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OnlinePoker

(5,702 posts)
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 05:30 PM Jan 2014

Nearly Half Of Black Males, 40 Percent Of White Males Are Arrested By Age 23: Study

Source: Huffington Post

A large number of American men have already been arrested by the time they're in their early 20s, according to a new report.

The study, published on Monday in the journal Crime & Delinquency, found that nearly half (49 percent) of African-American men and 40 percent of white men have been arrested by the age of 23, "which can hurt their ability to find work, go to school and participate fully in their communities,"



Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/06/half-of-blacks-arrested-23_n_4549620.html



Absolutely scary numbers when you think about it. How many are for minor offenses like carrying a joint that could effect them for life? Welcome to the PSA...Police States of America.
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Nearly Half Of Black Males, 40 Percent Of White Males Are Arrested By Age 23: Study (Original Post) OnlinePoker Jan 2014 OP
A meatgrinder Turbineguy Jan 2014 #1
i have a hard time believing 40% wilt the stilt Jan 2014 #2
I was arrested three times by the time I was 23. rug Jan 2014 #3
but you only count as one wilt the stilt Jan 2014 #6
I tried. rug Jan 2014 #7
ROFL alcibiades_mystery Jan 2014 #9
Good times! rug Jan 2014 #11
Queens Central Booking Forevah!!! alcibiades_mystery Jan 2014 #12
I was only there for 36 hours. rug Jan 2014 #17
I am two. "Failure to disperse" at 19. There are lots of misdemeanor crimes out there Bacchus4.0 Jan 2014 #13
Think of all the frat boys pissing on sidewalks in sleepy college towns alcibiades_mystery Jan 2014 #16
Probably not true in the nice neighborhoods, but most neighborhoods in valerief Jan 2014 #21
I was arrested at 19 on suspicion of burglary. The grounds for the suspicion IIRC struggle4progress Jan 2014 #22
Not difficult to believe Android3.14 Jan 2014 #26
Then you live in a bubble billhicks76 Jan 2014 #30
no way is that 40% of white men being arrested stat correct. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #4
I believe it, they are talking arrests, not prison time. Arrests for anything Bacchus4.0 Jan 2014 #10
There are around 12 million arrests per year or so. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #14
well, figure you have about 10 years to be one of those statistics until you're 23 Bacchus4.0 Jan 2014 #18
Agreed...I suspect the white male arrests are for lots of misdemeanors and even violations alcibiades_mystery Jan 2014 #15
Probably Bradical79 Jan 2014 #27
Why? Igel Jan 2014 #20
Black men can invoke revolution, so they're put in prison to work valerief Jan 2014 #23
Check! /nt Ash_F Jan 2014 #5
The study's abstract: ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #8
Police State Police State Police State. nt bemildred Jan 2014 #19
I bet revenue generating arrests comprise a majority of the white male arrests. Fastcars Jan 2014 #24
of course if/when we change the drug laws littlewolf Jan 2014 #25
I've had to deal with the cops a few times, justifiably and otherwise, but never actually nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #28
And a revoltingly high number of these young men are sexually assulted as a result. Exultant Democracy Jan 2014 #29
Scary numbers is right - thanks for posting /nt tomm2thumbs Jan 2014 #31
Like rug I had three by age 23, though only two counted in my family:"hitchhiking" didn't count, but FailureToCommunicate Jan 2014 #32
 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
2. i have a hard time believing 40%
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 05:57 PM
Jan 2014

of white men have been arrested. My son is 21 and my daughter is 23 and 4 out of 10 from seems a bit hard to believe.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
3. I was arrested three times by the time I was 23.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 06:17 PM
Jan 2014

Twice in NYC for harassment (of police) and once for hitchhiking (pedestrian on a highway) in Benton Harbor, Michigan.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
17. I was only there for 36 hours.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 06:47 PM
Jan 2014

How did you like the holding pen just outside the courtroom?

Oddly enough, I worked for Legal Aid in Queens some years later. Every time I worked arraignments I talked through those same bars.

Next to crack, the most common cases were assaults in White Castles after 4 am.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
13. I am two. "Failure to disperse" at 19. There are lots of misdemeanor crimes out there
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 06:41 PM
Jan 2014

to be arrested on.

struggle4progress

(118,039 posts)
22. I was arrested at 19 on suspicion of burglary. The grounds for the suspicion IIRC
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 07:23 PM
Jan 2014

were that I was long-haired hippie and was walking rather than driving

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
30. Then you live in a bubble
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 08:46 PM
Jan 2014

I Presume the other 60% bubble. We are so seperated as a society that many don't know how the other half (literally) lives. This will not end well as people can only be pushed so far before they organize and rise up. hopefully we fix our problems before then.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
4. no way is that 40% of white men being arrested stat correct.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 06:19 PM
Jan 2014

No way. The discrepancy is much, much greater.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
10. I believe it, they are talking arrests, not prison time. Arrests for anything
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 06:38 PM
Jan 2014

vagrancy, possession, fighting, disorderly conduct etcetera. Lots of misdemeanors for sure. Drunk driving the list goes on and on even before you reach felony crime. I was arrested at 19 for "failure to disperse" so I am one of those statistics.

And yes, 40% of white men is WAY more than 50% of black men given our demographics.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
14. There are around 12 million arrests per year or so.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 06:42 PM
Jan 2014

So, incidence is around 5 arrests for every 100 adults (if my math is correct). But, then adjust downwards for repeat arrestees . . . I'm suspicious of this kind of survey as opposed to hard stats on actual arrests.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
18. well, figure you have about 10 years to be one of those statistics until you're 23
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 06:49 PM
Jan 2014

a 13 year old to a 23 year old. Chances of you being one of those 5 arrested in any given year are quite a bit greater over a 10 year period. Remember its just arrested, not convicted, not jail time necessarily. Probably 95% minor infractions.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
15. Agreed...I suspect the white male arrests are for lots of misdemeanors and even violations
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 06:43 PM
Jan 2014

I wonder if they counted pseudo-arrests, as when you're transported to a station but given a violation ticket and let go before being booked into jail (no judge or arraignment), like what might happen on a disorderly conduct violation in NYC.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
27. Probably
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 07:45 PM
Jan 2014

Sounds like it was a survey asking men if they'd ever been arrested rather than actual police statistics. Most of my church youth group was taken to a jail once when heading for a friend's house at night for a toilet paper prank. Someone had called the police and reported them as a gang roaming around with beer cans and baseball bats, lol.

Igel

(35,194 posts)
20. Why?
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 07:21 PM
Jan 2014

Because the number of black men with criminal records is greater?

Covered. A difference of 11%, coupled with racism that results in a slightly higher prosecution rate and even higher conviction against black men results in a higher rate of black men with criminal record.

Because more black men are in prison?

Covered. An additional difference that results in longer prison sentences for black men can result in double the # of black men in prison at any given time.

Chuck in minimum sentences and 3-strikes and you've closed the gap more than enough for the difference in witness reports for a variety of crimes to handle the rest.

Arrest =/= prison population.

What's fascinating is the persistent reporting of numbers showing that the various rates for black, Latino, and white women is fairly even at age 18, 20, 23. Pretty much only black men suffer from racism, as far as overall numbers go, which is an interesting observation that still doesn't (to my knowledge) have a convincing story behind it more than 20 years after I first heard it.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
8. The study's abstract:
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 06:31 PM
Jan 2014
In this study, we examine race, sex, and self-reported arrest histories (excluding arrests for minor traffic violations) from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth 1997 (NLSY97; N = 7,335) for the period 1997 through 2008 covering cumulative arrest histories through ages 18 and 23. The analysis produces three key findings: (a) males have higher cumulative prevalence of arrest than females and (b) there are important race differences in the probability of arrest for males but not for females. Assuming that the missing cases are missing at random (MAR), about 30% of Black males have experienced at least one arrest by age 18 (vs. about 22% for White males); by age 23 about 49% of Black males have been arrested (vs. about 38% for White males). Earlier research using the NLSY97 showed that the risk of arrest by age 23 was 30%, with nonresponse bounds [25.3%, 41.4%]. This study indicates that the risk of arrest is not evenly distributed across the population. Future research should focus on the identification and management of collateral risks that often accompany arrest experiences.

Fastcars

(204 posts)
24. I bet revenue generating arrests comprise a majority of the white male arrests.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 07:25 PM
Jan 2014

Public drunk, drunk and disorderly, failure to disperse,......

littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
25. of course if/when we change the drug laws
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 07:33 PM
Jan 2014

that number will change.
also the police will not be able to
take property.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
28. I've had to deal with the cops a few times, justifiably and otherwise, but never actually
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 08:20 PM
Jan 2014

been booked for anything. And BTW I'm a 29-year-old white male.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
29. And a revoltingly high number of these young men are sexually assulted as a result.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 08:25 PM
Jan 2014

Tossed in Jail raped, never able to say anything cause men don't admit things like that... This is a truly terrible statistic and proves just how badly we have failed a generation of young men, less high school, less college, less jobs and less freedom.

FailureToCommunicate

(13,989 posts)
32. Like rug I had three by age 23, though only two counted in my family:"hitchhiking" didn't count, but
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 10:47 PM
Jan 2014

protests did... "Failure to dispurse" at the Pentagon, and "trespassing" at a civil rights demonstration, where I was arrested with a friend who was black, so maybe that would have canceled out. Of course these were all way before the time of this survey.

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