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Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 11:53 AM Mar 2014

National Council of La Raza leader calls Barack Obama ‘deporter-in-chief’

Source: Politico

President Barack Obama has lost the nation’s largest Latino advocacy organization.

The National Council of La Raza is set to declare Obama “the deporter-in-chief” and demand that he take unilateral action to stop deportations.

NCLR, the nation’s largest Latino advocacy organization, had been the last significant progressive grass-roots immigration-reform organization publicly defending the White House immigration stance. NCLR President Janet Murguía will on Tuesday night demand Obama put a halt to his administration’s deportations.

“For the president, I think his legacy is at stake here,” Murguía said in an interview in advance of NCLR’s annual Capital Awards dinner, where she will deliver a speech lambasting Obama’s deportation policy. “We consider him the deportation president, or the deporter-in-chief.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/national-council-of-la-raza-janet-murguia-barack-obama-deporter-in-chief-immigration-104217.html



The President's job is to execute the laws which are passed by Congress. If you don't like the laws, elect a Congress which will change those laws.
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National Council of La Raza leader calls Barack Obama ‘deporter-in-chief’ (Original Post) Freddie Stubbs Mar 2014 OP
Ouch! Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #1
Uh huh, Politico again Iliyah Mar 2014 #2
The Obama administration has deported far more people than any other. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #3
Well said, Comrade Grumpy. n/t pampango Mar 2014 #15
Came here to hurf blurf about the homeschool germans... AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #4
So they want a dictator? EC Mar 2014 #5
You hear that undocumented workers?! ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2014 #6
Wow, Really? EC Mar 2014 #8
The Justice Department has already proved that they have leeway and wiggle room. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2014 #11
It's necessary to look at subcategories to understand exactly what's happening struggle4progress Mar 2014 #7
Exactly. These were all valid removals seveneyes Mar 2014 #16
huh? struggle4progress Mar 2014 #17
Bu...bu...but ... this makes no sense ... my right-wing friends all tell me ... brett_jv Mar 2014 #9
Oh here we go bluestateguy Mar 2014 #10
"Crybaby interest groups" ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2014 #12
La Raza isn't "the Hispanic vote" bluestateguy Mar 2014 #14
like racist obstructionist rethugs are a zero factor nt UTUSN Mar 2014 #13

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. Uh huh, Politico again
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:12 PM
Mar 2014

enough said. And that's correct, Pres O Adm. have deported more than previous adms. which laws were passed by congress. And I have to agree, vote in members of congress and change the damn laws matter of fact, how about immigration reform huh?

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
3. The Obama administration has deported far more people than any other.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:40 PM
Mar 2014

And it could take executive (in)action to reduce that number.

This is a cruel, heartless policy that is mainly a sop to Republican xenophobes.

From the article:

By April, Obama will have overseen more than 2 million deportations, activists say, far more than any previous president. Obama has insisted — including when he was interrupted by a protester — that Congress has tied his hands and he cannot reduce the number of people being deported unilaterally. Latino groups are planning a series of mass demonstrations April 5 to protest the deportations and force lawmakers to choose between criticizing Obama or facing a populist wrath.

Murguía said NCLR has been privately urging the White House for months to do something about deportations — which will soon number 2 million since Obama took office. The group was also using its megaphone to blame Congress and not Obama for the deportations. Just three weeks ago, NCLR called for an end “to unnecessary deportations” and asked supporters to “ask Republican leadership to take a stand for family values and pass immigration reform.”

Now that focus is being directed at the White House.

“We respectfully disagree with the president on his ability to stop unnecessary deportations,” Murguía will say during a Tuesday night speech to NCLR’s annual Capital Awards dinner, according to prepared remarks. “He can stop tearing families apart. He can stop throwing communities and businesses into chaos. He can stop turning a blind eye to the harm being done. He does have the power to stop this. Failure to act will be a shameful legacy for his presidency.”

EC

(12,287 posts)
5. So they want a dictator?
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:14 PM
Mar 2014

I'm sure they'll be happy with Republican control then? Republicans would ship them all out if they could.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,846 posts)
6. You hear that undocumented workers?!
Reply to EC (Reply #5)
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:22 PM
Mar 2014

Take what you're given and be happy with it. We may suck, but were better than republicans, so shut the fuck up.

Signed,
Maintainers of the status quo.

EC

(12,287 posts)
8. Wow, Really?
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:52 PM
Mar 2014

What is it you'd like President Obama to do? He personally isn't the one deporting people. He's begged Congress to get immigration done and even said he'd take it piecemeal, just do it. But of course he can just snap his fingers and make it so, huh? He can't cover everything with executive orders and he has to go by what his legal team tells him he can do.

No one is telling them to just accept and shut the fuck up, but they know he can't do anything else without congress, so they are being unreasonable.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,846 posts)
11. The Justice Department has already proved that they have leeway and wiggle room.
Reply to EC (Reply #8)
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 04:00 PM
Mar 2014

We have seen it with marijuana and have seen it with immigration. The left cheered on Obama for reorganizing the way deportations happen, the left cheered on the decision to not go after dispensaries in states where medical marijuana is legal. Obviously he cannot change the law by himself, we know this. But methods and strategies for enforcement can be adjusted.

struggle4progress

(118,041 posts)
7. It's necessary to look at subcategories to understand exactly what's happening
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:50 PM
Mar 2014
In FY 2013:

* ICE conducted a total of 368,644 removals.
* ICE conducted 133,551 removals of individuals apprehended in the interior of the U.S.
* 82 percent of all interior removals had been previously convicted of a crime.
* ICE conducted 235,093 removals of individuals apprehended along our borders while attempting to unlawfully enter the U.S. ...
* Of the 151,834 removals of individuals without a criminal conviction, 84 percent, or 128,398, were apprehended at the border while attempting to unlawfully enter the U.S. ...


FY 2013 ICE Immigration Removals


So, overall, 94% of the deportations are either people with a criminal record or people apprehended near a border after illegally entering the US

Border removals appear to account for much of the increase in recent years




 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
16. Exactly. These were all valid removals
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 04:09 PM
Mar 2014

Why these groups would want anything else is beyond comprehension.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
9. Bu...bu...but ... this makes no sense ... my right-wing friends all tell me ...
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:02 PM
Mar 2014

This makes no sense ... my right-wing friends all tell me that Obama's thrown the doors of the US wide open because all the illegal immigrants vote Demoncrat and this is the only way they can win elections!!!!11!1!

Don't tell me ... gasp ... they're all full of shit?!?

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
10. Oh here we go
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:25 PM
Mar 2014

The president has the responsibility to enforce the laws on the books, including those he does not agree with.

Meanwhile, the president can press Congress and the people to change the law. If Congress won't budge, then take it up with them.

This is something that crybaby interest groups (and some folks on DU) have never been able to understand.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,846 posts)
12. "Crybaby interest groups"
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 04:04 PM
Mar 2014

Keep taking that Hispanic vote for granted!


As for the rest of your post, I addressed a similar point above. If you don't think the Justice Department has leeway in how they enforce the law you're completely ignorant to how things work.

Case in point: CHOOSING to not go after medical marijuana dispensaries in states where its legal. The Justice Department has always been able to prioritize certain things.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
14. La Raza isn't "the Hispanic vote"
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:36 PM
Mar 2014

They are an outside group, staffed by professional activists that purports to speak for Latinos. Some Latinos support them, others do not, or have never even heard of them.

They don't speak for Latinos anymore than the NRA claims to speak for all gun owners.

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