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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:38 PM Jun 2013

Justice Dept. targets general in leak probe

Source: Washington Post

A retired four-star Marine Corps general who served as the nation’s second-ranking military officer is a target of a Justice Department investigation into a leak of information about a covert U.S.-Israeli cyberattack on Iran’s nuclear program, a senior Obama administration official said.

Retired Gen. James E. “Hoss” Cartwright served as deputy chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and was part of President Obama’s inner circle on a range of critical national security issues before he retired in 2011.

The administration official said that Cartwright is suspected of revealing information about a highly classified effort to use a computer virus later dubbed Stuxnet to sabotage equipment in Iranian nuclear enrichment plants.

Stuxnet was part of a broader cyber campaign called Olympic Games that was disclosed by the New York Times last year as one of the first major efforts by the United States to use computer code as a destructive weapon against a key adversary.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-dept-targets-general-in-leak-probe/2013/06/27/9ad8bc4e-df7c-11e2-b2d4-ea6d8f477a01_story.html

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Justice Dept. targets general in leak probe (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 OP
Fry his ass. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #1
Thanks for the link Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #3
Ahmadinejad publicly announced the Stuxnet infection in Nov. 2010. It wasn't unveiled by Cartwright. leveymg Jun 2013 #2
The US is trying to cause a nuclear accident in Iran. Eric J in MN Jun 2013 #4
Not really Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #5
Centrifuges holding radioactive material breaking can't cause a leak? NT Eric J in MN Jun 2013 #6
It can't cause a leak. nt bananas Jun 2013 #9
Sounds as if someone doesn't like Cartwright Zorro Jun 2013 #7
add Petraeus and McChrystal. Whisp Jun 2013 #8

DURHAM D

(32,606 posts)
1. Fry his ass.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 12:15 AM
Jun 2013

It looks like he was pissed because Obama passed him over for the Joint Chiefs.

Here is an excellent article from Vanity Fair (April 2011) on Stuxnet-

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2011/04/stuxnet-201104#

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
3. Thanks for the link
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 01:17 AM
Jun 2013

Looks like Obama made a good call passing him over.

Now Mr. Cartwright may end up in jail for a while.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
2. Ahmadinejad publicly announced the Stuxnet infection in Nov. 2010. It wasn't unveiled by Cartwright.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 12:29 AM
Jun 2013

Last edited Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:52 AM - Edit history (1)

It was discovered in June of 2010.

Source: Small Wars Journal, April 2011, smallwarsjournal.com
On June 17th, 2010, security researchers at a small Belarusian firm known as VirusBlockAda identified malicious software (malware) that infected USB memory sticks.1In the months that followed, there was a flurry of activity in the computer security community – revealing that this discovery identified only one component of a new computer worm2 known as Stuxnet. < . . .>
In November of 2010, some of these suspicions were validated when Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad publicly acknowledged that a computer worm created problems for a “limited number of our [nuclear] centrifuges.”5
(5) Thomas Erdbrink, “Ahmadinejad: Iran's nuclear program hit by sabotage,” Washington Post, 29 November, 2010, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/29/AR2010112903468.html


The DOJ investigation was commenced until last summer, according to the WaPo article linked in the OP. That followed a story run in the NYT in June 2012 detailing President Obama's personal involvement in authorizing the continuation of the "Olympic Games" program, even after Iran became aware of it and the virus had spread globally. This created a dilemma for the Administration that it seemed to undermine American outrage at hacking and cyber sabotage of which the U.S. accused other powers. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/world/middleeast/obama-ordered-wave-of-cyberattacks-against-iran.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&ref=stuxnet

Mr. Obama, according to participants in the many Situation Room meetings on Olympic Games, was acutely aware that with every attack he was pushing the United States into new territory, much as his predecessors had with the first use of atomic weapons in the 1940s, of intercontinental missiles in the 1950s and of drones in the past decade. He repeatedly expressed concerns that any American acknowledgment that it was using cyberweapons — even under the most careful and limited circumstances — could enable other countries, terrorists or hackers to justify their own attacks.


It appears that Cartwright, a major enthusiast for the program, overplayed the bureaucratic game of leaking. This led to some embarrassment of the President when the US role in the attacks was confirmed. It is clear from a reading of the NYT article didn't reveal anything Iran did not already know.

I sense that something else is going on that led to Cartwright being targeted for an indictment . He has made some powerful enemies, and there may be a shift in US Iran policy going on.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
4. The US is trying to cause a nuclear accident in Iran.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 02:23 PM
Jun 2013

How would we like it if Iran were trying to cause a nuclear accident in the US?

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
5. Not really
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 02:31 PM
Jun 2013

The stuxnet worm made Iran's centrifuges spin at an extremely high rate, but the person controlling it could not tell. This resulted in the centrifuges breaking.

This isn't really a nuclear accident like Fukushima. This is done during the process of enrichment.

Zorro

(15,724 posts)
7. Sounds as if someone doesn't like Cartwright
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 09:56 PM
Jun 2013

I'd be quite surprised if there was any merit to this allegation.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
8. add Petraeus and McChrystal.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:02 PM
Jun 2013

Some big star beefies don't like taking orders from the President. They undermine him and think they are the ones calling the shots.

Fuck them all.

And there are more of them.

I think there is a name for this kind of thing.

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