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silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 06:28 PM Sep 2013

Lake Co. judge rules state’s right to work law unconstitutional

Source: Fox 59

LAKE COUNTY – A Lake County judge ruled Indiana’s right to work law unconstitutional.

The lawsuit was filed by the International Union of Operating Engineers Local 150. The union claimed the law violated Article 1, Section 21 of the state’s Constitution, which says “no person’s particular services shall be demanded without just compensation.”

Local 150 argued the right to work law is unconstitutional because it makes it illegal for unions to collect fees for services they are federal required to provide.

In the decision. Judge John M. Sedia of Lake Superior Court said the law makes it “a criminal offense for a union to receive just compensation for particular services federal law demands it provide to employees.” Sedia concluded that, “the Court therefore has no choice but to find that [the laws] violate Article 1, Section 21 of the Indiana Constitution.”



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Lake Co. judge rules state’s right to work law unconstitutional (Original Post) silvershadow Sep 2013 OP
Dear Mr. Judge Dude... Wait Wut Sep 2013 #1
This does my heart good. Even better, Gov. Pence is in Japan on a business trip. LOL nt silvershadow Sep 2013 #2
I wish that would spread Warpy Sep 2013 #5
We'll see whether this holds up caraher Sep 2013 #27
I would think there would be a way for this to be applied in every RTW state LiberalFighter Sep 2013 #34
THANKS, Wait! elleng Sep 2013 #13
Tea Farty Heads exploding in 3, 2, .. FreakinDJ Sep 2013 #3
Yeah, the comments are already starting (on the news site). nt silvershadow Sep 2013 #4
Commenting has been disabled... Contrary1 Sep 2013 #18
Good. Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #6
Ah, the clue is in the last sentence jberryhill Sep 2013 #7
You hate that too huh? Scuba Sep 2013 #15
drives me nuts here jberryhill Sep 2013 #16
Well ok, but it was mentioned in the first sentence. ;) silvershadow Sep 2013 #17
I don't have time to read War and Peace to puzzle these things out jberryhill Sep 2013 #20
It was literally the 5th word or so. nt silvershadow Sep 2013 #33
Like a needle in a haystack jberryhill Sep 2013 #36
No, right there in the first words on the post. It says right there, Indiana. nt silvershadow Sep 2013 #37
Right next to Waldo jberryhill Sep 2013 #38
thank you for pointing that out. rurallib Sep 2013 #24
Awesome, hope this catches on nationwide! OverBurn Sep 2013 #8
Good luck on this one DissidentVoice Sep 2013 #9
I'm terribly sorry BlueEye Sep 2013 #22
It's no picnic DissidentVoice Sep 2013 #26
So a union is a person? Shrike47 Sep 2013 #10
As much as a corporation is (per SCOTUS) Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2013 #11
The people working for the union are providing the services. LiberalFighter Sep 2013 #35
Oy. That's a binding violation. Igel Sep 2013 #12
That's awesome! blackspade Sep 2013 #14
Interesting. Brigid Sep 2013 #19
Remember the State Court of appeals is filed with Repukes INdemo Sep 2013 #21
I'm not sure he didn't. nt silvershadow Sep 2013 #23
Good Luck mtasselin Sep 2013 #25
Good point caraher Sep 2013 #28
Fantastic! Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #29
My dad was in the IUOE for 30 years krispos42 Sep 2013 #30
Bothersome: “a criminal offense for a union ... services federal law demands it provides" Myrina Sep 2013 #31
My happy middle finger to every Tealiban Klan member, AKA the entire Rethug Party. knr nt livingwagenow Sep 2013 #32

Warpy

(111,141 posts)
5. I wish that would spread
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 06:42 PM
Sep 2013

but it might just be a peculiarity in the Indiana state constitution that allowed this ruling.

In any case, it's good to see one state back off from being Right to Starve.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
27. We'll see whether this holds up
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:07 AM
Sep 2013

I don't know the state Supreme Court well enough to know whether this ruling has a fighting chance of surviving. I'm not celebrating yet!

LiberalFighter

(50,783 posts)
34. I would think there would be a way for this to be applied in every RTW state
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 06:01 PM
Sep 2013

regardless of their constitution.

The basic premise of the challenge is that a person or business cannot be forced to provide services without compensation.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. Ah, the clue is in the last sentence
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 06:52 PM
Sep 2013

There is a "Lake County" in:

Florida
Illinois
Ohio
California
Minnesota
Colorado
Michigan
Oregon

and...... Indiana

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
9. Good luck on this one
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 07:05 PM
Sep 2013

I was born and raised in Indiana until we got the hell out for Michigan in 2007.

Indiana is, outside the major urban centres (Indy, South Bend/Mishawaka/Elkhart/Goshen, Fort Wayne, Gary/Hammond) and university towns (Lafayette and especially Bloomington, which feels like a foreign enclave!), RW central. People there almost robotically vote Republican (yes, I know about Evan Bayh; DLC Democrats don't count) because "their daddy and granddaddy did."

The place is as hostile to workers' rights and especially unions (you can be fired for even mentioning the word "union" - seen it) as anywhere in the Deep South.

I'll be very surprised if the Lake County judge's ruling is upheld.

BlueEye

(449 posts)
22. I'm terribly sorry
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 08:48 PM
Sep 2013

Having to live under Rick Snyder must be awful! I know things weren't so bleak when Granholm was in office.

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
26. It's no picnic
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:49 AM
Sep 2013

However, I think not a few Michiganders are feeling some "buyer's remorse."

They were so down on Jennifer Granholm by the end of her second term because she couldn't walk on water or part the Red Sea that they voted in the "tough nerd," Rick Snyder. I don't think Jenny was perfect, but she was a hell of a lot better than people gave her credit for. I liked it when she was on the late, lamented CurrentTV. She sat in for Sarah Palin ( ) during Joe Biden's practice debating in '08. The VP said, "this is one tough, smart lady...underestimate her at your peril!" If only she could run for President...

Now, since Snyder's pushed through right-to-work (especially), people are starting to see that he really is a tool of the far right, unlike he said he wouldn't be.

I'm more concerned about our next Senate race. Carl Levin is retiring, and it's a tossup as to whether Debbie Stabenow is reelected.

Igel

(35,274 posts)
12. Oy. That's a binding violation.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 07:36 PM
Sep 2013

Condition A.

Do we even still have Binding Theory? It's been a while since I read up on it. Never liked Move-alpha. Never took to Minimalism or (shudder) Residue theory.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
21. Remember the State Court of appeals is filed with Repukes
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 08:40 PM
Sep 2013

So no chance of this thing getting legs in Indiana. Republicans will find a way to make this Judge's ruling irrelevant.

If the Devil ran for governor on the Republican ticket in Indiana he would win

caraher

(6,278 posts)
28. Good point
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:10 AM
Sep 2013

They may even bump that ahead of banning gay marriage even more forcefully than they already have on the Republican to-do list. But my guess is they won't even have to do that; the state Supreme Court will probably reverse the ruling (why? Because this is Indiana...)

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
31. Bothersome: “a criminal offense for a union ... services federal law demands it provides"
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:02 PM
Sep 2013

Sounds to me like a roundabout for the Koch's to eliminate either the Federal Reg and /or the Union, ultimately.

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