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Omaha Steve

(99,609 posts)
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 11:35 AM Jan 2014

GM to outfit Chevy vehicles with 4G from AT&T

Source: AP-EXCITE

LAS VEGAS (AP) - GM says it will start outfitting most Chevrolet vehicles with 4G cellular capabilities in partnership with AT&T. The technology will let drivers make phone calls and allow passengers to surf the Web without burning through the voice and data limits on their phone plans.

General Motors Co. (GM) said at the International CES gadget show Sunday that the 2015 model year Chevrolet Corvette, Impala, Malibu and Volt will be the first to come equipped with the capabilities this year, followed by the Equinox, Silverado, Silverado HD, Spark and Spark EV.

While the hardware will be standard, pricing plans have yet to be announced.

The cellular capability will be integrated with GM's OnStar roadside assistance service. OnStar currently costs upward of $199 a year and has more than 6 million subscribers.

Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20140106/DAB535F00.html



Since texting causes accidents, do we really want surfing in the car?
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GM to outfit Chevy vehicles with 4G from AT&T (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jan 2014 OP
Yeah, but think of the GPS capabilities. RC Jan 2014 #1
This isn't nefarious eggplant Jan 2014 #2
"eliminate infrastructure costs" -- spot on Auggie Jan 2014 #3
I can leave my phone at home. nt awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #11
4G but gas mileage STILL needs help, IMHOP benld74 Jan 2014 #4
I read: "GM to outfit Cheney vehicles with 4G from AT&T" Xipe Totec Jan 2014 #5
And Ralph Nader is whining because his Sirius/XM investment is crashing. onehandle Jan 2014 #6
I like how the article gives a glowing report to OnStar happyslug Jan 2014 #7
Who needs ONSTAR? I have a tracfone and AAA! nt MADem Jan 2014 #26
23 times more dangerous than driving undistracted, 6 times worse than drunk driving KurtNYC Jan 2014 #8
What next? Loaded guns and a kegger in the back seat? Fred Sanders Jan 2014 #15
That combo used to be legal in Texas KurtNYC Jan 2014 #19
Just lovely, BobUp Jan 2014 #9
Tssk, tssk... Fred Sanders Jan 2014 #16
This is laying the groundwork for auto piloted autos kristopher Jan 2014 #10
People will read the paper on their tablets as they "drive" to work. MADem Jan 2014 #27
Of course but halfassed seabeckind Jan 2014 #12
It's all about what the NSA wants. They still intend on putting cameras & microphones in our cars & blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #13
Wireless In Cars is Mass Suicide and Murder By Stupid and Distracted. Fred Sanders Jan 2014 #14
Yet one more reason not to buy a new GM vehicle debunkthis Jan 2014 #17
Welcome to the stone ages. CANDO Jan 2014 #25
For about 90% of my transactions debunkthis Jan 2014 #30
The chip they stuck in you during that last operation is all they need snooper2 Jan 2014 #32
Yet another reason to not buy GM. nt bemildred Jan 2014 #18
Toyota is starting their service ASAP to compete with OnStar Omaha Steve Jan 2014 #22
You can't win. nt bemildred Jan 2014 #23
Do we really wan't the NSA monitoring everthing we do and say or where we go? twirlybird Jan 2014 #20
So if I want 4G, but I don't like AT&T? jmowreader Jan 2014 #21
^^^^^^^ this^^^^^^^^^ n/t NMDemDist2 Jan 2014 #24
Another continuous audio eavesdropper just like OnStar. PSPS Jan 2014 #28
Why would I want to pay YET ANOTHER monthly fee? BlueStreak Jan 2014 #29
Onstar already has phone capability.... Historic NY Jan 2014 #31
Goodbye radio AngryAmish Jan 2014 #33
just what i need another car payment dembotoz Jan 2014 #34
 

RC

(25,592 posts)
1. Yeah, but think of the GPS capabilities.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 11:46 AM
Jan 2014

Our trackers will know every place your car has ever been.
But I couldn't have robbed the bank at 1st and Main, your Honor. My car was at... err, a friend's house, that's it, a friend's house, on the corner of Mulberry and Locus all day.

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
2. This isn't nefarious
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 11:54 AM
Jan 2014

You can already be tracked by the phone on your hip, and criminals really aren't bright enough to turn them off.

My guess is that GM's motive is to eliminate the infrastructure costs of supporting OnStar by switching its traffic over to 4G.

As for surfing in the car, that would be for the passengers.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
5. I read: "GM to outfit Cheney vehicles with 4G from AT&T"
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 12:41 PM
Jan 2014

I was wondering if it was possible to hack in and RC control the Dick.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
6. And Ralph Nader is whining because his Sirius/XM investment is crashing.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 01:31 PM
Jan 2014

Tough shit, Ralphy. But you have your other millions to roll around in.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
7. I like how the article gives a glowing report to OnStar
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 01:31 PM
Jan 2014

Six Million subscribers!!! that sounds like a lot, but GM has provided the CAPACITY for OnStar in all of their cars for at least the last ten years. Since 2009 GM has sold 2.0 to 2.7 million cars a year. Thus if we look at the last five years, GM has sold 12 million cars, year over HALF did NOT retain OnStar?? (This is assuming when the car is sold used, the new owners do NOT adopt OnStar for their own use, something they can do).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors

The number of cars sold by GM has dropped almost 50% from what GM sold in the 1990s and till 2006, it was this drop in sales more then any increase in sales by Toyota that made Toyota the #1 car seller in the world in 2008. GM regained the title in 2011 and still holds it.

OnStar has been around since 1995, but the present digital system since 2008:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnStar

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
8. 23 times more dangerous than driving undistracted, 6 times worse than drunk driving
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 01:45 PM
Jan 2014

330,000 injuries per year, 3,000 deaths and the leading killer of teenaged drivers.

If they would have put a beer tap on the dashboard it would have been 6 times safer than this.

http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/files/Driving-while-Texting-Six-Times-More-Dangerous-than-Driving-while-Drunk.html#.UsrrHvuwRw0

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
19. That combo used to be legal in Texas
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 06:10 PM
Jan 2014

Gun rack in the cab, keg in the bed of the truck with the tap through the split glass.

Next is video games for the driver projected on to the windshield:

http://www.hudwayapp.com/

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
10. This is laying the groundwork for auto piloted autos
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 02:11 PM
Jan 2014

I edited a technical paper out of Honda R&D back in the late 80's on their concept for the Intelligent Vehicle Highway Control System. There are many names for it, but the combination of 4G wireless, tremendous advances in computing power and the ever improving accuracy of satellite mapping is pushing us close to the point where all the pieces are in place for automated personal transportation. It isn't what is being directly discussed, but I believe it's what this is leading us towards.


Automakers Join With Google To Offer Android Software
http://www.npr.org/2014/01/06/260118984/alliance-to-bring-googles-android-operating-system-to-cars

Google partners with Audi, GM, Honda, Hyundai and Nvidia to take Android into cars
http://thenextweb.com/google/2014/01/06/google-partners-audi-gm-honda-hyundai-nvidia-take-android-cars/

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. People will read the paper on their tablets as they "drive" to work.
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 12:34 AM
Jan 2014

Hurray for Otto Pilot, I guess....!

It's legal in CA already....

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
12. Of course but halfassed
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 02:58 PM
Jan 2014

The natural progression was for innovative technology to progess from a luxury for few to widespread acceptance with competing implemetations to finally a standardization of the technology at the infrastructure level and then leading to a public utility.

Eg, electricity was available and very expensive and limited to those who could afford it. Cities then began expanding it, ie, competition between DC and AC, 60 cycle 2-phase, etc. Then the gov't (we, the people) standardized, did the grid, Rural Electrification, etc. Yipee...next step toasters, lighting, etc.

At least that's the way it was before the corporations took over and proceeded to divide the herd.

We are well past the time when cellular should be removed from the private monopolies and made a utility and part of the public domain.

Same, same cable teevee. True ala carte with value added.

WiFi and broadband.

These things should belong to society and be controlled and regulated by society so everybody gets it.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
13. It's all about what the NSA wants. They still intend on putting cameras & microphones in our cars &
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 03:20 PM
Jan 2014
television sets, too.

Big Brother is here.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
14. Wireless In Cars is Mass Suicide and Murder By Stupid and Distracted.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 04:15 PM
Jan 2014

But it passes the costs/benefits test, so it is all good......

 

debunkthis

(99 posts)
17. Yet one more reason not to buy a new GM vehicle
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 04:44 PM
Jan 2014

Right behind OnStar on the list. I, for one, refuse to willingly participate in enabling the NSA to illegally track my everyday movements. It's none of their damn business where I go and what i do with my time!!!

For those who say "but they can track you with your cell phone" my response is "No, they can't". I cancelled my cell service after Mr. Snowden was kind enough to give up a life of relative luxury to warn us of what our government is doing in clear violation of the 4th Amendment, but I digress...

 

CANDO

(2,068 posts)
25. Welcome to the stone ages.
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 12:19 AM
Jan 2014

I suppose you use cash with all economic transactions? If you use any plastic at all, debit/credit, corporations know what brand of toothpaste you prefer. They know what you wipe yourself with, Charmin or Scott Tissues. You cannot hide from progress.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
32. The chip they stuck in you during that last operation is all they need
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 10:43 AM
Jan 2014

You can dig it out with a knife but it's going to hurt like a sonabitch!

Omaha Steve

(99,609 posts)
22. Toyota is starting their service ASAP to compete with OnStar
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 09:49 PM
Jan 2014

Last edited Tue Jan 7, 2014, 02:58 AM - Edit history (1)


Ford's system can be tracked too I am told.

twirlybird

(9 posts)
20. Do we really wan't the NSA monitoring everthing we do and say or where we go?
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 07:39 PM
Jan 2014

Not to mention the ability for some hacker (any 3 letter agency?) taking control of your vehicle and crashing them into trees at high speed....bursting into flames and roasting the occupants!

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
29. Why would I want to pay YET ANOTHER monthly fee?
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 01:41 AM
Jan 2014

When you can accomplish the same stuff simply using a Bluetooth connection with my current cell phone, save the extra charge and not be locked into a particular provider?

Seriously folks, it is the recurring monthly charges that kill everybody's budgets.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
31. Onstar already has phone capability....
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 03:15 AM
Jan 2014

I use mine mainly if I am on the road traveling. It does come in handy. I don't need to use my regular cell phone. I keep a hundred minutes. It will dial on voice command. I also have my cell setup so I can answer using the bluetooth system.

It says nothing about drivers surfing.

"The technology will let drivers make phone calls and allow passengers to surf"

Right now there are certain functions with the radios, sound systems, etc. that cannot be performed in a moving GM car.

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