BREAKING: From Gov. Perry -- Special Session of the Texas Legislature will begin at 2 p.m. Jul 1st

[rdking647]

Source: Kvue news in Austin

Governor Perry has called another special session of the texas legislature to begin Juli 1


Read more: http://www.kvue.com/news/Gov-Perry-announces-second-special-session-213205541.html

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not a surprise

[Gore1FL]

1. The Democrats should leave the state that day. n/t

[still_one]

2. Do you think he will try for succession again? This guy really has to go

[femmocrat]

5. No... he probably wants to complete the vote on the anti-abortion bill.

They had to quit at midnight last night.

[aquart]

25. If he wants secession I would be happy to withdraw all federal funding.

But I suspect his own side would shoot to kill first.

[Laurian]

3. Asshole. He won't quit til he gets all

the anti-woman measures he wants. These people make me sick.

[ck4829]

4. Wombs to control!

[El Supremo]

15. I love this picture from last night:

[tanyev]

19. LOL! That's brilliant.

[tomm2thumbs]

41. kudos to them thumbing their own flag in the face of the idiots

great!

[KamaAina]

6. He can go to hell

and the Killer D's can go to Ardmore, Okla.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023103103

By the way, doesn't Goodhair need some sort of excuse to call a special session, beyond "I didn't get my pony"?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

9. But isn't this dangerous? Texas Republicans dominate the state legislature. It's not like it was

back when Democrats fled the state and were forced to return because the Republicans couldn't do anything with them.

Now that the Republicans dominate the legislature, they don't need the Democrats. They can act and pass all these anti-abortion bills without the Democrats.

The Democrats need to stay and filibuster these bills.

[rdking647]

12. the bills are going to pass

theres not much doubt about it based on how the legislature runs. part of teh reason the bill was blocked this time was becasue of how long they waitied to start with the bill. this time a fillibuster wont work.
this will pass. and then will be tossed out in court
all the GOP is doing is wasting more taxpayer money.

but they have already woken up women across the state

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

16. That's true, You're right. Not even a filibuster can stop it because the Republicans dominate the

legislature. Hadn't thought about that.

[CTyankee]

84. Even so, the bill will be challenged immediately in federal court.

So nothing can happen until the matter is resolved in that challenge.

In the meantime, we'll have plenty of angry Texas citizens at the state house in full cry. The whole world will be watching...

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

85. I hope so. I have relatives there and they are fired up and mad as hell over this.

[onenote]

13. They still need a quorum

I'm not exactly certain of the numbers but I think that the Democrats have a Catch 22 problem. If they all stay away there arguably would be no quorum, but there would be no one to raise the lack of a quorum. If one stays behind to raise the quorum issue, I think there is a quorum.

[rdking647]

17. they need 2/3 the the members for a quorum

i believe they can block a quorum and i dont think they need someone left behind to raise the issue

[CreekDog]

32. yes, they need 2/3rds for a quorum and they have the same # of dems now as then

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

18. A quorum is 1/2 majority of the members, plus 1, right? If so, the Republicans have that.

Thanks to redistricting, the Republicans now dominate the legislature in numbers. They have enough members and therefore can act without Democrats.

[rdking647]

20. according to the texas constitution its 2/3

Sec. 10. QUORUM; ADJOURNMENTS FROM DAY TO DAY; COMPELLING ATTENDANCE. Two-thirds of each House shall constitute a quorum to do business, but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and compel the attendance of absent members, in such manner and under such penalties as each House may provide.


the big think is i dont think there would be anything to stop perry and his asshole buddies from calling special sesison after special session

[CreekDog]

30. Why do you keep saying that? The Senate makeup is the SAME now as it was in 2003

But you keep saying it's different now, it's not even a single seat different!

Get it right, please.

[d_r]

38. I think

3 democrats voted for the bill

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

46. Relax and calm down! I was looking for clarification.

Your rudeness is unnecessary!

[CreekDog]

52. no you didn't ask for clairification while telling us wrongly that quorum is 1/2 the members

when it's 2/3rds the membership.

it's okay to make mistakes, we all make them, but when you were corrected, multiple times here, your response has been to tell us that we were wrong, we don't understand or silence.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

56. Someone had already clarified for me earlier

You're so quick to jump down my throat before you followed the flow of these thread. I have no problem admitting to mistakes when I make them. However, I don't need your help or your attitude. You really need some help with that because it truly stinks!

Welcome to ignore.

[CreekDog]

59. Yes, please lecture me on my attitude

Liberal_Stalwart71 (14,320 posts)
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....ahhh, there you go!

Oh, and welcome to IGNORE!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3104023

Ironically enough, I agree with the post I just quoted.

[BlueToTheBone]

62. wow.

[CreekDog]

67. that's gotta be some sort of record

a skipping one.

[BlueToTheBone]

68. You must be having a very bad day.

Your posts become more acerbic as the day wore on. Hope you're better tomorrow. It must feel bad to be so unkind to other members of the board.

[Gore1FL]

26. Need a Quorum.

Twelve seats are Democrats.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

48. Thanks for the clarification. I appreciate the explanation

without the nastiness.

[CreekDog]

28. The Texas Senate has the same party numbers as in 2003 when the Dems went to Oklahoma

19 Republicans, 12 Democrats. The absence of 11, now as then, can deny quorum, which is 2/3rds of the Senate.

for 2003 see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventy-eighth_Texas_Legislature

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Eleven

current Texas Senate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Legislature

I don't understand why you are so bold in saying something so completely wrong.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

49. I'm not making a statement of fact. I'm seeking clarification!!

Geez Louise!! Calm the fuck down!!

[CreekDog]

34. There is no difference between now and them, Republicans have the same number of seats

...now as they did then.

As often as you keep getting it completely wrong, I think it's important that it be corrected.

Please look up stuff like this so that you don't mislead people as you are doing in this thread.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

50. What's your fucking problem? I made 1 statement

seeking clarification. Take a Valium!!

[still_one]

40. The idiot republicans in Texas may consider these victories, however, they are actually writing

Their epitaph. The women of Texas are not going to forget the war waged against them by these republicans.

Mississippi tried to do something similar, and it was soundly defeated at the polls. Now Texas is going in the back door behind the people to pass this. Not only will it be challenged in the courts, but, waste a lot of time and money that Texas cannot afford to waste on unConstitutional issues.

This is like free advertising for the Democrats, what the nutcase republicans have become.

I guess they did not learn from 2012.

Like the story of the mule who would not move, the guy took a two by four and hit the mule. A passerby asked, why did you do that?

The response was you need to get the mules attention first.

The mule in this case is the Republican Party, and they are not paying attention

Please Rick perry, please run in 2016, please, please, please, and run on the war against women, and your racist sign that was on your property

[Bandit]

81. I believe a quorum is needed no matter who is in the majority

Not sure what that quorum might be or if enough Republicans are in office to fill it on their own but I find that unlikely...I think democrats could miss a day or two and deny a quorum but this is a 30 day special session. I think the ONLY thing that might make a difference is if thousand and thousands of people show up to protest this. I mean many many thousands of people... Let them know and people all across the nation that that the people are fed up with this fascist form of governing....I could only wish that people from all around the nation could take some time and show up in Texas to make their voices heard...

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

82. I posted below that Wendy Davis was on one of the shows last night, and she explained that for a

Special Session, a quorum is considered a simple majority (50 plus 1), not the 2/3 traditionally required.

[MrBig]

35. Not that easy

Although Democrats control 12 seats in the Senate, at least one of those "D"s, Eddie Lucio, Jr., supports the abortion bill. I doubt he would be willing to go along with any Killer D tactics.

[KamaAina]

37. Eurghh.

Did you know? "Lucio" rhymes with "sucio", the Spanish word for "filthy".

[MrBig]

43. What's interesting...

Lucio actually could have voted with Republicans to bring the bill to a vote on Monday, which would have forced a 24+ hour filibuster, but voted on a procedural issue with Democrats to not permit the bill to be brought to the floor until Tuesday so that Sen. Van de Putte (she of the great line from last night) could attend and not miss it due to her father's funeral.

http://www.texastribune.org/2013/06/26/dems-approach-abortion-victory-special-session-wan/

See the 4:29pm stamp halfway down the page.

I think Lucio knew the bill was going to end up passing at some point anyways and did this to try and remain in the Democrats good graces (even though everyone in Texas has known him to be a DINO for some time now).

[meow2u3]

44. Texas Dems are better off in New Mexico

OK is ruby red and the teabaggers would extradite the Dems to TX. Or, at least, I wouldn't put it past them.

[ancianita]

55. Yes, you're absolutely right. New Mexico is the place to go.

Their legislature is entirely Democratic, so Las Cruces is as welcoming a town as any.

[Mr. David]

57. Colorado offers asylum.

True blue states, and we're continuing to remove Republicans in a rapid pace.

Many endangered Republicans are going to be gone in '14.

[winter is coming]

73. Also, legalized weed.

[caseymoz]

79. That'll give the D-TX legislators something to do. nt

[DemoTex]

7. What will this co$t the state of Texa$?

I guess price is no object when it comes to the War on Women.

[TexasTowelie]

47. A 30 day special session costs about $1.2 million.

It's possible that enough House members could hold out if the Senate doesn't go along.

[idwiyo]

8. FFS.

[rdking647]

10. the special session will adress 3 issues

Legislation relating to the regulation of abortion procedures, providers and facilities.
Legislation relating to the funding of transportation infrastructure projects.
Legislation relating to establishing a mandatory sentence of life with parole for a capital felony committed by a 17-year-old offender.

[reflection]

11. God what an asshole he is.

I thoroughly enjoyed it when he forgot which federal agency he was going to do away with during the republican debates. Dumb bastard.

[Moostache]

63. That was good, but the syrup incident was outstanding!

I do not know if he was high, drunk, tripping on hallucinogens or all three, but when he was mugging for the cameras with the Syrup bottle in Vermont I almost peed myself watching it because I knew right then there was no way he could sustain a candidacy.

If his evil acts did not harm so many it would be comical.

[reflection]

64. I'm ashamed to say

I don't know what you're talking about. Off to look it up...

On edit:

That dude was on opiates. Had to be.

[awoke_in_2003]

80. That was the funniest thing I have ever...

seen a candidate do. He was definitely under the influence of something that day.

[chillfactor]

14. right no surprise there....

Gov. Goodhair will cost the taxpayers thousands of dollars so he can try and get his way.....he behaves like a two-year old having a temper-tantrum

[Gothmog]

33. The cost of the special session is only one element of the cost

These bills will be challenged in court and Greg Abbott is going to have to hire outside counsel again. The State of Texas wasted a great deal of money fighting the redistricting mess and now will be defending one or more lawsuits on voter id in addition to the redistricting lawsuit.

[still_one]

42. That is why the people of Texas need to vote these thugs out

[okaawhatever]

21. Oh, and so quickly so that a heavy opposition presence can't be formed. While this

individual issue may not be saved in this special session. Public awareness can help spread information about the bigger picture and neo-con hijacking of democracy. Good lord, British websites had a live feed last night and almost two hundred thousand watchers. C'mon folks. This is our opportunity to plant the seed. Facebook, twitter, op-eds in the local paper. This isn't even about abortion rights necessarily. It's about a governor who is trying to advance a personal theocrat agenda by abusing rules of law. He is wasting the time and money of his state. One of the laws they're trying to pass says that on Plan B type pills, an old protocol that uses 3x the amount of medication necessary will be required by law. It does not matter what the recommendations of the AMA or your doctor are.
Let's make sure all the issues are covered. Those who aren't sympathetic to the abortion rights issue need to be awakened to the bigger picture.

[iandhr]

22. Can we use the same delay tactics?

Lining up hundreds of people to testify?

[Gothmog]

31. Yes

The citizen filibuster was very effective.

[Coyotl]

23. The world will be watching this time. No more FELONIES please.

[PatrynXX]

24. lets see how much money he can waste in 4 months

Frankly someone should bring charges first for the cheating scandal .... Changing the times is rather illegal. so should negate this whole thing but hey if someone else wants to stand 13 hours, should be able to avoid the so called mistakes Wendy made. (did didn't) hell Rand Paul cheated nine ways from hell on his fake Filibuster . and he ended up going against himself later on. At least Wendy stood up for what she means

[KansDem]

27. Perry can't do it any earlier. He has to execute someone first...

Texas set to execute 500th death-row inmate

[Gothmog]

29. Time for another Citizen Filibuster

I bet that we can get over 700 people to sign up for each of the Senate and House hearing on these bills and keep things bottled up for a long time

[TexasTowelie]

51. I doubt that it would work though.

Expect him to put the transportation bill on the agenda first since that is the most essential bill. The death penalty bill isn't that a huge an issue. The abortion bill will be introduced after the transporation bill.

I doubt that if there were a million people at the Capitol if a protest would work. We know that the Republicans will cut off debate regardless how many people wait to testify.

The only way to stop the governor from his hellbent maneuvers will to keep him from having a quorum ever. This might mean that Texas will have to put up with the sorry transportation infrastructure in a move to coerce the Democrats to meet and declare them as obstructionists if they fail to do so.

[jeff47]

65. They won't be able to deny a quorum

They need every Democrat in the Senate to go along with that, and one Democrat supports the abortion bill.

[CreekDog]

69. No. There are 12 Democrats; 11 can deny a quorum.

The Texas Constitution calls for the 32-member Texas Senate — 31 Senators and the Lt. Governor — to have a quorum of two-thirds of its members present in order to conduct a vote, which means that the absence of 11 members can prevent the Senate from voting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Eleven

[jeff47]

75. Except they need 1 present to object. That means they need all 12. (nt)

[CreekDog]

78. Ok. and unlike the redistricting, which united them, this doesn't quite.

damn.

[rdking647]

60. im ready to testify

and i can talk for a long time.........
i didnt testify at the last hearing but now im pissed.
ive stayed in the background but that time has passed.
last night i signed up to make a monthly donation to planned parenthood (thanks to the GOP)
im willing to testify as long as i can stand up and speak....

the GOP may be able to pass this unconstitutional bill but i will do everything i can to male texas blue

[Mr. David]

36. The taxpayers has to be *extremely* pleased that the Governor is wasting taxpayer dollars..

the issues will remain dead, and Republicans removed this fall, and beyond.

[tomm2thumbs]

39. Perry: brat being dragged kicking and screaming to his bath

One day the earth will be washed clean of this dirty filthy mindset -- the GOP are losing minorities, women and intelligent people in general -- all they got left is religious zealots and ignorant Fox viewers.

Guess you dance with the one that brung ya.... but that's a dance ending very soon

The fox trot has come and gone....

[Faygo Kid]

45. Another salvo in the War on Women

These guys are nothing if not determined to control women and the choices they make.

[TexasTowelie]

53. Unfortunately the petulant children will ultimately get their way.

The transportation bill will come first since it is the most urgent and can get bipartisan support.

The death penalty bill isn't that huge of an issue.

The abortion bill(s), let's remember that two were already killed in the calendar process, will be set after the transportation bill but with plenty of time to get it passed. There will be ample time for any filibuster to fall apart. No matter how many people are there to protest the Republicans will ram this bill down our throats and will cheat to win if necessary. The only way to win is to keep either chamber from having the two-thirds necessary to form a quorum. The legislators could try to leave the state, but then the governor gains the upper hand by declaring that Democrats are obstructionists.

The special session will cost $1.2 million, and a few million more will be spent on lawsuits because the Republicans have to have their way.

[jeff47]

66. One senate Democrat supports the bill. That doesn't leave enough to block a quorum. (nt)

[CreekDog]

70. Not true. 11 Democrats can block a quorum and there are 12 Democrats.

i don't know why you insist on this when it's wrong?

[jeff47]

76. 1 Democrat has to be present to object. Thus they need all 12. (nt)

[onehandle]

54. Ladies of 'merica, Are you paying attention? Will you vote in 2014? nt

[LostOne4Ever]

58. Wasn't this the way Anne Richards won?

By the Republicans of Texas pissing off almost every woman in the state?

Maybe this is what we need to get some more dems elected and replace Rick Perry! Or even better, (since the governor is one of the weakest positions in the state) we could replace Gregg Abbot and David Dewhurst!!!!

Probably nothing but wishful thinking but maybe, just maybe, this is what we need to get lightning to strike twice?

[hamsterjill]

83. It was a handshake snub by Clayton Williams that moved the attention to Anne.

She offered her hand to Clayton Williams and he refused to shake her hand. His lack of manners and insult to his opponent cost him big time.

Background covered in this article:

http://todayinsnark.com/2012/10/02/debate-rule-1-dont-be-a-dick-what-clayton-williams-can-teach-scott-brown-and-mitt-romney/

[Dj13Francis]

61. Assclown

Gonna be an assclown. Fuck.

[CarmanK]

71. Ironic, Destroy women's rights in TX on 4th of July! Sounds abt right for TX macho men egos.

[winter is coming]

72. The last time he did this, Perry inadvertently put a Dem state senator on the national map.

He might want to consider the long-term ramifications of his actions.

[Historic NY]

74. How many here from Texas will show up?

will the Senator Davis's work be in vain.....will the Senators work be in vain Texas?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

77. Wendy Davis was on Chris Hayes's show and she clarified that in a Special Session,

the regular quorum rules that require a 2/3 vote of both chambers can be relaxed and only a simple majority is required.

She actually clarified for me the questions/concerns I had about this.

[Rstrstx]

86. Looking back to 2003

It was the second special session where the quorum rules were relaxed

[Beacool]

87. It's the 4th of July week anyway.

The Democrats should leave the state en masse and go enjoy the 4th as far away from TX as possible.

Perry can go rot in hell!!!!!!!!!!