Ohio police: Man stopped for speeding had 48 bombs
Source: USA Today
(AP) A man stopped for speeding in Ohio was charged with illegally making or possessing an explosive device after nearly 50 bombs and four guns were found in his vehicle.
Andrew Scott Boguslawski, 43, was arrested late New Year's Day on Interstate 70 west of Columbus. Investigators found two pistols, two rifles, 48 explosive devices and tools and materials to make additional explosives, according to The (London) Madison Press. Also inside was a remote detonating device, Assistant Madison County Prosecutor Nick Adkins said.
Investigators are trying to determine why the man had the arsenal. He faces a court hearing Friday in Madison County.
According to the state trooper who stopped him for going 85 mph in a 70-mph zone, Boguslawski said he had no weapons. However, the officer returned with a ticket and saw the handle of a gun between the man's knees.
Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/01/07/speeding-man-48-bombs-ohio/4361265/
Where there are bombs, there are gun nuts.
FarPoint
(12,350 posts)This event was about 50 miles from my home....I live near I-70.
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)CFLDem
(2,083 posts)why can't al-Qaeda make one bomb?
And how did this dude get through the omnipresent security state?
The security state plot holes embiggen....
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Drew2510
(70 posts)just smuggle themselves in and buy the stuff once here, apparently not too hard to do.
What we need is cameras, more phone tapping, internet monitoring and state security agents everywhere.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)is working so well. The obvious solution is to give them even more money and power!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)They go through tax dollars like they are water, spy on everyone and violate the 4th amendment, but a nut with 48 bombs isn't caught until he gets pulled over for speeding. Boy, we are sure getting what we paid for in losing our rights and taxpayer dollars, aren't we?
GP6971
(31,141 posts)louis-t
(23,292 posts)or emailed someone about it, but they could have tracked his purchases. A red flag should have come up somewhere.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)Wow.
WhoWoodaKnew
(847 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)is in the business of actual National Security at this point.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)do you think we should not be in the business of spying at all? (unlike every other damn country in the world)
Aerows
(39,961 posts)don't anywhere near justify the money we are wasting and the erosion of civil liberties and public trust. Oh, and you were saying that this guy was in intelligence and I shouldn't go there with this guy. Uh, if they can't even catch a nutjob in their own ranks before he goes crazy, why should you assume they can catch anyone else?
You want to talk about woo.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)cause I am not...
I'm calling that woo!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I would think you could at least come up with an example where we were "kept safe" instead of my 4 examples of how they didn't. Go ahead. I'll wait.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)because I don't support Snowden or this guy does not prove that...
Correlation is not the same as causation or haven't you heard?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)are thrown at them? While I just illustrated 4 incidents when they didn't? Thanks, I thought so. P.S. - Many of us were saying this long before Snowden ever arrived on the scene. If you want to overlook the failures that occurred long before he was around, go ahead, but that just means you are trying to muddy the waters over a personality, not because there are some clear problems at these agencies.
Wonder why someone would want to do that? :taps lip:
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)this is all you got? The best you can do?
Do every country in the world have spy networks? Do THEY find it valuable? Do you think Israel finds theirs valuable for example?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Do we need spy networks? Yes. Do we need FUNCTIONAL spy networks? Even more so. My point is it doesn't look like ours is functional at all, and certainly they aren't justifying all the money that gets thrown at them.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)You have no idea how effective it is at all...I don't like some things they are doing...but I am not the one that wants to throw the proverbial baby out with the bathwater.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and deserves every resource we can give to them.
I'm saying no, apparently it isn't the bestest in the world and we need to find out why, and we need some oversight on what in the hell they are doing with our taxpayer dollars and figure out where the dysfunctional elements are, because clearly there are some problems that need to be addressed.
If you can argue with that, then you are completely disingenuous.
treestar
(82,383 posts)It may be, but who knows. Israel's might be better. Russia - probably pretty good. China, too. Probably mostly technology rather than terrorism.
treestar
(82,383 posts)How do you know it's nonfunctional? Just not knowing about this particular guy would not mean it never functions.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)We must not, ever, discuss intelligence failures because it's unpatriotic, we have no way of knowing, etc., etc.
I doubt there is an argument I haven't heard, yet these nutjobs still get through the cracks despite how wonderful, effective and necessary surveillance is. Uh huh.
treestar
(82,383 posts)They had a FISA warrant. And the would not catch everything.
The metadata would have allowed to find one of the 911 terrorists while still in the US. That is why they wanted it.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)no oversight needed, let's just all stop discussing how there could be improvements in the intelligence community, because heaven forbid we figure out where our tax dollars are being spent and how things could be a lot better.
Mostly, though, let's just stop talking about it, because...we really don't need to talk about it. That seems to be at the heart of every discussion that comes up about intelligence failures. This has been true since back in the Bush days.
We must not talk about it, ever, because it is inviolate, nothing can be done, etc.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts):WTF:
JHB
(37,158 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)but he doesn't exactly look like the poster boy for rational, reasonable and sane.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)Warpy
(111,249 posts)unless he was heading to his survival bunker in the mountains.
I miss the state mental asylums. Yes, the system was pretty awful, especially for women, but it got these loons off the street before they got this bad. Their families were usually the ones to bring them in.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Warpy
(111,249 posts)It sounded like war had been declared all over the state with all the dynamite fishermen out there.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)FSogol
(45,481 posts)JBoy
(8,021 posts)and his car had this bumper sticker, which prompted the officer to ask about weapons in the car:
http://www.madison-press.com/news/home_top-news-police_report/3305901/Man-arrested-with-cache-of-guns-explosives
Boguslawski told the trooper there were no guns in the vehicle. Davis went to write the man a ticket and when he returned to the car, he noticed the handle of a gun between the mans knees.
.....
Boguslawski works in Indiana at a training facility for Navy Seals, Adkins said. The prosecutor said Boguslawski had schematics and other plans for buildings that are part of that training facility. Adkins said the man was driving west toward Indiana at the time of the arrest.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)You would think that the paranoid losers would know better than to draw attention to themselves.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)until he was speeding on the highway and a State Trooper caught it.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)that's how it works...
Aerows
(39,961 posts)The Boston Bombers that we were *warned* about didn't? The underwear bomber that we were *warned* about didn't?
This is two incidents in the past few days where it took NORMAL police to find out that people had bombs. One, they got warned by the family, and lo and behold, paid attention (Maryland). The second, the officer noticed the dude had a gun because of a traffic stop.
Yet with billions of dollars a year, the NSA can't do the job? Sorry, it no longer passes the smell test whatsoever. If you are in the business of catching bomb makers and terrorists and erode our civil liberties and public trust, you damn sure better be responsible for both doing that job and showing results.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)did you see at the end of this thread...where and what this guy does for a living. Sounds to me like you might even be interested in WHY he was going to use bombs...just sayin'
adding...see post #65
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and they can't even police their own, I don't expect they do very damn much to keep the public "safe". As seen by Boston Bombers, etc.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)do cops ever use their "inside information" to do that?
I mean no one ever used their position to do that right?
LMAO!
treestar
(82,383 posts)doesn't pass logical muster.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Skippy McMeth-head was apparently going to a sniper training facility for navy seals?
He knew he had a huge quantity of illegal substances and devices and thought no one would notice him going over 15 mph over the legal limit?
He dressed his car in basically an "ask me about my guns" Tee-shirt.
Ya know, If he has a ninja suit. It has a light bar and siren.
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)Or are you just happy to see me?
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)as the ocean in a category 5 hurricane!
heaven05
(18,124 posts)demented loser looks like. Amerika is full of them. Very sad indeed. geez
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)coming back to the car to hand over the ticket and THEN seeing a gun,after all the news stories about police being killed.
And THEN finding the bombs???? ( I am sure he had back up by that time....one would think)
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I'm sure the police officer breathed a sigh of relief when he had that guy in cuffs.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Also in Ohio, I think. The guy got out of the car and started shooting at the cop car after a traffic stop.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)Incitatus
(5,317 posts)"When transporting illegal explosives, don't break traffic laws."
lastone
(588 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)webmaster, weapons handler, sandwich maker and pastor.
His profile:
What are your ideas for helping others in some way or sharing God's love with others?
forcefeed
Feral Child
(2,086 posts)Can't be, 'cause he's white and Xian.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)figured out a guy had 48 BOMBS and it took a police officer doing a stop for speeding to notice he had a gun, a shitload of bombs and a remote detonation device. We are getting a huge benefit from all those tax dollars going there when it takes a state trooper pulling him over for doing 15mph over the speed limit to detect him.
Say what you like folks, but the NSA is a humongous money drain that does less than a State Trooper. I love how they caught the Boston Bombers, even when our country was warned, the underwear bomber, even when our country was warned and now this idiot who wasn't detected until he was speeding.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)I mean he didn't exactly order bombs over the internet from Acme did he?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)If you were a government agency and were warned 3 times about a potential bomber, would you ignore it if you had all of this security apparatus in place? How about if you were warned again about another incident and it was ignored too?
None of this passes the bullshit test now that we know the extent of the NSA's spying. If they can't even catch terrorists that they are warned about, and we've had two incidents where it was normal law enforcement that caught people building bombs, what in the hell are we wasting all of this money and throwing away our rights for?
If you can answer that, good luck. At this point, it seems completely irrational to keep throwing money at these idiot agencies that are doing nothing but ruining the IT industry, eroding public and global trust yet they can't even DO THE JOB that is the sole justification for their existence.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Your disdain for the entire NSA non-withstanding...sounds like he would fit more with "the hero" Snowden if you ask me.....he seems to have some things in common.
You might want to check that out before you continue down this road on this particular man.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Gun nut outrage.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Nine
(1,741 posts)rocktivity
(44,576 posts)He speeds, get caught in a lie about having weapons, is traveling with bomb materials and schematics, and works with Navy Seals?
rocktivity
struggle4progress
(118,280 posts)it's apparently illegal to speed while carrying dozens of home-made explosive devices!
I hate to have to be the one to say it, but isn't this exactly why the pilgrims left England? Is this exactly what the Civil War was about? Learn your history people!
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Archae
(46,322 posts)Not only looks like a kook, his name sounds like one.
firsttimer
(324 posts)spin
(17,493 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)spin
(17,493 posts)but only roughly five million belong to the NRA.
I would be willing to bet that the NSA has a far better list of gun owners.
JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)... never mind.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)he's 43? He looks 63. Let this be a lesson to you boys and girls, crack kills.
AAO
(3,300 posts)I only possess the one I was born with.
NBachers
(17,107 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)We intercepted a conversation from this guy's smart phone and alerted the proper authorities.
Honest.
Regards,
James Clapper
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)or did he buy legal items and create bombs? Perhaps he stole it all...and never bothered to talk about it on facebook or on his cellphone.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)What the heck.
caraher
(6,278 posts)After all, we know what potential terrorist bombers look like... a non-random yet... interesting... sample:
and now
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)as I have come to understand.
1000words
(7,051 posts)Seriously, how many times do you hear about the discovery of much larger plot or crime simply because the perp had expired tags or in this case, was speeding. This fool is obviously not a criminal mastermind, but strangely, I'm offended by the sheer stupidity.
truthisfreedom
(23,146 posts)Javaman
(62,521 posts)nope, gots to blow shit up now!
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Dumb question.
Botany
(70,501 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,448 posts)where this Boguslawski lived. An Ohio guy or just passing through on I70?
cynzke
(1,254 posts)a member of the Save America Foundation where they posted that letter by Col. Riley calling for revolution starting in DC? Another cache of weapons was found in a home in Maryland.
Blue Diadem
(6,597 posts)Snip:
Lt. Col. Cathy Van Bree, a spokeswoman for the Indiana National Guard, said Boguslawski is a specialist in the guard who does intelligence analysis and has top-secret clearance.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2014/01/07/man-stopped-for-speeding-had-48-bombs.html
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)within their own ranks that has gone batshit crazy. I feel so safe now.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)looks like he is one of "yours"....
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Of did a vigilant State Trooper catch him speeding? See, that's why this whole argument that they keep us "safe" doesn't have a leg to stand on.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)my friend...welcome to him!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)on an agency that is obviously not doing their job? If that "camp" is a problem, you know, the camp called "how about some oversight because obviously there isn't enough", yes, I'm guilty as charged. I was saying this long before Snowden - I was saying this when the Underwear bomber got through. That was LONG before any of these other revelations came forth. And how about 9/11 - do you deny that we were repeatedly warned? That's why I've come to the conclusion that this is all a bunch of security theater designed to siphon off tax dollars.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)looks like they have things in common.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I'm no longer even discussing things that happened when Snowden made his revelations, I'm talking about things before that, and what does this have to do with Snowden anyway, other than you struggling to justify clear problems with our security apparatus?
Snowden has nothing to do with the incidents I cited.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)You are trying to make it about Snowden when it has to do with things that have happened after he's long since been gone from there, and it also has to do with incidents that occurred long before he ever got there.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)that's what I am talking about...
You asked me earlier if I found value in it...and I told you that EVERY country finds value in a spy network. but that has nothing to do with what these two have in common.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)except for the fact that both of them worked in intelligence and obviously, the intelligence community cant even police their own. You want to make this about Snowden when this is really about failures in the intelligence community. GLARING failures, and we need to find out why, not just bury our heads in the sand as say "Oh well, everybody has a spy network and it's okay if ours sucks just as long as we have one."
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)seems to be another "systems analyst" with an axe to grind....THAT in common.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Hmm. Well, I guess everything is just hunky dory in the intelligence community, no need to worry about anything, and don't you feel safe? You keep avoiding that point. Repeatedly.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)I want to live in your world....
Okay not!
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Do you think the Russians never have "double agents" compromise their activity? You think other countries never deal with these "disgruntled employees" in their spy networks?
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)I was driving through Columbus on New Years day and saw a @$# of cops, fire trucks and other emergency vehicles. Did see a real accident, this could very well have been what I saw.
Scary roads man!
riqster
(13,986 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)After looking at the name carefully, I wonder. After all the word gullible does not appear in the dictionary, right?