Jun 2013

This is not the sort of thing that just randomly happens.

complain jane

(4,302 posts)
12. I've been thinking that way too.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:31 PM
Jun 2013

And the husband allegedly just got that nanny cam set up and working a few days earlier... then this takes place, right in front of the nanny cam the whole time? If I really bust out the big tin foil hat, looks possible that somebody hired him to do this and then sold him out via that nanny cam. To prove it wasn't the person who did the hiring...

bitchkitty

(7,349 posts)
24. It is exactly the sort of thing that randomly happens.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:20 AM
Jun 2013

I was attacked by a stranger at age 27. It happens.

Beacool

(30,244 posts)
26. This is local news for me.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:20 PM
Jun 2013

They were saying that there was no car in the driveway and the curtains were drawn. They think that the guy thought that no one was home and was surprised to find the woman there.

Either way, he's a dangerous creep and I hope that they find him soon.

Beacool

(30,244 posts)
31. My local news just announced that the guy was arrested in NYC.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 06:28 PM
Jun 2013

Great, he needed to be caught before he hurt anyone else.

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