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Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:03 PM

Christie: I Would Veto Same-Sex Marriage Bill Again

Source: WCAU (NBC 10 Philadelphia)

Gov. Chris Christie said he would again veto a same-sex marriage bill if it reaches his desk, and that Wednesday's U.S. Supreme Court ruling striking down a ban on federal benefits for same-sex married couples will have no effect on New Jersey, one of a handful of states that allows civil unions.

Appearing on TownSquare Media's "Ask the Governor,'' program Wednesday night, Christie said he remains opposed to gay marriage but is willing to put the question to voters.

"What I've said all along is what I said when I vetoed the last one, 'let the people decide,'" Christie said. "You're talking about changing an institution that's over 2,000 years old. The Democrats are putting an increase in the minimum wage on the ballot. That's important enough to put on the ballot but gay marriage is not?''

Christie, who said he supports civil unions, also criticized the federal court for the ruling, levying a criticism typically reserved for New Jersey's highest court.

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Sen. Barbara Buono, the Democrat running against Christie for governor and the parent of an adult gay daughter, called for an override of Christie's veto to be held Thursday. But a spokesman for Senate President Steve Sweeney said that won't happen.

Read more: http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/politics/Christie-I-Would-Veto-Same-Sex-Marriage-Bill-Again-213245031.html



http://nj1015.com/governor-christie-stands-firm-on-same-sex-marriage-views-videoaudio/

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Reply Christie: I Would Veto Same-Sex Marriage Bill Again (Original post)
alp227 Jun 2013 OP
awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #1
MillennialDem Jun 2013 #2
NorthCarolina Jun 2013 #6
Orsino Jun 2013 #27
Pool Hall Ace Jun 2013 #3
kelliekat44 Jun 2013 #7
Pool Hall Ace Jun 2013 #33
HockeyMom Jun 2013 #4
onehandle Jun 2013 #5
Beartracks Jun 2013 #8
ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #9
nomorenomore08 Jun 2013 #21
aquart Jun 2013 #10
theHandpuppet Jun 2013 #23
YOHABLO Jun 2013 #11
Dawson Leery Jun 2013 #12
mountain grammy Jun 2013 #13
broadcaster75201 Jun 2013 #14
Phlem Jun 2013 #15
SoapBox Jun 2013 #16
Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #17
proverbialwisdom Jun 2013 #18
Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #19
proverbialwisdom Jun 2013 #20
blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #22
theHandpuppet Jun 2013 #24
lunatica Jun 2013 #25
Arkana Jun 2013 #26
proverbialwisdom Jun 2013 #28
Politicub Jun 2013 #29
MissMillie Jun 2013 #30
brooklynite Jun 2013 #31
Safetykitten Jun 2013 #32

Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:06 PM

1. Had VRA gone up for popular vote...

 

it would have failed. You should never trust the American population to vote on civil rights- half of our population is little better than cave men.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:12 PM

2. Christie doing a hard right shift for 2016 primary. Too bad he is alienating

 

moderates/liberals. Then again kind of a good thing because all the easier Clinton will stomp him.

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Response to MillennialDem (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:46 PM

6. Right now he's playing to the base

 

to get through GOP primaries. In the general, he would play to the center...maybe even left of center for campaign purposes (Dems know all about that part), and then, assuming a win, would resume with the same corporate agenda we see now, and like we saw under Bush. It's all a game, but the end result is always the same with minor differences around the edges.

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Response to MillennialDem (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:00 AM

27. A hard-right pander, anyway.

But compare American opinion of three years ago to that of today, then extrapolate three years forward. I think Christie is betting on a loser.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:17 PM

3. I think marriage has been around significantly longer than 2,000 years.

n/t

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Response to Pool Hall Ace (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:59 PM

7. Yes, all kinds of marriages...according to the Bible...wives and concubines, brother's widow,

 

rapist and rape victim...it's been around much longer than 2,000 years...and so has homosexuality.

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:12 AM

33. Oh, I know. I was surprised Christie brought up that number.

Wasn't Jesus allegedly walking the Earth 2,000 years ago? In the past, I thought Christie was trying to paint himself as a moderate. Implying that Christians invented marriage certainly doesn't do that.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:36 PM

4. Civil Rights shouldn't be voted on BUT,

if it was put on a ballot vote by the people, would it pass in NJ? I think so. He could not veto that. Maybe that is what Christie is looking for so he could save face with this Party.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:46 PM

5. Mmmmm... Butter. nt

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:09 PM

8. But, Gov Christie, minimum wage isn't discriminatory.

Sure, it's not high enough, but it's not like minimum wage is DENIED to certain people.

You're making an apples-to-oranges comparison on the kind of thing that needs to go before the voters.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:20 PM

9. Can we stop kissing this jerks ass now?

Fuck him.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 02:21 AM

21. +1

I don't understand what any Democrat - even a relatively conservative one - could possibly see in the guy. He's not even all that likeable IMO.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:55 PM

10. 2000 years is Christian time. He is injecting Christianity into government.

Jesus didn't comment on gay marriage. He once went to a wedding but we have no idea who got married. The OLD Testament, the non-Christian book which Christians should never be allowed to read because they don't understand it, does have passages which can be read as homophobic. But it's a really bloody book and not for current emulation.

However, the NEW Testament has "render unto Caesar the thing's that are Caesar's" which could be interpreted as civil marriage is up to the government and not the Church.

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Response to aquart (Reply #10)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 05:33 AM

23. Jesus didn't have anything to say about gay folks...

... but he did have plenty to say about divorce. If some straight folks like Christie are so determined to take their cues about the "sanctity of marriage" from the Bible, then why not outlaw divorce?

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:21 PM

11. Hey Christie ... Jame Gandolfini ... just sayin.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:28 PM

12. Keep religion out of government.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:28 PM

13. Just in cast you were thinking he was reasonable....

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:48 PM

14. If he wins, it will be the Dems that vote for 'em. If they do ... fuck em all. n/t

nt

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Response to broadcaster75201 (Reply #14)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:01 PM

15. Sure OK.

me magic cap says otherwise. I'm thinking all the republican votes will help a lot too.

-p

The answer is always EDUCATION.

Lack of it for the past generation, combined with unemployed educated disillusioned youth for this generation can manifest in long term confusion of the process. Thus creating another lost generation.

There are processes in our system designed to stifle any forward progress including charter schools which suck the funds from established brick and mortar schools and spreads the funds around in a hard unclear process leaving education funding vulnerable to the situation of misappropriation.

Our teachers were the best, I remember them. Then something changed, maybe it was standardized testing, and it's been going downhill ever since to our current system if education.

My field requires me to put on the learning cap for the rest of my life, or get outdated and lose opportunities.

We should learn until the day we die.

Otherwise the brain atrophies and simple decisions become non sensical confusion filled exercises and you just end up voting R because it's being spoon fed in simple clear (yet distorted) proportions.

-p


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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:42 PM

16. Enough said then, Gov. Hater.

...you can kiss my gay ass.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:54 PM

17. Yes, NJ Democrats, keep endorsing this motherfucker! He hugged Obama. BFD

 

Koch sucking asshole needs to be run out of office.

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Response to Nanjing to Seoul (Reply #17)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 12:13 AM

18. Read about the previous NJ governor today?

Last edited Fri Jun 28, 2013, 02:22 AM - Edit history (2)

google: corzine civil case $1 billion

DU discussion here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014520819

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Response to proverbialwisdom (Reply #18)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 12:26 AM

19. So this makes Christie the greatest governor ever. . .because Corzine was corrupt?

 

Christie then should be our next president.

I'm sold!

CHRISTIE/PAUL 2016!!!!! With Rubio our Sec of State and the asshole that runs Blackwater/XE/Academi as Sec of Defense

FUCK DEMOCRATS!!! Christie is the country's savior! Let all Democrats endorse him!

(notice the sarcasm)

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Response to Nanjing to Seoul (Reply #19)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 01:40 AM

20. Uh, not even close. nt

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 05:03 AM

22. Of course.

 

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 05:38 AM

24. Has anyone ever asked Christie...

... just what was it Jesus said about marriage? Gay folks? I'll bet he doesn't even know. The Bible also supports the institution of slavery but gee, we figured out that was evil, stupid and wrong. http://www.evilbible.com/Slavery.htm

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 07:26 AM

25. He makes himself look like a fool

He might as well remain determined that the earth is flat.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 08:38 AM

26. I think we should put Governor Christie's right to marriage up for a vote.

I wonder if he'd be OK with that?

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 02:39 PM

28. Barbara Buono on Marriage Equality; The Plan for Marriage Equality in N.J.

http://www.bluejersey.com/diary/23362/barbara-buono-on-marriage-equality

Barbara Buono on Marriage Equality

by: deciminyan
Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 06:30:00 PM EDT


I often hear the complaint that elections don't matter because there's not much difference between the two candidates. Nothing could be further from the truth when it comes to New Jersey's gubernatorial election.

After yesterday's historic Supreme Court decision striking down parts of the Defense of Marriage Act, Governor Chris Christie doubled down on his position that ensures second class citizenship for tens of thousands of New Jerseyans. His opponent, Senator Barbara Buono reaffirmed her support for marriage equality at a rally and press conference today in Trenton.

She talked about the dual-tier system of marriage for some, and civil unions for others by saying "separate but equal is not good enough", and called the governor "spineless" over his intransigence in civil rights. Regarding her daughter's decision to publicly announce that she's gay, Buono kvelled, "my heart is bursting with pride" about her daughter's bravery.

Here are her comments - from the rally on the State House steps and from the press conference that followed.

VIDEO


http://www.bluejersey.com/diary/23366/the-plan-for-marriage-equality-in-nj

The Plan for Marriage Equality in N.J.

by: Bill Orr
Fri Jun 28, 2013 at 09:23:34 AM EDT


At Thursday's rally in Trenton Lambda Legal's attorney Hayley Gorenberg announced the direction Lambda will take to bring Marriage Equality to New Jersey. The plan is to file a motion, possibly as soon as next week, for summary judgment in New Jersey's Superior Court on behalf of Garden State Equality and six same-sex couples. The basis for the motion was outlined in Scott Weingart's Wednesday Blue Jersey Diary The Road Ahead Of Us.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 02:50 PM

29. Yeah, governor Jerkwad Asshole would make a fine president

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 04:15 PM

30. Sounds like a statement....

for a future Primary run to me.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 05:09 PM

31. How many points will this shave off his November re-election?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #31)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 05:21 PM

32. Lots.

 

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