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Dollar Stores Are Getting Too Expensive For Many Americans (Original Post) LiberalElite Jan 2014 OP
People watch their pennies. This 840high Jan 2014 #1
I have been seeing this also at Family Dollar. I saw a family come in today and LiberalArkie Jan 2014 #2
I don't want to throw the BS flag AnalystInParadise Jan 2014 #6
See things as you wish LiberalArkie Jan 2014 #8
Perhaps you should have included that detail in the first place. nt cstanleytech Jan 2014 #9
Exactly AnalystInParadise Jan 2014 #12
This country is in very sad economic shape... democratisphere Jan 2014 #3
+.99 lunasun Jan 2014 #4
The Real Story: bvar22 Jan 2014 #5
It is the calculated and predictable result of Economic Policy. = +~! El_Johns Jan 2014 #13
My Shopping Experiences bucolic_frolic Jan 2014 #7
Flea market, yard sale, thrift store Fumesucker Jan 2014 #10
Love thrift stores. Bought 840high Jan 2014 #11
Interesting thing though, at least where I live; independent thrift stores are going out of El_Johns Jan 2014 #14
another crappy headline from huffington post madrchsod Jan 2014 #15
Some really sad people making comments on that Huffpo article mdbl Jan 2014 #16
"Dollar’s revenue is tied to low-margin sales of necessities like food." riversedge Jan 2014 #17
At first I thought the OP was referring to 'Dollar Tree' stores; greiner3 Jan 2014 #18
I agree that Family Dollar is more expensive Karma13612 Jan 2014 #19
The millionaires in Congress aren't feeling the pinch. Ilsa Jan 2014 #20
Products sold for $1 are most often in smaller packages, so you end up paying as much Myrina Jan 2014 #21

LiberalArkie

(15,713 posts)
2. I have been seeing this also at Family Dollar. I saw a family come in today and
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 09:16 PM
Jan 2014

walk out with 4 cans of tuna. They had to count out change to get it.

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
6. I don't want to throw the BS flag
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 10:08 PM
Jan 2014

but I go to the dollar store to buy things on occasion and I use the change from my ashtray to pay. I am "counting change" when I go there and I am pretty financially stable. I am not discounting that this story is true as you saw it, but there are variables.

LiberalArkie

(15,713 posts)
8. See things as you wish
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 10:41 PM
Jan 2014

But when her SNAP card was declined and she and her husband had to dig through their pockets and had to put a can back. I call that a problem.

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
12. Exactly
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 11:31 PM
Jan 2014

the poster said nothing about a SNAP card, the poster said they were counting change. I count change all the time. I pay Taco Bell in pennies because I don't feel like using my Debit Card. I use nickels at the dollar store, SO it is very logical that I would see someone using change to pay for something and not see desperate poverty at play. I smell embellishment, but I will let this go.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
5. The Real Story:
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 09:56 PM
Jan 2014
65 percent of working families are living from paycheck to paycheck

95 percent of the economy’s gains have gone to the top 1 percent

http://billmoyers.com/2014/01/10/why-conservatives-old-divide-and-conquer-strategy-%E2%80%94-setting-working-class-against-the-poor-%E2%80%94-is-backfiring/

Billionaire wealth doubles since financial crisis
http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/11/12/Billionaire-wealth-doubles-since-financial-crisis/5011384268135/?spt=hts&or=12


This does NOT happen by accident.
It is the calculated and predictable result of Economic Policy.

You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
7. My Shopping Experiences
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 10:12 PM
Jan 2014

I shop in a town that is overpopulated with grocery retailers.

One of Europe's biggest has 2 stores in town.

There are also Walmart and Target.

One or two dollar stores.

A regional grocer, which was among the first in town and is now
struggling.

One of the biggest European owned discounters.

Two deep discount closeout grocers: surplus, recently or soon-to-be
expired items, as well as overstocks. They have all categories, but
selection is varied and thin. Name brand Egg nog was $2 - a gallon.

I don't shop Walmart or Target, but I can say that all of the others have
closeout shelves, areas, baskets, items. Generally these seem to be local
"manager's specials" or at management's discretion, the goal being to
MOVE the goods!

The two deep discount stores do a BRISK business. Prices can be 20% off,
to 50% off, even 75% off on some older items. In the past 18
months they have added more and more items at better and better prices, and
they have hired more employees, which I am very happy to see.

My point being, that as the discount stores sell more, the regular retailers sell less.
The merchandise backs up. Some raise their prices to make up the profit loss. The
biggest has become in my view outrageously priced, except for sale items.

So yes people are squeezed. Big grocers who can't move product must waste a
terrible amount of food. Spoilage being a major cost of doing business. We all pay
for inefficiency. The poorest try to, or must, pay less.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
10. Flea market, yard sale, thrift store
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 11:11 PM
Jan 2014

That's the new dollar store.

Even Craigslist is overpriced these days.

 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
14. Interesting thing though, at least where I live; independent thrift stores are going out of
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 02:34 AM
Jan 2014

business & being replaced by ones connected to semi-corporate concerns (big hospitals, Hospice, etc.)

They're big thrift stores & get big donations because they're "name". Free stuff and nearly-free labor (probably subsidized) is how they undercut locals. Locally thrift stores are no longer really "local" -- they're all connected to big national or regional organizations.

The free labor is of course, volunteer -- but also people on probation, people who are supposedly "training" (though what they do is basically retail-type work & manual labor, it's not like anyone really needs to be "trained" to do it or that doing it will help anyone land anything but a minimum wage job), older people who are out of work & trying to get back into the workforce, etc.

They make minimum wage & work part-time, unbenefited. Some of the work is actually somewhat dangerous (moving furniture, etc). Though I've seen it be helpful in some individual cases, the majority of workers seem to pass through with nothing much happening for them.

I just feel like there's something not quite right about it.



madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
15. another crappy headline from huffington post
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 07:18 AM
Jan 2014

if the dollar stores are losing customers it is because things are getting better not worse. the store i go to has customers who range from upper middle class to food stamp people. when i drive up and there`s over a hundred thousand dollars worth of cars in the lot parked next to junkers i`d say, at least in my neighborhood, people shop for convenience and price.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
16. Some really sad people making comments on that Huffpo article
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 09:11 AM
Jan 2014

Like the A-hole that said this:


Give a "working family" a fish you'll feed them for the day, Teach them to fish, thus decreasing their need for government hand-outs, and you'll feed them for a lifetime. That's when democrats will INCREASE the cost of a fishing license.


The dumb-a$$ forgot to mention that the fish were contaminated by the republicans making the license unnecessary. Oh, sorry, I'm not supposed to be name calling. We are all supposed to be nice and civilized and discuss things logically with deranged people.

riversedge

(70,189 posts)
17. "Dollar’s revenue is tied to low-margin sales of necessities like food."
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 09:48 AM
Jan 2014

Interesting to say the least--and sad. Not any fresh fruit or veggies at the Dollar store. And yet, I shop there for cat supplies, bathroom supplies, but not food--


....Economists argue that things like food stamps and unemployment act as crucial bits of stimulus when the economy is weak. Cutting them can act as a headwind to growth. That’s certainly the case for low-end retailers such as Family Dollar. The store chain’s shares fell sharply this week after it reported disappointing earnings. Family Dollar CEO Howard Levine had this to say on the subject:

For the last several quarters, we’ve discussed the economic challenges our customers are facing. Over the last two years, I think we’ve seen a growing bifurcation in households. Higher-income households who have benefited from market gains, better employment opportunities, or improvements in the housing markets have become more comfortable and confident in their financial situation. But our core lower-income customers have faced high unemployment levels, higher payroll taxes, and more recently reductions in government-assistance programs. All of these factors have resulted in incremental financial pressure and reduction in overall spend in the market.

Translation? As poor Americans come under more and more pressure, more and more of Family Dollar’s revenue is tied to low-margin sales of necessities like food. (Sales were strongest during the first fiscal quarter in Family Dollar’s “consumables” category, especially in areas like frozen food.)

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
18. At first I thought the OP was referring to 'Dollar Tree' stores;
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 10:22 AM
Jan 2014

But after reading I too agree Family Dollar is too expensive as I've priced a many items in their store and found they charge maybe 5-10% more than say Kmart and are about the same as CVS, etc...

FD needs to charge up so they can claim they price most everything as their ads proclaim, to the 'dollar'.

I'd say the about the only thing they don't round up is their pay as 'minimum wage' is the rule and a big reason for the 'grumpiness' of their employees.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
19. I agree that Family Dollar is more expensive
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 10:34 AM
Jan 2014

for some stuff than if you went to WalMart, etc.

I have one near work that I rely on for quick emergency stuff but do not shop at regularly.

They are located within walking/scooter distance of a low-income housing project and they have a very thriving business. In fact, they expanded and renovated in late 2013. So, with the economy bad, they are doing just fine! I feel really bad for the bulk of people who rely on them because they don't have transport to get themselves to more economical choices like WalMart and Aldi's.

They are great, have a massive selection, but are no better than an overgrown price-gouging 'convenience store', like at the gas station.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
20. The millionaires in Congress aren't feeling the pinch.
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 11:35 AM
Jan 2014

They don't care and are unwilling to reverse legislation of corporate welfare when the "job creators" aren't doing what they claim to do.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
21. Products sold for $1 are most often in smaller packages, so you end up paying as much
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 12:09 PM
Jan 2014

... as you would of the 'normally priced' brand-label stuff, in the end, especially for things like laundry detergent, soda, dry goods.

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