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jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 08:37 AM Jan 2014

Former Israeli Prime Minister Sharon dead: Army radio

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - Ariel Sharon, the former Israeli general and prime minister who was in a coma for eight years after he had a stroke at the height of his power, died on Saturday aged 85, Israeli Army radio said, quoting a relative of his family.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/11/us-israel-sharon-death-idUSBREA0A09420140111

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Former Israeli Prime Minister Sharon dead: Army radio (Original Post) jakeXT Jan 2014 OP
He's been dead before. Give it 72 hours to be sure. randome Jan 2014 #1
yup riverwalker Jan 2014 #2
Is this an expert opinion? question everything Jan 2014 #9
Massacres of Palestinian refugees Steviehh Jan 2014 #16
i forgot all about that... madrchsod Jan 2014 #4
How sad your life must be question everything Jan 2014 #7
Hitler Steviehh Jan 2014 #17
Sad? Moi? randome Jan 2014 #19
That's what shovels are for!!!!! Theyletmeeatcake2 Jan 2014 #21
He finally stopped practicing and got it right jsr Jan 2014 #3
He has been dead for a while cosmicone Jan 2014 #5
his soul was dead for a long while Whisp Jan 2014 #13
Ariel Sharon's Legacy of Separation Jesus Malverde Jan 2014 #6
Thank you. I don't know why DUers have to express their hatred question everything Jan 2014 #8
They say he suffered the stroke at the height of his political power... Jesus Malverde Jan 2014 #10
Because he was a murderous asshole. ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2014 #11
I recall a great deal of hatred expressed when Ussamah bin Laden died Alamuti Lotus Jan 2014 #14
Bulldozer gone Steviehh Jan 2014 #18
Ariel Sharon (Scheinerman) was known as The Bulldozer: a larger-than-life, blustering figure Jesus Malverde Jan 2014 #12
He was in a coma for a very long time. MADem Jan 2014 #15
Reminds me of the old Generalissimo Francisco Franco jokes on the old SNL. eom. Crunchy Frog Jan 2014 #20
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
1. He's been dead before. Give it 72 hours to be sure.
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 08:52 AM
Jan 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"
[/center][/font][hr]

question everything

(47,470 posts)
9. Is this an expert opinion?
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 01:54 PM
Jan 2014

How sad that you have to carry hate beyond someone's grave.

You know, it is really nice outside.

Steviehh

(115 posts)
16. Massacres of Palestinian refugees
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 08:01 PM
Jan 2014

at Sabra, etc tell a different story.

Israel is now part of the abuser triangle where victim, perpetrayor and rescuer change positions.

Break the Israeli abuse triangle now.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
4. i forgot all about that...
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 09:19 AM
Jan 2014

with all the practice they had i`m pretty sure they got it right this time.


at least we know for sure that...... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalissimo_Francisco_Franco_is_still_dead




or do we ?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
19. Sad? Moi?
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 09:28 PM
Jan 2014

Hardly.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Precision and concision. That's the game.[/center][/font][hr]

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
6. Ariel Sharon's Legacy of Separation
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 01:36 PM
Jan 2014

Few figures could unite Israeli settlers and Palestinians quite like Ariel Sharon.

“God gave him what he deserved,” one right-wing Israeli told me several years after Sharon fell into a coma. “A Jew should not force a Jew from Jewish land,” the man exclaimed, in reference to Sharon’s decision to unilaterally remove Israeli settlements from the Gaza Strip in 2005. For many Arabs, the name “Sharon” is associated with the word “massacre”—specifically with the 1982 Sabra and Shatila massacres, which occurred after Sharon allowed Lebanese Christian militiamen to enter a Palestinian refugee camp in Beirut, where they killed hundreds of Palestinian civilians.

So to some Jewish settlers, Sharon was a traitor; and to some Arabs, he was a butcher. Yet Sharon, who passed away on Saturday at age 85, after an eight-year coma, was also a political architect. More so than to any other contemporary figure in the region, the status quo in Israel and the Palestinian territories can be traced to Ariel Sharon.

Though Sharon helped form the hawkish Likud Party, he was never a right-wing ideologue. Born in 1928, Sharon joined a Labor Zionist youth movement and then the Haganah, the Jewish paramilitary organization that preceded the Israel Defense Forces. On the battlefield, he distinguished himself by playing a key role in the capture of the Sinai Peninsula in 1956, 1967, and 1973. He earned a reputation not only for his skill, pragmatism, and ambition, but also for his tendency toward insubordination and unpredictable behavior.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/01/ariel-sharons-legacy-of-separation/282955/

 

Alamuti Lotus

(3,093 posts)
14. I recall a great deal of hatred expressed when Ussamah bin Laden died
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 03:25 PM
Jan 2014

For many in the world, Sharon--affectionately known as The Bulldozer and the Butcher Of Beirut, by virtue of his deeds--is remembered in much the same way.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
12. Ariel Sharon (Scheinerman) was known as The Bulldozer: a larger-than-life, blustering figure
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 02:17 PM
Jan 2014
Ariel Sharon was known as The Bulldozer: a larger-than-life, blustering figure who came to dominate the domestic political scene as much by his sheer physical presence as by his rhetoric.

To many Israelis, Sharon was a heroic warrior, having led decisive campaigns in the 1967 and 1973 wars.

But to many Palestinians he was The Butcher, who laid siege to Beirut and was responsible for the deaths of at least 800 civilians in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in Lebanon in 1982.

"No-one can lecture me about the need for peace," he once said. "I am the one who was in those battles. Therefore I am the person who can prevent war." And it is true that Sharon had fought in all of Israel's five wars.

Late in his career, Sharon pushed through disengagement from Gaza against strong opposition in Israel and from the party he led.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11574000

MADem

(135,425 posts)
15. He was in a coma for a very long time.
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 03:35 PM
Jan 2014
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/12/world/middleeast/ariel-sharon-fierce-defender-of-a-strong-israel-dies-at-85.html?rref=world&module=ArrowsNav&contentCollection=Middle%20East&action=keypress&region=FixedLeft&pgtype=article

Mr. Sharon was incapacitated eight years ago, in January 2006, and in elections that followed, Kadima still won the most votes. His former deputy, Ehud Olmert, became prime minister. But the impact of Mr. Sharon’s political shift went beyond Kadima. The hawkish Likud Party, led by his rival, Mr. Netanyahu, was returned to power in 2009, and Mr. Netanyahu, too, said then that he favored a Palestinian state alongside Israel.

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