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Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 03:39 PM Jan 2014

Insurance companies sue to get out of paying to defend Utah polygamous towns

Source: Salt Lake Tribune

A pair of insurance companies are suing to get out of covering two predominantly polygamous towns accused of operating as arms of the FLDS Church.

St. Paul Guardian Insurance Company and The Travelers Indemnity Company filed their lawsuit against Colorado City, Ariz., and Hildale, Utah, in December. The lawsuit was prompted by a Department of Justice case that accuses the twin towns on the Arizona border of policing and housing discrimination.

Filings in the DOJ case allege that town officials, including the local police, took orders from leaders of The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

In court documents, the insurance companies argue that their coverage does not include defending the towns in the DOJ case. Colorado City disagrees, according to court documents, arguing that the companies’ contracts mean they do have to pay up so the towns can defend themselves in the DOJ case.



Read more: http://m.sltrib.com/sltrib/mobile3/57427178-219/case-towns-companies-insurance.html.csp

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Insurance companies sue to get out of paying to defend Utah polygamous towns (Original Post) Redfairen Jan 2014 OP
Interesting because, this can't be the first time an insurance company Todays_Illusion Jan 2014 #1
Non mobile URL that auto redirects on iPads, Androids, etc. alp227 Jan 2014 #2
I can't get past "A pair... are suing" from a nationally known newspaper. displacedtexan Jan 2014 #3
Interesting side note on polygamy frazzled Jan 2014 #4
that was about the time all the mormons went to Mexico (including Mitt Romeny's grandparents okaawhatever Jan 2014 #6
thanks for the explanation frazzled Jan 2014 #7
For once, the insurance companies are on the moral side of a dispute. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #5
There are different sects of FLDS churches. ZombieHorde Jan 2014 #8
are you sure you're not thinking of LDS? geek tragedy Jan 2014 #9
There are several FLDS churches. ZombieHorde Jan 2014 #10

Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
1. Interesting because, this can't be the first time an insurance company
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 03:48 PM
Jan 2014

selling liability insurance has been asked to defend against illegal acts.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
3. I can't get past "A pair... are suing" from a nationally known newspaper.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 04:21 PM
Jan 2014

Isn't Colorado City the compound (masquerading as a town) shown in that new TV show about rescuing women from the fundamentalist LDS cult? If it is, it's no wonder that the insurance company is balking: the potential evidence is broadcast weekly.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
4. Interesting side note on polygamy
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 04:31 PM
Jan 2014

Our daughter has been researching a lot of genealogical stuff from our families, and just recently sent my husband a document she found about his father (who died in the late 1960s). It was a naturalization document from the US Department of Labor from 1924 (his father had emigrated from Wales as a young child and was apparently now applying for citizenship as an adult).

At any rate, after filling out the lines regarding date and place of birth and physical description, the applicant (or whoever was completing the form—I don't know from the handwriting) had to fill in the following:

It is my bona fide intention to renounce forever all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, and particularly to (he filled in "George V, King of Great Britain & Ireland&quot , of whom I now am a subject. I arrived at the port of ("New York&quot , in the state of ("New York&quot , on or about the ("7&quot day of ("August&quot , anno Domini ("1907&quot ; I am not an anarchist; I am not a polygamist nor a believer in the practice of polygamy; and it is my intention in good faith to become a citizen of the United States of America and to permanently reside therein: SO HELP ME GOD.


I was really surprised to see that bit about polygamy. Given the anarchist incidents that had occurred in that era and earlier, I wasn't so surprised to see the requirement to renounce anarchism; but I was surprised that polygamy was something being watched so closely.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
6. that was about the time all the mormons went to Mexico (including Mitt Romeny's grandparents
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 02:41 PM
Jan 2014

and I'm pretty sure his father). Later, during the Mexican war the US allowed them to come back, even giving some of them money and later paid reparations. Polygamy was very much a national issue before and around that time.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
7. thanks for the explanation
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 03:45 PM
Jan 2014

yes, of course, that would be the time frame, and explains the specificity of the renunciation.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. For once, the insurance companies are on the moral side of a dispute.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 12:40 PM
Jan 2014

When the other side is a vile, child-rape cult, not so difficult I guess.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
8. There are different sects of FLDS churches.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 04:08 PM
Jan 2014

I had to learn about them in my alternative religion class I took years ago. Some live among us and value education for both the men and the women. I am not sure if the church in this lawsuit is one of the less dangerous ones or not.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. are you sure you're not thinking of LDS?
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 04:11 PM
Jan 2014

FLDS is the Warren Jeffs show. There have been a few splinter groups, but it's largely a top-down monolithic child rape cult.

Colorado City is run by Warren Jeffs and his cronies, to this day.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
10. There are several FLDS churches.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 08:19 PM
Jan 2014

Warren Jeffs' is just one of them. Montana has one which has taken over a whole town. There is another one that blends in very easily within mainstream society, and is larger than Jeffs' version. They all call themselves FLDS to differentiate themselves from the LDS church which has gone against Joseph Smith's teachings, in their opinion, when they turned their backs on polygamy.

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