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Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 11:36 AM Jan 2014

Putin Says Gay People At Olympics Must Leave The Children Alone

Source: Associated Press

Russian President Vladimir Putin says gays should feel welcome at the upcoming Winter Olympic Games in Sochi, but they must "leave the children in peace."

Putin told volunteers Friday that gays visiting Sochi "can feel calm and at ease," and vowed that there would be no discrimination at the games. But he emphasized that, according to a law banning homosexual "propaganda" among minors, gays cannot express their views on gay rights issues to anyone underage.

Putin and other politicians have defended the June propaganda law as a protection of child rights, but critics believe that the law discriminates against sexual minorities.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/putin_gays_leave_children_alone



Putin should be worrying about the captain of the Canadian men's curling team.



He does throw a good stone though.
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Putin Says Gay People At Olympics Must Leave The Children Alone (Original Post) Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 OP
dictator, repulsive bigot, what's not to like? nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #1
this from the former head of the service that send people to the gulag big_dog Jan 2014 #25
Hey Putie-Pute......homosexuality cannot be confused with pedophilia..... Swede Atlanta Jan 2014 #2
I never thought I could hate this man more. Wait Wut Jan 2014 #3
Wow - bad headline. Ms. Toad Jan 2014 #4
That's the headline in pretty much every news story Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #8
I suspect it was sent out with a headline by the original source - Ms. Toad Jan 2014 #21
Thank you for that impassioned defense of that bigot, but that's exactly what he was doing-- geek tragedy Jan 2014 #11
Try reading more carefully. Ms. Toad Jan 2014 #17
he said "leave the children in peace" geek tragedy Jan 2014 #18
re:Putin Says Gay People At Olympics Must Leave The Children Alone allan01 Jan 2014 #5
And your reaction proves the point I just made Ms. Toad Jan 2014 #6
the only point you've proven is that your willingness to geek tragedy Jan 2014 #12
I am making not excuses. Ms. Toad Jan 2014 #15
When he said "leave the children in peace" he was playing up the "homosexual as child predator" geek tragedy Jan 2014 #16
That phrase calls up a different image Ms. Toad Jan 2014 #19
lol, "leave the children in peace" is soooo different than "leave the children alone" nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #20
He couldve just as easily said "Obey all the laws". HE decided what to say. 7962 Jan 2014 #24
Bingo! davidpdx Jan 2014 #26
and is he instructing the religious whack jobs to "leave the children in peace" as well? or are niyad Jan 2014 #7
Hey Putie...how about you the World alone?! SoapBox Jan 2014 #9
One of the dumbest things I have ever seen...since George W. Bush Stuart G Jan 2014 #10
Small wonder conservtives have hardons over him. Rozlee Jan 2014 #13
I didn't know Catholic priests were competing. nt valerief Jan 2014 #14
Stupid FuckTard BigDemVoter Jan 2014 #22
eShirl says Pootie must step away from the crack pipe eShirl Jan 2014 #23
Putin davidpdx Jan 2014 #27
Man, I feel sorry for good hearted Russians who have to put up with such an ignorant leader. zonkers Jan 2014 #28
Don't worry Putin. All the Gays want is man like you gerogie2 Jan 2014 #29
his profile is exactly like the Emperor Augustus's... MisterP Jan 2014 #30
DU Says Russian Government Must Leave The Gays Alone n/t pampango Jan 2014 #31
 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
25. this from the former head of the service that send people to the gulag
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 04:24 PM
Jan 2014

pootie-poots has a pr nightmare on his hands

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
2. Hey Putie-Pute......homosexuality cannot be confused with pedophilia.....
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 11:48 AM
Jan 2014

Pedophiles are much more likely to be heterosexual than homosexual and perpetrated on young girls much more than on young boys.

Yes there are pedophiles in the LGBT community and I find them disgusting. I have no more compassion or tolerance for them than I do heterosexual pedophiles. Pedophilia is pedophilia.

There is no, repeat no, evidence that homosexuals are more likely to pursue children and engage in pedophilia than heterosexuals.

As a gay man I am not attracted to children. I am attracted to other adult men, period. I might be able to appreciate a young man for his handsomeness, etc. but that does not rise the level of having any sexual interest. That is the same as an adult male saying to a young girl, "you are very pretty" but not with any interest or intention beyond that.

It seems the Russians share the view of some real nut cases around the world that say....homosexuals cannot reproduce so they must recruit. What kind of bullshit is that?

Homosexuals don't need to recruit among heterosexual children or heterosexual adults because heterosexual adults produce homosexual children. Whether you believe it to be 3%, 5% or 10%, a certain percentage of individuals are born with an inherent attraction to members of their own gender and some are born attracted to both genders. Let's just accept 5% as the number. You have 5% of the population that self-identifies as homosexual seeking the other 5% that self-identify as homosexuals. There is no need to recruit.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
3. I never thought I could hate this man more.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 11:53 AM
Jan 2014

I was wrong. Every time he opens his fucking mouth, a little dark evil place in me wants him attacked by a horde of angry barbarians. I'm not advocating violence, just daydreaming. Hell, they don't even have to touch the little prick. Just watching him cower in fear, bawling like a child, would be satisfaction enough.

Fucking scum.

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
4. Wow - bad headline.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:13 PM
Jan 2014

Leave the children alone (the article headline) does not reflect what the article says.

The very brief article is about speech, not action. "Leave the children alone" implies he was feeding into the stereotype of gay (men, mostly) as pedophile.

Insisting that no one express their views on gay rights is wrong, but using a headline which deliberately calls to mind ugly stereotypes is also wrong, especially in this sound byte era where many people don't read past the headline.

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
21. I suspect it was sent out with a headline by the original source -
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:51 PM
Jan 2014

and copied everywhere. Another reason I have an issue with it - the propogation, once it is uttered.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
11. Thank you for that impassioned defense of that bigot, but that's exactly what he was doing--
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:28 PM
Jan 2014

feeding into the stereotype of homosexuals as a threat to children.

Sorry if the fact that Vladimir Putin is a virulent gay-hating puke-tastic bigot is inconvenient.

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
17. Try reading more carefully.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:48 PM
Jan 2014

Nothing I said defended the bigot.

My comment was directed at responsible journalism. Headlines ought to accurately reflect the article. I expected to click on the article and read comments he had made about the pedophile stereotype the headline deliberately calls up. The article did not contain those comments. It was addressed to prohibiting a discussion of gay rights with underage individuals.

There is a difference between buying into that stereotype (which I have no doubt Putin does) and writing a headline which implies that at the event being reported on Putin warned gays about acting on that stereotype, when he didn't at that event (or, at least if he did, that is not the content the reporter chose to include).

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
18. he said "leave the children in peace"
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:50 PM
Jan 2014

that's what he said.

when he says 'gay people must leave the children in peace' the message is loud and clear for anyone not stuffing cotton in their ears.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
5. re:Putin Says Gay People At Olympics Must Leave The Children Alone
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:13 PM
Jan 2014

when are these people going to learn that most of the sexual assults on children are done by straight men and or women according to my police friends ? so so tone age .

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. the only point you've proven is that your willingness to
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:29 PM
Jan 2014

make excuses for a homophobic bigot.

Putin's comments, and the entire point of that vile, bigoted piece of shit law is to portray GLBT people as a threat to children.

Thanks for playing.

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
15. I am making not excuses.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:41 PM
Jan 2014

What I am pointing out is that headlines need to accurately reflect the content of the article.

The content of the article was about recent Putin comments which were directed to speech; the headline deliberately called up a different ugly stereotype for the purposes of creating an inflammatory response.

I would have absolutely no issue with an editorial or other opinion piece trashing Putin as buying into that stereotype - it is clear from other events and statements that he does.

What I have a problem with is using a headline on a news article which does not accurately represent the content of the event reported on. I have a problem with it precisely because it was designed to do exactly what it did. At least two people in this thread alone reacted to the headline as if the headline was the news item, rather than the content of the article.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
16. When he said "leave the children in peace" he was playing up the "homosexual as child predator"
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:47 PM
Jan 2014

libel.

That's the entire point of that 'speech' law.

The 'speech' law is not about speech, it's about homosexuality in general.

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
19. That phrase calls up a different image
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:50 PM
Jan 2014

than warning gays to leave the children alone, particularly when read with "gays cannot express their views on gay rights issues to anyone underage."

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
24. He couldve just as easily said "Obey all the laws". HE decided what to say.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 04:15 PM
Jan 2014

And he means it. He didnt have to say anything about children

niyad

(112,434 posts)
7. and is he instructing the religious whack jobs to "leave the children in peace" as well? or are
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:18 PM
Jan 2014

they free to "recruit" to their dark little hearts' content?

Stuart G

(38,359 posts)
10. One of the dumbest things I have ever seen...since George W. Bush
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:25 PM
Jan 2014

I thought Putin had half a brain..guess not.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
13. Small wonder conservtives have hardons over him.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:34 PM
Jan 2014

I expect their dream ticket will read Putin/Cruz 2016.

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
22. Stupid FuckTard
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 01:35 PM
Jan 2014

He should tell the heterosexual pedophiles to leave the little GIRLS alone, as THAT is much more common than the other way around. . . .

 

gerogie2

(450 posts)
29. Don't worry Putin. All the Gays want is man like you
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 01:47 AM
Jan 2014

Doesn't he look sexy without his shirt on? I bet he knows some kinky positions being an ex-KGB officer and all!

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