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micraphone

(334 posts)
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 03:48 AM Jan 2014

Polar vortex driving record freeze

Source: Stuff.co.nz

A persistent weather pattern driving bitterly cold air south out of the Arctic will cause temperatures from Minnesota to Kentucky to plummet, turning this winter into one of the coldest on record in some areas.

In cities where temperatures reached 4-10 degrees Celsius at the weekend, people will wake up Monday (local time) to temperatures ranging from -10C to -20C. And with the wind chill, cities throughout the Midwest will feel far colder than the -20C that Hudson said was expected in Barrow, Alaska, the northernmost US city.

The weather service said city after city would face wind chills well below -20C: -41.5C in Minneapolis, -25.5C in Kansas City, -23 .5C in St. Louis, and -19.5C in Louisville.

In the Chicago area, residents were bracing for a historic deep freeze. Monday's high was expected to be -20C and drop as low as -27C downtown, with wind chills as low as -40C).

Read more: http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/9655455/Polar-vortex-driving-record-freeze



Another hit to climate change deniers.
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Polar vortex driving record freeze (Original Post) micraphone Jan 2014 OP
And in LA we saw the most rain we have seen in a while: a few drops on our car windshield. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #1
I was out PasadenaTrudy Jan 2014 #16
Sorry to hear for all those suffering the cold... tofuandbeer Jan 2014 #2
General suckiness all around. byronius Jan 2014 #3
I'm Polar Vortex out in Michigan LovingA2andMI Jan 2014 #4
Its the jet stream doing the driving dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #5
Yep, and apparently scientists are trying to understand the extra waviness of it BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #7
It was the extra waviness dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #8
and it's all related to the strength of the polar high pressure system BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #10
84 have hit NY State since the 1700's dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #11
I understand, and no thing has one cause only, but it wasn't just that Sandy hit - it's the turn BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #14
I think it's now undertood that the warming arctic is doing it. NutmegYankee Jan 2014 #12
That was my understanding as well BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #13
went from 29 in chicago to 3 in a few hours. pansypoo53219 Jan 2014 #6
I just saw a woman complain that it was impossible to drive with her knees and do her make-up jakeXT Jan 2014 #9
Up here in Northern Maine... davidthegnome Jan 2014 #15
This up and down weather is just wearing me out. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2014 #17
There is a reason that every year the country's population center shifts to the south and west. former9thward Jan 2014 #18
Pretty well defined on the GOES image from NOAA... adirondacker Jan 2014 #19

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
1. And in LA we saw the most rain we have seen in a while: a few drops on our car windshield.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 04:19 AM
Jan 2014

But again a beautiful sunny day. We are lucky not to be in the cold, but it would be nice to have some rain. Our trees are suffering.

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)
16. I was out
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 11:39 AM
Jan 2014

walking when it started to sprinkle. At first I thought a bird shat on my head! Not used to rain anymore.

tofuandbeer

(1,314 posts)
2. Sorry to hear for all those suffering the cold...
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 04:28 AM
Jan 2014

we need some of that vortex down here in Southern California.

byronius

(7,391 posts)
3. General suckiness all around.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 04:50 AM
Jan 2014

Bleah. Damn it.

Let's sacrifice someone, see if the sky fairies approve. I got a list.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
4. I'm Polar Vortex out in Michigan
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 05:02 AM
Jan 2014

And that Groundhog better predict six more weeks of Winter within the next week or else....

BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
7. Yep, and apparently scientists are trying to understand the extra waviness of it
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 06:31 AM
Jan 2014

that has been observed in recent years, but they haven't constructed a good explanation yet.
That's per Thom Hartmann, by the way (the scientists bit - the waviness is well-documented).

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
8. It was the extra waviness
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 06:39 AM
Jan 2014

which caused the floods in Pakistan 2010 and the heatwave in Russia the same year. Also caused the worst winter since 1963 in the UK whereas this year we've got the 7th warmest on record.

Shit happens.

BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
10. and it's all related to the strength of the polar high pressure system
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 06:41 AM
Jan 2014

which was behind the weird turn hurricane Sandy took ("a tropospheric ridge of unusual high pressure&quot .

BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
14. I understand, and no thing has one cause only, but it wasn't just that Sandy hit - it's the turn
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 07:31 AM
Jan 2014

the storm made. Like I said, linked to unusal northern tropospheric pressure.

But interpreting weather events in terms of climate change is a weird odds game, so what do I know

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
12. I think it's now undertood that the warming arctic is doing it.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 07:23 AM
Jan 2014

The temperature differential between equator and pole drives the jet stream, but with arctic warming that forcing has gotten weak. So now the jet stream meanders much like a gently flowing river.

BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
13. That was my understanding as well
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 07:28 AM
Jan 2014

There was a bit of a question of "where is the heat going" in the climate sciences. And then we found part of the answer is the deep sea, and the arctic region especially. Which then becomes warmer, evaporates more and creates a stronger high pressure system. The link between temp diff, the jet stream and its meandering I hadn't seen. Brilliant description, "meandering".

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
15. Up here in Northern Maine...
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 11:38 AM
Jan 2014

We're used to freezing temperatures in the winter, we're also used to lots of snow. This year though, and the last... I can't remember a colder winter up here - and I've lived in Maine almost my whole life. The last several years we've had much less snow than is usual for us, which is driving down our already struggling economy even further - because we rely heavily on snow mobilers. We're getting more snow now, towards the end of January... but the road conditions, the ice, the freezing cold weather and wind... no one wants to go anywhere or do anything.

I had a co-worker tell me last night that she actually broke down and cried - there were several inches of snow on her car, it was more than ten below with freezing, strong gusts of wind, and she dropped something important in the snow and had to search for it.

The cost of heating fuel keeps going up, the Governor has cut the budget for snow removal - and heating assistance is really, really hard to get.

I worry for those who can't afford to heat their homes up here this winter - and I have no idea how the heck they're getting by. Lots of clothes and blankets, maybe, but on some nights, it's so cold it hurts to breath.

It's enough to make me cry, too.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,864 posts)
17. This up and down weather is just wearing me out.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 11:52 AM
Jan 2014

Yesterday it was 60 here in KC. Then about 6 last night the wind started. We had probably a 50 mph wind out of the north. Temps dropped like a stone. Today it's 10.

It's so hard to adjust to those extremes. I know that it affects how I feel and also how I think. It's kind of like my brain freezes up on me.

former9thward

(31,940 posts)
18. There is a reason that every year the country's population center shifts to the south and west.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 01:00 PM
Jan 2014

Young people are no longer putting up with living in lousy weather their whole lives. They are moving out of the old Northeast and Midwest.

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