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Mon Oct 14, 2013, 07:53 PM

Texas GOP candidate: 4 liberal states should secede

Source: USA Today

Forget about Texas seceding from the union. It's solidly blue states like California, Massachusetts, New York and Connecticut that should get the boot, jokes a Republican running for Texas lieutenant governor.

"I'm in favor of expulsion," Texas Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson told the Associated Press. "New York, California and there's some good people in New York and California but their legislatures' aren't representing them."

Patterson may only be half-joking.

Earlier this year, more than 100,000 people signed a petition on the White House website calling on the Obama administration to allow Texas to secede and create its own government. It was similar to petitions filed by people in Alabama, Louisiana and other states where Obama isn't popular. The White House responded by citing an 1869 Supreme Court decision that found individual states do not have the right to secede...



Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/onpolitics/2013/10/11/jerry-patterson-texas-liberal-states-secede/2966519/



I get it...

plan A: Failing voluntary deportation -- the expulsion of "liberal" states (I guess purple states are tolerable).

...Only a few constitutional amendments involved there.


Plan B: Secession.

OK Texas; when hurricane Lee hits Corpus Christie, you're on your own. No declaration of a "national" disaster. No federal intervention or funding for rescue, recovery, cleanup, rebuilding etc.

All your politics & politicians will be local & I guarantee you that every last one of your "leaders" will be swept out of office for pandering to the mindless ideologues who considered secession to be a viable expression of opposition to the current administration.

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the divided state of Texas, and against the republic which it stands against..."


Oh that's right Mr. Patterson, your statements were only hyperbole.

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Reply Texas GOP candidate: 4 liberal states should secede (Original post)
Indi Guy Oct 2013 OP
BillyRibs Oct 2013 #1
Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #52
Politicub Oct 2013 #2
Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #3
MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #4
W T F Oct 2013 #5
libdem4life Oct 2013 #16
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ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2013 #7
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Tom Ripley Oct 2013 #53
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Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #22
pam4water Oct 2013 #14
Moonwalk Oct 2013 #15
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hamsterjill Oct 2013 #48
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Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #32
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Indi Guy Oct 2013 #44
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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 07:58 PM

1. That's a hoot!

 

Now what are you going to do for lost revenue for the US treasure considering these states send more to the US treasury then they get back. As for Texas that is a depended state you live in.

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Response to BillyRibs (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 11:08 AM

52. I think his plan is insufficiently ambitious.

All the "donor" states ought to secede.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 07:59 PM

2. We've heard this song before

And it ended poorly for the traitors who wanted to divide the union the first time they tried.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:00 PM

3. Texas GOP candidate: I need a headline since I don't have a snowball's chance of victory

so let me turn up the crazy to 11 and watch the media just lap it up...

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:00 PM

4. WHERE DO I SIGN?

 

Regards,

First-Way Manny

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:00 PM

5. I live in California, My best guess is that although they want us out of the........

Union, they'll still want our tax money.

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Response to W T F (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:34 PM

16. Until tourist season...then the natives hunker down.

 

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:00 PM

6. The good news is that there will be

no shortage of dickheads for the foreseeable future.

Now, if we could only figure out some use for them.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:03 PM

7. The rest of the country would fall into chaos.

Mass, California, Connecticut, and New York all pay much more in taxes than they get back.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:08 PM

8. Who'd make up all that lost federal money

 

to the Confederate "taker" states if the Union"maker" states were gone?

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Response to sulphurdunn (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 11:56 AM

53. +1000

 

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Response to sulphurdunn (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 03:51 PM

59. That's right. The blue states have to prop up the loser-moocher red states.

 

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:08 PM

9. Okay, NY will bow out...

....and we'll take Wall Street (yeah, i know...) a multi billion dollar tourism industry, first cases hospitals, a huge chunk of fertile farm land, and miles of pristine beaches with us.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:10 PM

10. F/ck off and die, GOPee. I'm not interested in what you have to say any more...

 

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:15 PM

11. I really wish people would stop bashing the North.

 

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:20 PM

12. I'm sorry?

Is someone from Johnny-come-lately Texas actually suggesting a founding state (or 3) leave the country they created? What a jackass.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:21 PM

13. Shibasaki Kou-san, has her answer ready for Jerry Patterson




I agree, Kou San!

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #13)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:45 PM

18. Hey, like! *steals* Just call me Grand Theft Gif...

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Response to freshwest (Reply #18)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:49 PM

19. I wish I had a better one...

Seems it has a glitch in the center some place. Those things eventually lose their continuity.

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #19)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:11 PM

23. Yeah, I've lost some that way. Best to make copies if possible to prevent degrading.

Here's one hosted off a google search, which I downloaded and can put in my own account if they discontinue it or it starts to act up at the link:



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Response to freshwest (Reply #23)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:14 PM

25. I have a kitty...

I can totally relate to that!!

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #25)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:35 PM

29. Teh kitteh was totally justified! Just trying to maintain Feng Shui. Cats are experts at that!

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #13)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:11 PM

22. Are you sure you are not AsahinaKimi?

 

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:21 PM

14. At this point I'm willing to let them go. The tea party is going to destroy the value of

the US currency if we don't get them out of congress. Succession would get them out. After they fail and fall on their faces, we can let them back in on our reasonable terms.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:30 PM

15. Can we give Texas back to Mexico?

Mexico's been a much better neighbor, of late, than Texas. Why create a new foreign nation that hates us rather than just giving the foreign nation we're on pretty good terms with territory that we probably shouldn't have taken from them?

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Response to Moonwalk (Reply #15)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:35 PM

17. Perhaps throw in Arizona to sweeten the deal?

 

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Response to Moonwalk (Reply #15)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:01 PM

21. But, but, Louis says Al Kay-duhs are pretending to be Mexicans. That'll bring Sharia Law!

Be careful what you ask for because you just might get it.



Well, not really that much different than the way it's been starting to look like under the Tea Talibans.

Ready to accept national health care, give up your guns and forget that English first nonsense?

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Response to Moonwalk (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 08:26 AM

48. No, you may not.

Please, please, please understand that not all Texans are nut cases. I am a sixth generation Texan, a lifelong Democrat and have never voted for a Republican in my life.

I have probably been a Texan longer than the idiot who is the subject of this thread. Texas WAS blue until all of the idiots moved in after messing up their home states, and most of us REAL Texans want it back that way.

Rather than secession, let's send all of the idiots home who weren't born here and were not content enough to move here and meld into the way of life the rest of us enjoyed, but rather worked to make Texas the crazy land that it is now.

I want to remain a part of the United States of America. I want California and New York, et al to stay here, too. I just want a vaccine against the idiot crazies like Patterson.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #48)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 01:43 PM

54. My Apologies! I do understand that not all Texans are crazy and I hope, hope, hope...

...the rational side wins out soon and turns Texas blue.

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Response to Moonwalk (Reply #54)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 03:39 PM

57. Thank you - and we'll take all the help we can get!!!

n/t

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:57 PM

20. The Blue States Carry the Red States!

Last edited Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:24 PM - Edit history (1)

This Patterson clown obviously doesn't know that the "Big-Government-Teat sucking" RED states pull more out of the national treasury, per capita, than the blue states do.

Someone needs to shove a microphone in this tool's face and confront him with an uncomfortable fact.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:11 PM

24. Hey, pal, I'm from California and my legislature and governor are SO representing me!!!!

VERY MUCH SO!!! Far better than any of the jerks on your side of the aisle ever could, or ever have.

YOU secede. And don't come whining and begging when the next big hurricane hits.

Besides, we're BIGGER'n you. You do NOT tell US what to do and you have even less say-so in what we do. I think it should be the other way around, if you really wanna know. And our state budget is back in the black, too, btw... under DEMOCRATIC leadership, thankyouverymuch.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:21 PM

26. I think hes on to something

maybe Massachusetts, New York and Connecticut could start their on country and populate it by invitation only

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:24 PM

27. Native Texan here....

Perhaps the good old USA should begin the process of expelling Texas. It would serve us right for electing such backslashes.

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Response to bmbmd (Reply #27)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:48 PM

30. Give Texas back to Mexico.

After it gets expelled from the United States.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:25 PM

28. Even the inimitable Justice Scalia proffered if the Civil War settled anything, it was that states

have no right to secede.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:51 PM

31. Sure, kick out California

The 7th or 9th largest economy in the world. All I ask for is a one-way bus ticket.

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Response to xfundy (Reply #31)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:10 PM

32. Who needs a bus ticket, I will gladly pay to move to any one of these States!

 

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:12 PM

33. If you guys get to go, I'm moving back to Brooklyn.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:43 PM

34. fucking moron

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:28 PM

35. You first, asshole

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:39 PM

36. That sounds good to me, but since New York and California are so far apart,

Wouldn't it be easier to reconsider the results of the civil war and grant all of the southern states their independence. Then everyone would be happy.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:54 PM

37. Let Texas secede...but let it be REAL secession

Not some half-assed "secession" like Quebec has threatened Canada with for almost 50 years...where they're "independent," but having a "customs and monetary union" with Canada, still having Canadian health care and having the Canadian military maintain its bases in Quebec.

Texas would have to know that independent means just that - you're on your own.

The military hardware at places like Fort Hood and Lackland AFB does not belong to you.

No more Social Security, no more Medicare, no more Federal funds for ANYTHING.

It is up to YOU to negotiate international relations...including with your former neighbours, who may not be well-disposed to grant you any sort of recognition, admittance to the UN, NATO, having other countries receive your ambassadors, or raising your own armed forces.

I think most logical, reasonable Texans would get the hell out long before that happened.

Personally, I don't think the Civil War ever really ended, and I don't think it ever will.

Maybe a peaceful referendum on whether or not the former Confederate states want to remain part of the USA is needed.

I'd rather see it go that way than the bloodshed of Yugoslavia in the 1990s.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:54 PM

38. Oh yeah...they just LOVE America.

Bastards. It's all about them.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 12:23 AM

39. damn

WA state didnt make the cut....vote for gays...vote for pot.... we are not appreciated here!!

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Response to MFM008 (Reply #39)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 01:14 AM

41. I'd move that, if CA goes, OR and WA go with it.

I spend too much time traveling among those three to have to bother with international border crossings all the time. Heck, I've been to CA 10 times this year, and I was in WA this afternoon.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 12:59 AM

40. If Texas did go, they probably would want to build a fence...

 

saving us the cost of keeping them out.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 01:45 AM

42. Are we sure he's spelling that right?

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Response to crim son (Reply #42)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 02:44 AM

44. That's rich!

...can't let that one go without bringing out the classic:



Here it is in context:

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Response to Indi Guy (Reply #44)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 01:53 PM

55. Love the classics! n/t

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 02:17 AM

43. Just another stupid fuck Bagger.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 04:31 AM

45. How about giving Texas back to Mexico

and paying them some money to take the wackos off our hands. Nah, that would be too cruel to Mexico.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 05:05 AM

46. I see they chose a photo where he looks exceptionally bright

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 06:38 AM

47. I thought we already were our own country.. lol

I live in NY. When I leave this state to go to Nashville, TN (like I will need to this weekend) southwards, it is a little tense. Years ago, it just felt that way when I entered Kentucky. Now, it is sometimes when I enter Ohio. PA still feels like home at least.

Funny story-- many eons ago when I was around 20 I lived out in California and all my friends ended up being emigrants from the East Coast-- Rhode Island, New Jersey, Boston etc. I was on a naval base that featured most of it's inhabitants from Texas (Waco was a popular region) and I used to easily instigate fights among 2 drunk Texans which would then snowball but it was like shooting fish in a barrel so became boring very fast (naval bases are very boring places for young people). I left the Navy and lived there a little while longer but the cost of living in Southern Cali was not kind in the 1980s for the unskilled and I was not enamored of seeking fame and fortune and was a little overwhelmed by the sheer number of suburban developments built out from the city centers so I went back home and back to school. But hey, great weather! Beautiful beaches! I really loved San Francisco! (just 20 years too late). And I did go to Tj back when it was relatively safe.

Oh and notice this moron from Texas thinks there are only 4 states in NE (including NY)-- Many Southerners think that NY is part of New England.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 09:28 AM

49. I wouldn't mind a bit if the Northeast split off

Just being completely honest. I have thought for a long time that we are to large for a government for the people, by the people. I know my view isn't a popular one.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 10:39 AM

50. I'm OK with this

Seriously. Does anyone not agree that the people of the south and the people of New England have very little in common anymore?

Can you imagine the great candidates we in the northeast would have running for national office? The decent Republicans from up here (and there are some) could actually be a part of the solution instead of being saddled with the Neanderthal Republicanism of the South.

It's worth talking about at least, in my opinion.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 10:42 AM

51. That would leave the 'taker' states close to majority. Who would pay the bills?

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 02:49 PM

56. If the liberal states left, the remaining U.S. would be a second-rate economy.

Us "liberal states" also happen to be the core of the American economy. We here in California could ditch the rest of America tomorrow and not miss it. We export far more tax dollars that we receive. The state is, and would remain, a global leader in everything from technology to agricultural exports, and is still a hub for aerospace, military manufacturing, and telecommunications. Heck, we even have our own spaceflight facility at Vandenberg and could establish our own space program!

Mr. Patterson should watch what he wishes for. An America without the Northeast and California would be a pretty miserable place.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 03:42 PM

58. Except Texas is the one who's threatened to secede repeatedly.

Maybe Mexico would like it back.

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